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reggie08
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posted 01-12-2004 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reggie08     Edit/Delete Message
I have an 11 year old yorkie mix (male)Reggie. I acquired a (8 year old) male Lhasa Apso, about 2 months ago (casey) and moved into a new home mid November 2003, so there have been changes lately. The 2 dogs, Casey and Reggie tolerate each other and for the most part get along. It seems the new dog Casey is the dominant over Reggie, but they are okay. The problem is : a 7 month relationship with my boyfriend, Rick. The first 6 months have been great for Reggie and Rick. Now, Reggie, (yorkie) now seems to growl at him and blocks doorways when he tries to enter a room. Rick is friendly with Reggie, and if he is over for a 2nd day in a row, Ive noticed Reggies mood change. Yesterday Rick was petting Reggie when we got home and I witnessed Reggie nip at him then growl.
Seems like a dominance aggression. How do I handle before Rick gets bit?

[This message has been edited by reggie08 (edited 01-12-2004).]

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Jamiya
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posted 01-12-2004 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Could you clarify, please? Has this been happening with your boyfriend for 7 months? Or has it just started recently? You said if he stays for a 2nd day, Reggie's mood changes - in what way?

Has your boyfriend ever mistreated Reggie? Does he like Reggie?

How is Reggie toward other people? Strangers? People in your home?

How was your boyfriend petting Reggie when he got growled at - was he standing bending over him, or sitting with him?

Does Reggie guard particular rooms, or any room?

If Reggie warms up after a day, then perhaps Rick can try always having a treat handy when he comes over. First thing he can give the treat to Reggie and play with him. Maybe that would put Reggie at ease.

It sounds like Reggie has had a lot of changes lately. While this can be an explanation for his behavior, you are right in that you need to get it under control before it gets worse.

Have you had him checked by a vet, just to be sure there is no underlying health problem?

I know there are things you can do to help with resource guarding and teaching a dog what the rules are and what his place is. A few more details about your particular situation may help.

If Reggie does warm up after a day, perhaps Rick can work with him on obedience (is Reggie obedience trained?).

Having Reggie "earn his keep" is always a good thing to do, too - make him sit (or lie down or shake or whatever you want) before he can get a meal, go outside, play, etc. Anything he values he has to earn.


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reggie08
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posted 01-12-2004 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reggie08     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for writing.
Reggie has training, understands, give paw, sit, down, stay, very well. Reggie is allowed to sleep with me, as well as on furniture, this has changed with Rick, as he does not see the dogs in bed. So I compromised that part. WHen reggie nipped, Rick was standing over reggie, patting the head. The day before, however Reggie was on the couch on his back, letting Rick pet him and fell asleep next to him. Reggies last physical, was normal. I called rick to the bathroom, and he tried to get in door, and Reggie blocked it growling. Rick has never mistreated Reggie except stepping on him once without seeing him as REggie is always following me around the house, and the dogs get under foot.

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Jamiya
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posted 01-12-2004 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Reggie may be a bit jealous and not understand the rule changes about your bed and furniture. He will need some time and training to adjust.

Rick standing over Reggie and patting him on the head might seem threatening to the little guy. Have Rick approach from the side and get down on Reggie's level. Some dogs don't like being patted on the top of the head. Most dogs view someone leaning over them, especially from the front, to be scary. Reaching a hand out towards their heads at the same time is even worse.

Is there any reason Reggie would feel the bathroom is his? Does he have food in there, or a bed?

Maybe he was scared Rick would step on him again!

I would think some extra time and attention on Rick's part could help. Have him watch his body language. Get down on the dog's level, give him some treats, work him on obedience. Play his favorite game or with his favorite toy. Maybe have Rick feed him whenever he is over and it is feeding time. Have Rick tell Reggie to sit, and then give him his food. And you and Rick should play with Reggie together, too, so that Reggie knows all THREE of you are a family now.

I'm sure others will have more ideas for you as well, as soon as they wake up.


