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Jamiya
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posted 01-07-2004 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
With all the talk about play fighting, I was wondering - what do you do if your dogs actually DO start fighting? I know my sister's dogs have had an occasional spat. Do you wade in and separate them? Throw water on them? What?


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Maisey
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posted 01-07-2004 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Mine have only ever had "spats", never a real all out fight, so I simply place my hand on Witt's back saying "enough" in a sharp tone and he quits. Dooley is 99 % of the time submissive to Witt, so if Witt says "it's mine" Dooley generally backs off. Breaking up a true dog fight is dangerous and should not be attempted unless you have prepared yourself by learning techniques that offer you as much safety as possible. Even then it's dangerous. My aunt who is very experienced, had her middle finger ripped off while breaking up a fight between two females, one protecting her new litter. There are articles on-line describing ways to break up a fight, some are good techniques some are not. Beware of the bad ones.

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honeybear
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posted 01-07-2004 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
Mine have never had a true fight - they get into spats which I break up )which means yelling tat them) which is always over the same thing, Jake trying to be dominent and will mount Wylie and she wont have anything to with it.
What do you consider play fighitng?

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Jamiya
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posted 01-07-2004 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
My sister has three dogs. Two are medium-sized and old, and one is a young Golden. The older boy is dominant, but he is getting creaky and crotchety.

A couple of months ago, they had a fight. She thinks it started because one of them thought her son was going to feed them some of his dinner, or perhaps he dropped something. The Golden and the older male started fighting, with the older female lending aid. She was terrified the Golden would kill the old guy, and she probably could have had she wanted to.

She said she was useless - she just stood there screaming at them which didn't help at all. They finally stopped on their own, and neither one was hurt. I think dogs are very good at settling disputes without injuring each other.

I know that's a question on the foster application, though - what would you do if a foster dog got into a fight with your dog. I suppose they aren't looking for "panic" as an answer.


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Maisey
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posted 01-07-2004 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Jimaya, I don't think panic is an answer to anything. In the wild dogs argue, it is not in their best interest to have wounds for obvious reasons so I think that the theatrics like Witt displays are a big part of it. SOUND viscious, LOOK big and mean and make threatening movements. The one with the biggest show wins. This is not true in all cases or with all dogs, but much of the time they are just making a point. Your sisters dogs could have certainly made injuries if that was their intent. I know dogs DO have serious fights and they get hurt, sometimes badly so it is important to know what to do, but much of the time letting the dogs work it out with little interference is a good idea. I sort of have a mental line...when they cross it I step in, since I am recognized as alpha in this house, when I say enough, it ends.
I broke up a fight at the park last year between two intact males, that was scary! Neither of the owners knew what to do, one was beating on a dog the other was screaming. I grabbed one of the dogs by the back legs up near the hips and dragged it backwards away from the other dog, at first the other dog was coming along for the ride until one of the owners snapped to and grabbed the other dog in the same way and headed in the opposite direction. It worked and there were only minor scratches on both dogs. Then the owners started in on each other, breaking that fight up wasn't nearly as easy.

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puggleowner
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posted 01-07-2004 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puggleowner     Edit/Delete Message
I know not the smartest thing to do, but I broke up a spat between our Cameron and her
"cousin," my brother-in-law's dog, Luke. Cameron got bratty because Luke took her toy right out of her mouth (he is a puppy who didn't know any better), anyway, all of a sudden we heard lots of barking and growling, so I put my hand in the middle to break them up, and Cameron accidentally got my hand in teh process. Surprisingly, though, she was barely even biting- it didn't hurt at all- like Maisey said, I think it was more of a display- they were showing their teeth and snapping their mouths and barking, but neither had even a scratch after it was over. This I would define as a "spat,"- it may sound bad, but it's not a serious fight. I have seen a real fight, though, and you will definately know- I can't explain it, but you can just tell when it has gotten really serious. When that's the situation, definately do not try to break it up unless you know a professional technique.

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