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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 01-06-2004 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all, it's almost time to start the puppy shots for Casey's litter. My Question is this: Can I buy the shots myself at the feed store and have my husband administer them? He said that he would. The reason being is: my vet is so expensive. But, I want to make sure that they are not harmed in any way by doing this. (I'm not selling them, I've found good homes for all of them with people I know. I knew I wouldn't have a problem, they are too cute! Susan

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posted 01-06-2004 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3Dogsihave     Edit/Delete Message
Susan I know many people who do give their dogs their own shots. The only problem I have encountered was my friend used to give my puppy (few years back) her shots and when I took her to the vet for her rabies, the vet would not unless she re-vaccinated. She told me that she had no proof the dog had her previous shots. Personally I think it was about the money, I since do not go to that vet but she would not take my word that my dog had been vaccinated. But like I said I think it was about the money for her, so hopefully no one else has had this problem.
Forgot to mention, she also told me that shots you get at a feed store are not as good as the ones from the vets office. I asked her to explain this and she mumbled on some stuff. When she asked how much I paid for them I told her and asked her how much hers cost. They were the same but according to her, hers were cheaper since she was a vet and I was not getting the same quality shots.

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 01-06-2004 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for the info, I appreciate it! But what I realy need to know is: it's by weight, right? I mean, that's how you know how much to give each puppy. I'll do a search for the info also....Thanks again! Susan

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posted 01-06-2004 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MistressKela     Edit/Delete Message
For all my puppies shots (and spay/neuters) I went to the local animal shelter for their discount services. My vet is great and all...but I'm not about to waste all that money on something that can easily be done by anyone. Puppies at the pet store? Who do you think gives them their shots? At the one I worked at....whichever high school student wasnt squirmy with the needles. Its not hard to do AT ALL and yes..if you feel comfortable doing it and knowing the proper amount to give...by all means go ahead and do it yourself. Going to a vet and getting shots...you're paying for a lot more than just the shot. You're paying for a nice air conditioned building and pretty decorations to look at while you wait.

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Maisey
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posted 01-06-2004 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Yes you can buy them at the feed store and administer yourself. Has your husband done it before? Before you do I would call and find out the appropriate dose of benedryl for the size of your puppies and keep it on hand in case of an allergic reaction in one of the pups.
I used to give most all my own shots and my vet never had a problem with it, I kept records and I kept the packages in the file for my dogs, but he never asked to see them. I do remember once, quite a long time ago going to Banfield vet clinic and being told I had to re-vaccinate my dog for several things including kennel cough before they would see him. I told them to "bite me" and walked out. Years later...I have heard several people complain about this clinic and the fact that they want you to vaccinate for everything under the sun. I now know who owns the two Banfield clinics closest to me, I board my horse right down the road from his house. They make a killing selling health plans to their clients. Some vets may huff about it...ask yourself why and then find a reasonable vet.

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posted 01-06-2004 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaydaysMom     Edit/Delete Message
The only problem you will encounter with giving your own shots is if you plan to board or get them groomed. Many boarding facilities will only accept vaccination records that come from a vets office.

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posted 01-07-2004 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all! Maisey thanks for the info on benedryl. Yes! he's done it before, years ago before we were married. I don't have the heart to do it myself. Whenever my dogs have to have shots of any kind, I have to leave the room, I get dizzy...that's why I was amazed with myself, helping Casey with her first pup. But I will be there for comfort afterwards.....Susan

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posted 01-07-2004 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marcia McLean-Jasinski     Edit/Delete Message
wait until 16 weeks they do not have any immune system until then.
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posted 01-07-2004 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
One more thing, Three have hair like a pomeranian. Do you have pomeranians groomed? I have no idea! Casey has short hair, I bath her and Freebie myself, but Freebie has to be groomed.....Gonna get a book, and learn how to do it myself. The cheepest place I have found here is $54.00 and that's without the tip! Everything is more expensive at the California Coast, makes me sick!!!!! my sister pays $18.00 for her's, and it's the same breed.....Anyway...got off track! Sorry!!!

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posted 01-07-2004 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Wow!!! what a wealth of knowledge you had there.....Thanks!

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posted 01-07-2004 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
HIya susan Puppies usually get there first shot at 8wks old 2nd 10wks and 3rd 12weeks.

The reason for this is the immunities that pass from the mother to her litter is no longer available as they are eating for themselves at 8weeks.

My dogs are vaccinated with Nobivac DHPPI, Nobivac LEPTO And Nobivac PPI.

These cover against Distemper, Hepatitis, Leptospirosis, ParvoVirus and Parainfluenza.
My dogs then get a booster every year.

My mum Gives my dogs there shots as i just cant do it as i dont like needles. I buy the vaccinations from the vet and he gave me a chart to show how much to administer and what weight the puppy should be.

Mike

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posted 01-07-2004 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
I give my dogs and puppies their own shots. I keep all the packages and stple them to their health records. All vaccinations that I have baught are the same dose per puppy. Both my vets told me that that is a standard dose. I don't have small dogs so I wouldn't know about tiny puppies....

Rabies and stuff are also all by standard dose size.
When my puppies are born, I order Puppy Kits from Purina and they all come with health report pages that you fill out.

I do take them all to the vet also reguardless if they have had their shots from me or not, but I don't see paying $25 for the exact same shot at the vet that I can buy for $5.50 at the Feed store.
They use the smae doses and same stuff at the vet that they do in the stores...