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reggie08
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posted 01-12-2004 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reggie08     Edit/Delete Message
Jamiya,
thank you for all the good tips. I dont think it was the "bathroom" persay , I think it would have been any room as that did happen after the step on. Rick did give treats yesterday, and the growl happened after also. Rick is now very leary of Reggie and I think Reggie is preying on that, or senses it. The thing I dont agree with is Rick wants to walk "armed" with a wooden spoon, or newspaper out of fear Reggie will bite. After what I read, that should not be done. I think the issuing treats for commands may help. thank you

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Maisey
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posted 01-12-2004 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Good advice Jimaya!
Reggie you are right, walking around "armed" is a terrible idea. striking the dog will only make matters worse. I think his behavior makes sense, he is jealous and gaurding what has essentially been his for a long time. He resents the rule changes and associates them with your boyfriend...and he would be correct. The changes have occured because of the boyfriend. I think kissing up at opportune moments is a good idea. I think being firm about the nipping is a must. OPne way to look at this though is that the dog is telling you...warning you. He growls and this is his way of communicating. The real problem would be if he snapped and bit without warning. The fact that he is growling means you have the opportunity to do something to change the behavior.

Try these links for helpful tips.
http://www.petsmart.com/pet_library/home_remedies/jealousy.shtml
http://www.co.clackamas.or.us/dc/avoid.htm
http://www.infopet.co.uk/pages/0130.html

you can do a search on "jealousy in dogs" and get a ton of information. Also consider an essence to help calm your dog, it might just take the edge off and help until you get this under control. I personally feel like the big problem here is that when you "compromised" with your boyfriend about the bed...after all these years, you essentially told the dog that the boyfriend ranks over him which in his eyes ruins the system that has been in place for a long time, it makes sense that he would resent that.
Just an idea...but how about if feeding, walking, treats etc. ALL come from your boyfriend. If he becomes the provider of all things needed, it may change the way your dog thinks of him.

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Jamiya
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posted 01-12-2004 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Hehe, I love this part from the 3rd site Maisey linked to:

"Dogs often appear possessive of their owners, which can be annoying when a dog latches onto one person in a household, growling at others. It's quite common for small, fluffy dogs, like Pomeranians, to decide they belong to the woman of the household. A cure for this is for all rewards to come from the man - including meals as well as tidbits. Walks can be a problem, since not all men want to be seen out with small, fluffy dogs! But walking with the man of the house can make a big difference in bonding, since the man not only becomes a source of pleasure, he also becomes the person who protects the dog in the big wide world outside. Perhaps men who feel embarrassed about walking fluffy dogs could call them 'Fang', 'Bruiser', or some other suitably butch (if incongruous) name."


I am also chuckling over the image in my head of your boyfriend (in my head he is a large man) walking around with a wooden spoon "guarding" himself from a teeny Yorkie.

As Maisey said, that would definitely be a bad idea. You are also correct in that the dog senses that your boyfriend is afraid of him. Dogs really play up that sort of thing.

I like Maisey's idea to have everything come from your boyfriend. You might also see if he will change his mind about letting Reggie in bed with you.

And if he really doesn't like the little guy, you could always get a new boyfriend. (Just kidding!)


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Maisey
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posted 01-12-2004 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Jimaya! That is a funny image..the boyfriend and wooden spoon.

I have this problem with Witt to an extent, he is of course not a little dog, which makes it more frightening for people, but he is a one person dog and I am his person. He will snap at Dooley or the cat for getting too close to me sometimes, for which he is put on a down stay. When we are out and about he frequently puts himself between me and an approaching person. I quickly put him back next to me at my side tell him to sit and say "I'll handle it". The trainer told me he needs to understand that I can handle myself and protect him, that it's MY job. When I do this he still stays alert, but checks with me every few seconds, he looks up at me as if to see if I am still "handling it". We are getting there...he has gotten a whole lot better, but I still know that forever and always I will have to watch him closely because he will always be ready to defend me from whatever he views as a threat. He doesn't seem to get jealous of my kids, although when Shawn and I hug or kiss he tries to get between us, he doesn't snap or growl or anything. My horse trainer gave me a hug one day after not having seen him for a while and Witt nearly skinned his hiney. Shawn had him on a leash and wasn't prepared for the lunging. Patience, Persistence and consistency.

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reggie08
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posted 01-15-2004 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for reggie08     Edit/Delete Message
thank you for the input.
The boyfriend began giving Reggie treats for obedience things, (sit, give paw, down, etc) it worked well . No growling and he seemed better towards each other. thank you all.

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