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zain786
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posted 01-06-2004 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zain786     Edit/Delete Message
Please Help!
i have a 6 month old border collie and he is very agressive towards shadows. Any shadow makes him go beserk and he starts chasing it growling and barking. its very distressing to see and it is impossible to take him for walks. we have tried to give him treats but they dont work he just isnt interested. does anyone have any ideas on how to help him. thanks

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Nik
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posted 01-06-2004 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nik     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,
My border collie's 5 months almost and does the same thing. It was cute the first time he did it but I quickly reaslised it could be a problem. He only really does it at certain places on his walk and only at night (there's not enough sun around here to make daytime shadows yet lol)... so what I do is distract him just before we get to where he's gonna see them. If I don't catch him in time his fur goes up and he's off barking, but I just walk quickly past so he has to keep up with me and he is getting better.
The treat thing works for me but only if I catch him just before he's about to go at the shadow. Right after he's 'sat' for his treat I say 'ok, good boy' and shoot him off in the other direction (like motion with my hand/arm). Most of the time he has a glance over but he's happy he's had his treat and I'm paying attention to him so he runs on past.
Other than this I have no other solution, sorry.
Good luck

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Jamiya
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posted 01-06-2004 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
You might want to try searching for info on the web, as this is a fairly common problem in border collies.

From what I have read, you will need to use distraction (BEFORE he has lost control) and teach him some sort of self control. Does he know sit/stay? Get him to where he can easily sit/stay for a few minutes with no distractions, and then gradually work up to more and more exciting distractions, with shadows being the biggest distraction of all.

When he does go berserk, try to remain calm and quiet. Maybe try turning him away from the shadows and use your hands to gently sit him down and replace him when he springs back up. Don't yell or jerk widly on the leash or he will just feed off your apparent excitement.

Look for subtle signs that he is going to lose control - ears, eyes, breathing, tail, whiskers, tensed muscles. You MUST catch him BEFORE he loses control if you have any hope of avoiding the behavior.

Make sure he is not bored. Border collies require a LOT of exercise and stimulation or their obsessive behaviors get even worse. Perhaps consider further obedience work or agility training or stockdog training to give him an outlet.

And also be sure you give him an alternative to chasing the shadows. Showing a dog what not to do is all very good, but you must also show him what TO do.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes.


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zain786
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posted 01-22-2004 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zain786     Edit/Delete Message
thanx everybody my border collie has calmed down a lot thanx 2 all ur advice and is as friendly as ever

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Jamiya
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posted 01-22-2004 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
What did you do that ended up working? We'd all like to know!


Jamiya
(LOL, I just re-read my advice and it sounded like I know what I am talking about. I impress me! )

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Maisey
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posted 01-22-2004 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Jimaya!

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