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posted 01-07-2004 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks again, you have all been so helpful! Mike thanks for giving me the names of the shots I will need....Sincerely, Susan

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posted 01-07-2004 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Lepto is a controversial one, so you may want to look into that one before you get it. Vaccination schedules are also wildly different depending on who you talk to.

I still want PICTURES!


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posted 01-07-2004 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RottieZeus     Edit/Delete Message
Hey I hope this helps, I do my pets shots, cats and dogs, with the exception of the Rabies cause a vet has to administer it. You can purchase your own shot records from certain pet catalogs. It is not hard to do at all. Just grab the scruff of the dog's neck, insert needle into the space under the skin (you'll feel i break through)(but not into the muscle) and inject and pull out. Quick and easy. Also very inexpensive. I get mine for my dog for 6 dollars and the cats at 26. Can't beat the price.

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Maisey
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posted 01-07-2004 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
My vet only gives Lepto in special cases, we went through this a while ago and there is a post called Leptospirosis you can search for for the reasons. Some vaccinations depend on the area you live in Susan...so check with your vet about what is recommended in your area.

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posted 01-08-2004 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
I was not suggesting that these are the vacinations that should be used as here in the uk we dont get half as many illness like rabies and so on like other countries do.

All vets here use lepto shots well the vets i have seen anyway.

Different countries have different methods of how early to spay/neuter hows soon to get your pet its shots and so on.

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posted 01-08-2004 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
THANK YOU! IT'S DONE! THEY GOT WHAT THEY NEEDED....SUSAN

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posted 01-09-2004 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
They didn't even cry much, just a little whimper...I'm so glad! I was realy dreading it....Tomorrow, one goes bye bye...not dealing with this very well! We will send the second shot home with the man that's taking him. I wanted to keep them all for two more weeks, but my husband promised this guy he could have him tomorrow.

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Hi, Susan i know how you feel when its time for my pups to go i do get a little upset but then you realise that they are going to people that will love them just as much as you do.

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posted 01-11-2004 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilovemaltipoos     Edit/Delete Message
Lepto is not as needed as people make it out to be and feed store shots are no good most of the time .Lepto can and does cause reactions and leave a knot on the neck of the puppy which can cause a tumor like knot that has to be cut out .Also ,shots come in predoses .I have never seen one that you have to determine the amount because it is predosed .And you have to mix the liquid with the powder and cannot keep it mixed for very long (an hour or so in the frig ) before it is not really any good anymore .The problem with feed store shots is and I have seen ...when they come in off the truck they may be packed in ice but the people that work there do not put them up in time for them to stay cold and if they get warm ...no good anymore .I let my vet give shots ,Fort Dodge is the best and most vets use that type .Also it may cost alittle more but you are sure they are protected in all ways and at least you have a vet record to show if something goes wrong .6 to 7 weeks first shots and every two to three after that until 3 to 4 shots have been given and then once a yr as a booster .A breeder that does not use a vet ,well ....just my opinion .

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posted 01-12-2004 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
i would just like to point out i gave the name of the shots my dogs and puppies have been given i did not say that this is what everyone should have given to there dog.

ilovemaltipoos My dogs have never had a reaction to lepto shots and with all shots there is a risk of a reaction this can happen with any drug administered to any animal.

I work closely with my vets but to save my time and the vets my mum gives all my dogs there shots she has done it for years and she gets the shots from the vets i dont buy from stores i wont even buy an animals from a petstore all meds wether it be shots or wormers they all come from my vet.

I have bred german shepherds since i was 16 and got into that because my mum was a breeder she gave it up when she had her car accident and could not do much.

I believe all breeders should be in constant contact with there vet and have an emergency number incase of an emergancy and that goes for all pet owners but thats just my opinion.
It is also best to wait till puppies are 8weeks old before having there first shot this depends on the owner and also the vet as to when is best and the place you live.
I make sure all my pets are well looked after as i know how heartbreaking it is to lose a pet thats been in the family for years.
Sorry to have gone on lol

mike
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posted 01-12-2004 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilovemaltipoos     Edit/Delete Message
I had no intention of saying you did not have a vet .I am sorry if you do not ,I am estatically happy if you do . My opinion is ...I prefer having a record for those that get a puppy from me that stands good in all situations and that can only come from a good vet that administers the shots ,docks the tails ,give the exams ,does all he or she can do to make sure that that puppy that goes to a new place has been treated and is in good health.My vet tells me lepto is one of the worse to cause reactions and the type reactions it causes .I used a different vet once and she gave the shots that contain lepto and each puppy had a knot on the neck ,I did not use her again .My vet says lepto caused that and is a reaction that is very common with that type shot.
Also ,I know some people that work in a feed store in a large city here and they say in all the ones they have worked in ,no one puts the shots in the frig for hours on end as they come in ,they sit and wait until they get to them .That is not a good thing for those that go and buy those shots .I ,also know a lady that uses the feed store shots and has had parvo in her puppies several times after giving shots from feed stores even after the third shot ...Cheap shots are cheap shots ,just like cheap food is cheap food and to be taken as such .
To pay a little more ,to spend a little more time is worth it ...after all the pet someone gets from you is for life ...I just hate when that life and the owners also have such cruel endings .And I never meant any statement I make is directed to any certain person ...This is my opinion ...doesn't have to be yours also .

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