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mdman126 Member  Posts: 35 |
posted 01-23-2004 10:20 AM
 
hi, i have a 2 months old male pomeranian puppy , i got him about 2 weeks ago. he is very smart and cute and we all love him but he has a couple of problems. first he bites a lot specially in the morning when he gets up, i have tried the bitter apple on my hands, i tried to yell loud "NO" , and some other things but none has worked he still bites. the second problem is that he wakes me up at 2 in the morning and keeps crying and barking, i have sprayed water on his face and yelled at him but he keeps crying and whining. please tell me how i can correct these problems? thanks a lot: gil IP: Logged |
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puggleowner Member Posts: 228 |
posted 01-23-2004 10:51 AM
Did you ever stop to think that maybe he needs to go the bathroom? When they are young, puppies often need to go out 2-3 times during the night, their bladders are tiny and can't hold much. The first thing you need to do when you hear him bark like this is take him out to go the bathroom. Once he does that and you return him to his cage, if he still barks, then ignore it (and DON'T yell)- but always rule out the possibility that he has to go to the bathroom first. You squirt him in the face with water and yell at him instead? I'm starting to think this post is a joke, and maybe I'm falling for it by answering, because this happened a few months ago and it ago everyone all riled up. As for the chewing, he's a puppy, and will grow out of it. [This message has been edited by puggleowner (edited 01-23-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 01-23-2004 11:24 AM
Gil, your pup is only 8 weeks old..he is sooooo much just a baby. When he wakes you up at night immediately take him outside to go potty, when he does REWARD with praise big time. As he gets older the frequency of night time potty breaks will diminish, but for now you should be taking him out to go everytime he wakes up from a nap, after he has played, after he has eaten and generally about every 30 minutes. If he starts sniffing around the house...take him outside and say "go potty" in an upbeat voice. Always reward with praise, and treats even. You have to be consistent, possitive and patient. Squirting him in the face is not an answer. The biting is normal puppy stuff, again...patience is required. When he gets too rough or mouths you say "ouch!" and end all play. Your dog is not deaf(I assume) so yelling is not necessary. Using a firm tone is enough. How you handle your puppy now will have a great impact on the kind of adult dog he becomes, there is a window of opportunity for molding your pup into a wonderful socialized companion, research the heck out of raising puppy topics here and on other sites and really get into being a prepared owner. You will be rewarded in the end. As my grandpa always said.."You reap what you sow" [This message has been edited by Maisey (edited 01-23-2004).] IP: Logged |
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mdman126 Member Posts: 35 |
posted 01-23-2004 12:36 PM
hi guys and thanks for responding, my puppy is not in a cage. i would not put him in a cage anymore because i did that for a few days and it he was making loud monkey noises and it was not because he needed to go!!!. he sleeps on a special pillow by my bed and when he needs to poop or urinate he goes freely and does his stuff on the special pads that i got for him. i also feed him well. he is just very excited all the time and keeps crying at night and i dont know what to do? saying no loudly, spraying water and so on was told to me by a trainer at petco store. i did not do that on my own!!! i just have to find away to make him stop barking at night. thanks, gil IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 01-23-2004 12:47 PM
We have all fallen into the trap of heeding the advice of a trainer that turns out to be bad advice. It's very easy to do. I found crate training to be great, but if he is doing fine without it then by all means, go with what works for you. Perhaps the little guy is just lonely and missing his mommy and littermates. Did you get him directly from the breeder? I know I have read that when you pick a puppy up from a breeder, you should take a towel and rub it on his mom and littermates and bring it home with you - sort of a comfort thing for the pup. Why don't you try giving him a shirt of yours or a towel - something with your scent on it - that he can keep in his bed. You might also try a heating pad on low (make sure he can't chew on the cord) or a hot water bottle. A stuffed animal and a ticking clock have also helped some little critters who get lonely at night. Otherwise, just ignore the whining. I know you will be tired, but that's life with a puppy (just like a baby). If you give him attention for whining, he will learn to do it more and more to get what he wants. If you wait a long time and then finally give in, this is even WORSE - you are training him to be persistent and whine for a long time. Be patient with the little guy. For the nipping, just tell him firmly "No!" and if he persists, ignore him completely. When he finally quits, immediately praise him and give him attention. If he starts back up again - ignore again. He will soon learn that he has to behave to get your attention. Puppies are a LOT of work. Good luck to you, and please come and ask any questions you have. And get a new trainer! And pictures. We want pictures! (Have I mentioned I love Poms - and the puppies are sooo cute!)
