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RoSe1_24_04 New Member  Posts: 6 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:10 AM
 
as u can see its 5 am n im up on a sun!!! i jus got ma puppy yesterday. shes a blk lab/chow n shes 8 weeks. shes adorable...problem is she wont go to sleep!! i need sum advise on how to make ma puppy sleep....please help im soo tired! IP: Logged |
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Miss_vp2002 Member  Posts: 152 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:28 AM
When my husband and I got Jasper she was 6 weeks old and she cried and cried for hours on end at that age. We let her sleep in the laundry on a bed and underneath the bed we put a ticking clock because she thinks that it's her mother's heart beat and she used to sleep through the night but would wake up about 2 -4 times so she could have something to eat and go to the toilet. We (on occasion) used to let her sleep in the middle of us up near our heads aswell. They are just a couple of suggestions, but other people might have a better answer to give you then me. Jasper is now 3 years old and she now sleeps out the back on her bed and she loves it. Goodluck with your puppy and keep us posted on how you go. Jody IP: Logged |
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RoSe1_24_04 New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:34 AM
thanxs...im goin to put a tickin clock underneath her beddin as soon as i get one. but ma puppy seems to be scaredof her crate. sometimes she would go in. now she felll asleep on ma foot. i dunno if i should let her sleep on the floor n go to ma bed or carry her to her bed. IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 01-25-2004 09:27 AM
Puppies are alot of work and you can compare it to having a baby. I am glad to see that you are crate training her. That is a good thing and it is great for potty training. Put in a shirt that smells like you and a toy. Giving her a treat in the kennel is not a bad idea either. Remember that it will take her at least a week or so to get used to it. She will whine and yell but don't give in. At night make sure the crate is beside your bed and make sure you don't pay attention to her when she is whining and yelling. That just makes her think that is what she needs to do to get your attention and you will never get any sleep! Never let her out if she is making noise. Praise her lavishly when you let her out of the kennel when she is quiet. She will get it. The trick is consistancy and not giving in when she is loud. At first you might not get any good sleep but you will eventually after about a week. You will be surprised how much they grow to love their crates. Mine go in to relax, play, and chew on their bones! At two months you should be getting up every 3-4 hrs to let her go potty. The rule of thumb is the age in months plus one. That will be how long they can hold their urine. It gets better as they get older and she will everntually sleep through the night. When my girl Bailey at 3-4 months old I was getting up at least twice a night to let her go potty. At 5-6 months it was once a night. After that she slept through the night. I took their water away a couple hours before bedtime and that helped alot. If you decide to let her sleep in bed with you or on the floor, she may have an accident. Crate training really helps with potty training. You will eventually be able to sleep but the first few weeks can be very tiring. People get puppies not realizing that they can be alot of work. You have to hang in there and be consistant with your training. Your puppy sounds really cute. You can do it!  IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 01-25-2004 01:44 PM
HI We have it again about crating a puppy i dont understand in why this is done i have never crated any of my dogs nor there puppies. Yes puppies have accidents but they can be trained to let you know when they need to go out i know that every owner has there own views on crate training but i dont believe in it and even when i go out i never lock them up my dogs have free run of my house including the puppies by the time my pups are 6-8 weeks old they are fully house trained. With me breeding shepherds my body automatically wakes me every couple of hours to check to see if the dogs need to go out. Letting the puppies out after waking after feeding and drinking and even after play time all help reduce accidents in the home if i dont respond to then straight away they have accidents near the backdoor never on carpets or in any part of my home. just my opinion mike. IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:15 PM
I never believed in crating either until I got Huskies. Intelligent and destructive dogs they are. This breed of dog is easily bored and they will find "fun things" to amuse themselves like turning over the trash, tearing up pillows, chewing on carpet, counter cruising, etc. My dogs love their crates and will go in and play, take a nap, and chew their bones. Since I quit my job I am home with my dogs most of the time but if I need to go out for a while that is where they go and not for more than 4 hours at time(and 4 hrs is rare). We are moving in the summer to North Carolina and I plan to build a dog pen for them to exercise in and to enjoy the outdoors. Also it will come equiped with a big comfy doghouse! That is where they will be if we leave the house. Right now I live in military housing with my husband and I can't have a 6 ft fence cemented in concrete like I would like. Huskies are escape artists that will jump fences and dig, dig, dig! All I have is a 4 ft fence that isn't Husky proof. So I don't trust my dogs out there without supervision. Since I don't trust my dogs, crating is a good option. It keeps them safe and my house too! What I am trying to say is crating a dog is ok as long as it isn't abused. They practically run over each other to get to the crates when I put them out because I associate the crates with good things like special chew toys and peanut butter kongs to occupy them. Like I said before, crating is not bad as long as the owner doesn't abuse it. IP: Logged |
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tuttifrutti Member Posts: 478 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:20 PM
