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Lori New Member  Posts: 6 |
posted 02-09-2004 07:48 AM
 
I just rescued a year old Yorkie. He is sweet and loving, however he is not housebroken. I always paper train my Yorkies with 100% success, but this little guy worries me because he doesn't mind messing in his crate (even though it is really small). Since he was left in a small crate the first year of his life, he is used to going whenever and wherever he pleases. I will wake up frequently during the night to put him on his papers and he will go, however, if I do not wake up, he will go in his crate and sleep in it. During the day, he stays in a large exercise pen with papers on one side and his bed and toys on the other side. I am teaching hime the word "pee pee" and trying to familiarize him with the correct area to relieve himself. Right now it is hit or miss (literally!) Does anyone have any suggestions of how to get him to not want to sleep in his mess? Thank you so much! IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member  Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-09-2004 08:09 AM
This is such a tricky one. I have often heard that these dogs are very difficult to housetrain. I can't recall reading anything that works off the top of my head, but I will try to look some stuff up for you! Kudos on rescuing the poor little guy!
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Rene Member Posts: 161 |
posted 02-09-2004 09:48 AM
Hi Lori, I have 2 yorkies one is 1 year 6 mos and the other is 1 year 1 month. Yes they are the hardest dogs to potty train mine still are not i tried the paper thing they just ripped up the paper all over the house also those training pad were all over the house torn apart. when we are home we leave the back door open for them but they still choose to go in my den. I dont crate them at all and they have full run of the house i found that if i take them for a walk right before bed time we dont have any accidents but it's hard for me to walk them since i also have a rotty it's very hard to walk 3 dogs my son usually helps me but if he is busy then i just sit out back with them till they go. I'm glad you rescued the poor little guy i dont really have much advice on potty training since i cant get mine to go where they are supposed to aside from that they are wonderful little babies and sweethearts i love them to death good luck with your new babie IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-09-2004 10:00 AM
Oh, just for good measure, have you had him checked out for any medical problems that could be causing him to urinate in his bed? Bladder infection, etc? And are you sure you are letting him out often enough? Restricting water before bedtime? Do you have any idea WHEN he is wetting his crate? Soon after you put him in, an hour later, several hours later....?
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-09-2004 10:03 AM
I also found this on one site: "What Should I Put In The Crate For My Puppy To Sleep On? Nothing. Did you ever wonder why, if there was one tiny throw rug in the midst of a sea of linoleum, your dog or puppy always messed on the rug? It's because of Rule Number 2: dogs always seek the most absorbent place to do their business. Since we don't want the puppy to get the idea that we want him to soil his crate, don't put a blanket or towel, or even a canvas covered crate pillow inside, yet. Later, after the puppy has demonstrated cleanliness in the crate, you may do so." Perhaps this will help, but I think puppy mill dogs are a special problem since they have been forced to soil their beds all their lives.
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Lori New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 02-09-2004 10:09 AM
I took Max to my vet right when I got him and aside from having tapeworm he received a good bill of health. He messes in his crate about 4-5 hours after I put him in. I do wake up to put him on his papers but I know that if I didn't, he wouldn't mind laying in it. I wonder what is better, to crate train him or to let him stay in his exercise pen with his bed and papers? IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-09-2004 12:23 PM
Okay, I would say crate train him. BUT you need to make sure you get to him BEFORE he messes the crate. So every 3 hours or so, make sure he has the opportunity to go on his papers. This is round the clock! I'm sure he would prefer to NOT mess his bed, once he realizes he will not have to. But it may take some time. In the meantime, the fewer accidents in the crate he has, the better. We used to have outside dogs (I don't want to talk about it...) who had a kennel in the garage that they had free access to from the outside. At night we would lock them in the kennel, because they were barkers. They were always fine, until one day they didn't get let out for a long time and they soiled the kennel. From then on, they soiled it much more often, after fewer hours locked in. So, try to avoid accidents, be patient, and hopefully he will learn! Oh, and make going on the papers VERY rewarding - big praise, treats, etc.
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 02-09-2004 01:16 PM
I agree with Jimaya, shorten the length of time between potty breaks until he gets the idea that you WILL be coming to let him go potty, that may take a while but if you can beat him to the punch each time he may be quicker on the uptake. Perhaps once he has established in his mind that you will be coming to let him out to potty he will start asking for you when he has to go. IP: Logged |
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2pyrs Member Posts: 30 |
posted 02-09-2004 02:52 PM
Ok don't laugh at me but we had a little girl we got from older couple that could not care for her any more a while back and she would go in her bed.(No Crate)Had papers every where and she would find or make a place to go around them. So I ask a close friend very close friend if she would take a piece of news paper and let her"guy" go on it for us. We took it home and placed it with a few papers and sure enough she went on it. We did this for a few weeks and then we started to take the paper outside. It took us around 4-5 months but it worked for us.... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-09-2004 03:16 PM
Good idea! I think that is the idea behind the actual "puppy papers" that you can buy at the petstore - they have some sort of odor that a puppy associates with going potty on them. Whether or not it works, I don't know. That's an idea though, Lori - if your little guy has an accident, clean it up with his papers (or put the poo on his papers) and maybe next time he will want to use them.
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Lori New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 02-09-2004 04:09 PM
Okay, some good news to report. Today Max only had one accident in his exercise pen. The rest of the day he actually made on the wee wee pads. He did try to lay on the wee wee pads, but I kept discouraging it. Tonight I plan on getting up frequently to put him on his papers. I guess I just need to have a little more patience and understanding. Here's my other situation: I have a year and a half old Yorkie already and he doesn't have much experience with other dogs. Max really wants to play with him, at least I think it's playing, he runs up to him and growls and teases my first dog (Buddy). Since Buddy has no experience, he just growls kind of nasty at Max, at which time I pull Max's leash away. Should I just let them duke it out to see who is boss, or should I try to keep them civil and apart? Your advice would be greatly appreciated. IP: Logged |
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karma Member Posts: 77 |
posted 02-10-2004 08:45 AM
Hi Lori, Regarding the crate training, I'll pass on something we tried, that worked with our Jack Russell female. We hard a hard time housetraining her and sometimes she would mess in her crate also. Using the theory that the crate is their little den and they don't like to mess in their dens- we finally started keeping a small bowl of water and a good sized fairly greasy meat bone in the crate with her. Dogs also don't like to mess where their food is, either. This just about cured her crate-messing- she maybe had only 1 or 2 accidents after we tried this. I am not an animal behavior expert and for all I know this might fly in the face of the conventional wisdom for training, for reasons I can't think of. I'll just say we did it, and it worked. As for your one dog going after the other- I've always been a big believer in letting animals work these things out for themselves. Of course I'd be ready to intervene if one started unduly punishing another- but usually the spats aren't too harsh. It may be your older dog's way of communicating when the new one oversteps his bounds. This is how dogs learn- it's part of the pack process. Good luck and keep up updated! IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-10-2004 09:00 AM
Right. You don't want to punish or correct them for communicating. A growl is communication and not a bad thing. They need to come to a doggie understanding between themselves. If you punish them for interacting, it will only make things worse. You do want to intervene if someone is going to get hurt.
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