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 01-23-2004 01:23 PM
My puppy did this. I tried all that stuff people say (spraying water(he liked this), yelling ouch (he thought that was funny), ignoring him(this i found to be impossible)) ... none of it worked. Or maybe it did. Not sure. It doesn't work when he is actually biting me, but he does bite a lot less. His biting is actually how I found this board b/c I thought I had bought Cujo. He is 4 mos old now and much more well behaved. He still has a looonnnnggg way to go but he is getting there. Slowly. Anyways, he just needs time. Keep reprimanding him whatever way works best with him. I just put Indiana out when he gets too hyperbiting. IP: Logged |
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mdman126 Member Posts: 35 |
posted 01-23-2004 01:57 PM
hi again , when my pom puppy is barking and whining at night i want to ignore him, but i can't because there are other people sleeping here at home and my dad is not well so that is why i have to stop him from making all those noises. plus our neighbors will be complaining. i have tried all those things, a clock, a radio, toys, and chewing stuff but none has worked. in Petco store they told me to buy this toy called KONG and fill it with peanutbutter and so i did but he hates it so bad and does not care for it at all. any other suggestion to stop the whining at night? thanks a lot Gil IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 01-23-2004 02:36 PM
Everyone here has given you great advice. For the biting, that is a puppy thing. Yell "Ouch" really loud then ignore him for about 10 or so minutes. He may jump on you and try to play but you ignore him. This doesn't work overnight but with consistantcy and time it helps diminish the biting. He will soon grow out of it. As for the whining at night, there is nothing that you can do except ignore him. Everyone is right. My puppy whined for a solid week before she learned that I wasn't going to pay attention to her and she quit. The more you pay attention to him, the more he will do it! He knows if he keeps at it you will pay attention to him eventually be it good attention or bad. Everyone in your household is just going to have to put up with it and get some earplugs. He will eventually stop so don't worry. Having a puppy is alot of work. It is just like having a baby. I highly recommend crate training. He will whine for about a week but he will grow to love his crate and even go there for naps and chew on his toys. By the way, whoever it was at Petco that you talked to about training? Ignore him and never go back!! Did you say you were using puppy pads? Are you going to stay with them or is he going to eventually go outside? A dog at two months, should have to go potty about every 3-4 hours. The rule of thumb is the age in months plus one. Good luck. It does get better. Consistancy is the key. IP: Logged |
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 01-23-2004 03:09 PM
Gil, please don't take ths wrong..I really don't mean to criticize, just offer some logic. Puppies are like babies,they cry and whine. He is in a whole new situation, everythig is new and confusing. I can appreciate that you have other family at home and that your father is ill, but the bottom line is... that should have been considered before you got the pup and everyone should have been prepared to be inconvenienced for a while. Thats just the facts of life with a puppy. Now the puppy is there and he can't help that he is a puppy. Every time you give him a reaction when he whines though, you are unwittingly teaching him that thats how he is supposed to ask for your attention, and he will continue to do it. Crate training is valuable, if thats not something you want to do than finding an alternative that is both fair to the pup and ensures behavior you want in an adult dog is whats next to do. IP: Logged |
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mdman126 Member Posts: 35 |
posted 01-23-2004 03:52 PM
maisey i understand what you are saying. you are right now the puppy is here and i have to deal with it. when you say krate training could you please elaborate and explain how to do it? thanks, gil IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 01-23-2004 04:41 PM
Crate training. You buy a crate that is just big enough for the puppy to turn around and lie down in. No bigger. It can be a plastic crate or a wire crate. You can even buy one big enough for him when he is an adult and then use a divider (some come with this) or block off part of it with a cardboard box or something, in order to make it smaller while he is a puppy. Whenever you can't be directly supervising the puppy, in the crate he goes! That means at night and during the day when he can't be watched. Do NOT let him out for whining. Just ignore it. When we first got Nala, her crate went next to our bed and I would stick my fingers through and let her lick them for a little while. She was really good, though, and we never had any trouble with whining. Some puppies will whine and carry on, but they usually stop within a week if you consistently ignore them. The only thing you have to watch for in one so little is that they have to be let out to go potty. So if he whines and it is time for him to go, take him directly to his spot, let him go, and then put him right back in the crate. Do not play with him or speak to him more than you have to - you don't want to make it a fun outing for him. If you do this and he doesn't go, just pop him back in the crate. He will soon learn that he only gets out to potty at night, not to play. And as he gets older, he will be able to hold it longer so you won't have to get up with him as much. Let us know how it goes and if you have any more questions. And may I ask how old you are, if you don't mind telling us?