Yes, we have crate trained our brittany. You may need to let them out every now and then when they whine, because they may have to go to the bathroom, but only allow them to do that! Don't play with them, or let them eat or drink as that can cause them to have to go the bathroom more often in the middle of the night. Ranger whined the first few nights of being in the kennel, so he slept in his kennel in the garage, where we could no long hear him. Once he got used to and like his kennel, he was able to sleep inside of his kennel in the kitchen. Unless sleeping at someones feet, that is the only place besides his bean bag that he will fall asleep. He takes his bones in there, he chews on his toys in there. He LOVES it! When it is dark outside, and he is ready for bed, he runs into his kennel after being put out to go to the bathroom. He then lays in there quietely in the morning until someone gets up to let him out. I think crate training is great, and can't imagine what all he would have eaten and destroyed if he didn't sleep in there at night! IP: Logged |
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ickleady Member Posts: 11 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:25 PM
hello dont let her get the better of you! buy a puppy cage, and when u go 2 bed at night put her in the cage with a blanket, fresh water and a toy (preferably a teddy) - she will probally cry for the first couple of nights but she will learn that is her bed and also that not matter how long and loud she cries u are not coming down the stairs to give her a cuddle!!! I did this with my pup and when she got to big for the cage she was still determined that was her bed and would lie with her bum sticking out!! I have now got her a proper basket and she fine Give it a go - just remeber they are like babies - dont give in or u will make life hard for yourself IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:28 PM
I understand about the chewing and digging i am one of the lucky few taht has dogs that dont do that wheni am not home a friend comes in and sits and plays with the dogs so there is no time to be bored. The only thing my puppies have ever chewed was my other dogs toys and you can imagen how upset my other dogs got hehehehe. I have my backdoor leading to the yard open allday when i am home so they can go out whenever they feel like it they have never slept outside. But like i say each owner is different on how they train there dogs/puppies mike. IP: Logged |
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RoSe1_24_04 New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 01-25-2004 02:48 PM
thanxs very much... im goin to keep all ur advise in mind. Rose (her name) hates goin outside..i think cuz mayb its too cold. but wen i take her out onli once in a while she would potty but wen she dont she comes in and like 5 mins later she does it inside.it drives me krazi cleanin up. do u guys noe how mani times i should feed her? n recently shes been bitin rougly she even made a little cousin bleed. i dunno how to stop i tried lockin her up in the bathrooom for like 10 mins. she seems to stop but then continues again after. IP: Logged |
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tuttifrutti Member Posts: 478 |
posted 01-25-2004 04:17 PM
When Ranger bit, we would grab the upper half oh his snout, and press on the roof of his mouth. Before that, we would simply hold his mouth closed and tell him no bite, but more than 1/2 the time he ended up biting his tongue while we did that, so we switched to the other way. As for the potty training, just stick with it, and unless you see her going somewhere that she is not supposed to, don't punish her, as she won't remember what she did wrong. Praise her when she goes in the correct place, but don't give her treats, as she may come to expect that every time she goes potty in the correct place! IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 01-25-2004 04:49 PM
Locking your dog in the bathroom will accomplish nothing except scare her and it teaches her nothing. There are right ways to train a dog properly and to let her know what is expected of her. The biting is puppy playing and is very common through puppyhood. When puppies bite each other too hard they yelp loudly and this is how puppies learn that they play too rough with each other so when she bites you, yell "Ow!" really loud then proceed to ignore her for about 10-15 minutes. She may try to jump on you and get your attention but ignore her. This will not work overnight and consistancy is the key here. She will learn that you will not put up with biting and fun time is over. You have to keep doing it and be consistant. Plus, you can also give her an approriate chew toy when she bites or starts to chew something she isn't supposed to. As for potty training, the best way to do this is to take her out frequently and praise her lavishly when she goes and give her treats. If you catch her going where she isn't supposed to tell her firmly "Outside" and take her there. Then when she goes, praise her lavishly and tell her what a good girl she is. Never punish her if you find out she went potty in the house and you didn't catch her. She will have no idea what you are punishing her for and she will fear you. The cold might be scaring her and put a damper on your potty training but try to be consistant. She is still really young so don't expect her to be fully potty trained for at least a couple of months(these things don't happen overnight and take time). I wouldn't give her full run of the house until she is potty trained. To keep an eye on her, try tying a leash around your waist and watch her that way. Then she can't wander off and go elsewhere. You have to remember she is just a baby. You have only had her for a few days and you already sound impatient with her. She is looking to you for guidence and that means gently showing her the right way to do things. Training a dog takes some time. Buy some training books can help you. Go online and look into puppy training. Or you can keep coming here and we will be glad to help answer any of your questions. Oh and feeding her twice a day is good. It is on the puppy food bag how many cups to feed her according to her weight. Split it up. For instance if it says 3 cups a day, feed her 1 1/2 cups in the morning then in the afternoon another 1 1/2 cups. [This message has been edited by Karriesue (edited 01-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 01-25-2004 05:16 PM
