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BulldogMomma
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posted 02-11-2004 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BulldogMomma     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all,
I have just started my research on Invisible Fencing for our English Bulldog. She is 11 months old now and I can't take her outside unless she is on the leash or she will take off with the neighbors dogs who are out all the time and run the neighborhood.
I would like to know if any of you have it for your pets, how do you like it, what experiences have you had with it...good or bad? We have an enormous yard, but I still think it is an excellent idea to purchase this for our dogs safety and well being. Too bad we can't get an invisible fence to keep the neighbors dogs out! lol I think their master trains them to poop in our yard. j/k Any replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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elizavixen
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posted 02-11-2004 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elizavixen     Edit/Delete Message
My parents had this for their dog, an Irish setter. It did not work for him at all. He was one of those dogs who was determined to get out. Anyways, he figured out that all he had to do was run through it and get a little shock but I guess he decided it was worth it. However, when he would come back home he would just wait outside the fence so he didn't get shocked again.

I think in deciding if it is something you should buy depends on your situation. Whether your dog is a determined escaper or not. Do you live in the city or in the country. etc.

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Jas

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posted 02-11-2004 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
i have a puppy family who uses this fencing with success, however like you mentioned, their biggest complaint is that it doesn't keep other animals out. They still have visitors - deer, cats and other dogs! Success depends on the individual dog. a dog with a high prey drive may still go through, and be afraid to return for fear of getting zapped going in....

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Jamiya
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posted 02-12-2004 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
I think I would be more inclined to put up a real fence, personally. How about a nice wooden privacy fence?


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BulldogMomma
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posted 02-12-2004 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BulldogMomma     Edit/Delete Message
Our yard is huge. And we live in a sub-division of 70 homes and fences in the front yard are not allowed.
I did consider a privacy or even chain link fence on the sides and rear, but dear husband says no way. Plus since we are on over an acre of land, it would be quite expensive.
The Invisible Fencing people do guarantee their product for a year, so I may call them and see what they have to say. I know it will not be cheap, but my dogs safety is of utmost importance. She is a bit stubborn, as alot of bulldogs are, but if it doesn't work, we can atleast get a refund, and I won't feel ripped off. I just want to be able to work in the garden in warm weather, wash my car, do lawn work, etc. without having to tie her to a tree.
We do live in the country so that might pose a problem as well. She actually thinks she can catch a squirrel, rabbit, or even the deer that frequent our back yard. She has short legs, but she can sure move fast!
Wish me luck! And any other replies will be greatly appreciated.

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honeybear
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posted 02-12-2004 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
Because she is a bulldog and does not have the prey drive that some others do, it may work. I would give it a try. I heard that they do work well with some dogs and others they dont.

good luck
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Maisey
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posted 02-12-2004 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't looked into these products, but I did read a thread on another board recently between trainers discussing shock collars. They talked about how people try to put it on a low setting and then keep having to bump it up for it to be effective, essentially what they are doing is desensitizing their dogs to the shock little by little. They seemed to agree that putting it on a higher setting so that the dog gets a good kick is more likely to keep him from wanting to test it again. I used an electric fence for Witt, it was a portable kind we take camping for the horses. It had quite a zap to it and he learned quick. You could also try fencing off a smaller area that is just for her, I'm sure a 4' would be fine for an English Bulldog, then she would have her place and be safe.

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goob
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posted 02-12-2004 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
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I did read a thread on another board recently between trainers discussing shock collars. They talked about how people try to put it on a low setting and then keep having to bump it up for it to be effective, essentially what they are doing is desensitizing their dogs to the shock little by little

Yep. Annie's to the point in learning to track where she needs to learn to indicate articles (items dropped along the track, the dog is supposed to indicate them by doing a certain behavior, in Annie's case, we want her to down), and we were working with her on her downstays last weekend for that. The place uses a lot of compulsion in basic obedience (I've done Annie's obedience work up until now by myself, and used little compulsion, mostly motivation for a toy and praise), and they suggested several times that I use an e-collar on her, explaining how it would be used in the process. They said we'd start off with it just vibrating, then move up to a low shock, then keep progressing to higher levels if she fought through the correction (she hates doing downs, especially on cold/wet ground or floors, so I have my work cut out for me). Not the thing for Annie, nor for me, so we're using a different way (lots of toy motivation with mild/moderate leash corrections for breaking the stay or refusing to down). I did find the way they explained it interesting though, even though I didn't exactly agree with using it for that. Anyway, sorry to have turned the subject around a bit

The main concern I'd have with using an electric fence is the dog getting so caught up in chasing after the neighbors' dogs that she goes through the fence, or her developing border aggression because they're always out there, and she doesn't understand why she can't get to them even though there's nto a visible barrier. I know a few English Bulldogs, and though they tend to be laid back, they do have some prey drive, and once they're on something, they're on it. If she's into chasing a deer or rabbit and gets hit with the electric, she may go right on through, and once it happens once, you can forget about it keeping her in. Also, keep in mind that electric fences require training of the dog to get them to work properly.... so be prepared to spend some time doing that if you choose that route.

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