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susan_cude@hotmail.com Member Posts: 813 |
posted 01-24-2004 12:22 AM
Hi Gil, I also recommend that you wear him out with play before bedtime. Not too soon before bed or he will get wired up, but about an hour or so before, that might help a little. I really like the idea of a crate, you should concider that also. Thier are alot of knowledgable people on this board, so I do hope you heed thier advise. Also each time your puppy starts to bite you, replace your hand with a chew toy, and give him praise when he takes it. Good luck! Susan IP: Logged |
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 01-24-2004 02:13 AM
Gil, just like Jimaya explained, the part about size is important, so you don't end up with a dog who is willing to go in his bed. The only difference in my case was that I only used the crate at night and when I wasn't home. It kept my pup from getting into something that could hurt him and kept my house safe from damage. At night, it meant the puppy had to wake me up to go potty. Both of my dogs cried and carried on as pups the first couple days even a week when we first started the crate training. It was really hard for my husband, he was worse than the puppy. He would try everything to get me to let the pup out. I would put my pup in the crate which was next to my bed, when I went to bed. I also stuck my fingers in the door so the pup knew I was right there, but I did not talk to the pup, not telling it "quiet" or anything else. Bedtime was bedtime. If you talk or respond to them when they whine they get more insistent. Ignore it and they give up and sleep. When he wakes up in the middle of the night, pick him up and carry him outside to his spot and tell him "go potty" in an upbeat tone. When he does tell him "Good boy!", make a big deal about it. Go back to bed, pup in crate, no talking to him. In a couple days he should stop with the whining and settle in more easily when it's night night time. Some pups take longer some settle quickly. Once he realizes the routine and understands, it will be much easier. I only had each of my pups in a crate at night until they were potty trained, then they slept in bed with me...now I sleep in bed with them! LOL. I used the crate when I wasn't home for probably the first year, Witt just turned 14 months old and I just started letting him stay out of the kennel while I am gone. They are past the stage of getting into things and chewing etc... they are well behaved as long as the garbage is put up. One last note...in my case I did not use puppy pads or paper...I have big dogs, that aside I don't like the whole idea of paper training, i think it sends the message that it's ok to go in the house as long as it's on something paper. Thats only my opinion though, many people do paper train. Also, both my pups were really easy to train, in part because I was home all day and put them out to go potty every twenty minutes, I watched them close and was very consistent. My first pup never had one accident in the house, Witt has only had a few and every time it was because I wasn't paying attention. Your pup may take a little longer or pick it up quickly...just depends on the individual dog and of course how consistent you are. BTW...welcome to the board! IP: Logged |
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susan_cude@hotmail.com Member Posts: 813 |
posted 02-01-2004 12:15 AM
bumping up to answer another post. IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 02-01-2004 10:17 AM
Hi Susan! Bumping it up again! IP: Logged |
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