Hi. At 8weeks old your pup should be fed atleast 4 times aday the amount is on the can or bag as to how much you should feed a puppy of her weight and size. say if in total your puppy should be eating 1 1/2 small cans of meat a day then this should be split to make up the 4 meals. Puppy's should not be fed less than this as the amount they eat for the first year of there life is vital to health and bones. Puppies do not become adults till they are 18-24months old. toilet training, Taking your pup outside as soon as she wakes after she has eaten or had a drink, after play time and just before you goto bed reduce the risk of accidents. Biting, Never grab a dogs top part of its mouth and never press against the roof of her mouth as she is still only a baby and this can cause damage to her mouth. Patience is a virtue with puppy's the more you teach her right from wrong the better a dog she will become. Mike. IP: Logged |
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RoSe1_24_04 New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 01-25-2004 05:57 PM
rose just doesnt seem to have an interest in her toys she ignores it and starts biting other stuff like our clothing, hands, feet, and shoes..she would onli play wit her toy wen we force it in her mouth but after a whil she drops it n forgets about it. IP: Logged |
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lotsOdots Member Posts: 15 |
posted 01-25-2004 07:06 PM
hello a great toy to ware your puppy out is a kong toy it is make of rubber. The puppy will not be able to chew pieces off. The come in red and black if you get one get the blakc it is for heavy duty chewers. The kong has opening in them to stuff treats or carrots or even a cup of frozen puppy food in it. However i would not give hte puppy alot of food before it goes to bed because what goes in must come out. But the kong is just an idea to tire the puppy out and once the puppy gets into the chewing stage kongs can save your entire house. We have dalmatians and they love to chew howver they love the kongs alot better and it keeps them busy with some brain stimuli IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 01-25-2004 09:01 PM
Mike, where did you hear about feeding a puppy four times a day? I was told by our vet, the breeder I got my dogs from, and I read in various places that it is twice a day. I am definately not saying you are wrong, I am just curious as to if this a personal preference, something you have read, etc. and I am wondering if my info is wrong. Thanks! [This message has been edited by Karriesue (edited 01-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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susan_cude@hotmail.com Member Posts: 813 |
posted 01-25-2004 09:26 PM
You got some great advise here, I hope you use it. The idea of using the kong (toy) is a very good one. You don't have to worry about your pup chewing off a piece and swallowing it. And they last forever! Puppies need to chew, just like babies when they begin teething. Their gums hurt, and it feels very good to them to chew on something. If you give your puppy her kong each time she starts to chew on you, she'll get the message. Hope all goes well with the new member of your household. Susan IP: Logged |
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RoSe1_24_04 New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 01-25-2004 09:30 PM
i think rose got the point of the potty thing. she woke me up twice n i took her out n she went potty! im so proud. lol. but now she wants to jump on ma bed n go to sleep she keeps whingin i duno wat to do. should i close the crate or leave it open wen she goes to sleep? IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 01-26-2004 01:31 AM
Hi Karriesue, I have always fed my puppies 4 times aday and my mum did the same when she was breeding shepherds all the breeders i know feed there puppies 4times a day its a personal preference to the owner but like i stated the food intake for the first year is vital to health and growth. miek IP: Logged |
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susan_cude@hotmail.com Member Posts: 813 |
posted 01-26-2004 08:48 AM
Hi Rose, You need to re-read the posts! you got all the info you need right here for the sleeping arrangements. Good luck to you! and remember! she's just a baby... Susan IP: Logged |
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squidgeyem Member Posts: 47 |
posted 01-26-2004 09:01 AM
can i ask a question but how are you meant to feed pups four times a day majority of pet owners and breeders work full tim.. i manage three but not four.. i feed them in a morning then as soon as i return from work and then before bed... IP: Logged |
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RoSe1_24_04 New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 01-26-2004 10:09 AM
its a miricle i slept for 6 hours! IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 01-26-2004 11:15 AM
With me feeding 4 times a day, I am home all of the time unless i need to go out to do shopping or go visit family and my friend comes in and feeds the meals i cant give them. like i pointed out feeding is different from owner to owner. My adult dogs are fed twice a day morning and agan in the evening. Puppies are fed 6am 10am 2pm 6pm. Since my door is open alday they have access to the yard wheneverthey want as they go out and play with my older dogs aswell as there parents. mike. IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 02-01-2004 10:07 AM
Bumping this up. IP: Logged |
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susan_cude@hotmail.com Member Posts: 813 |
posted 02-05-2004 11:39 PM
bumping this up for another poster. IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-06-2004 06:45 AM
Get this baby a Kong and fill it with peanut butter and put it in the crate with her. Most pup cry because they are bored...Make the crate a happy place for her. You will have to get up every few hours so the pup can eliminate, but put her right back in when she is done....and again a filled Kong is the way to go...it gives them something to do. PS...not crunchy, only smooth. IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-06-2004 06:51 AM
I replyed, but it never posted, so I will try again. LOL.....get yourself a Kong and fill it with creamy peanut butter...it will give her something to do...they whine cause they are bored and want you to play. You will still have to get up every few hours to let out to got potty, but a peanut butter filled Kong will allow you to get some sleep. try it and let us know if it works...they LOVE them. IP: Logged |
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