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willoughby New Member  Posts: 1 |
posted 12-02-2003 05:54 PM
 
Hello, We are in our second day of yellow lab parenthood. Willoughby is 49 days old and we are wondering if we should crate him in his area (the kitchen) at night, or bring him to the bedroom. I've seen many contradictory ideas....any help would be appreciated. thanks. Jake Allegrini IP: Logged |
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woodman New Member Posts: 9 |
posted 12-02-2003 06:50 PM
Hi! Speaking as someone who went against the good advice of the kind people here and got the new puppy when the old dog was gone for just a couple of weeks--and as one who knows everything they say about dogs in bedrooms and dominance problems--AND as someone who is dealing with a puppy who at first thought she might just be queen of the world-- we let her sleep in the bed each night after her trip outside in the middle of the night (from her crate in the bedroom)and she's doing just fine learning her place in the household. It's a comfort and joy to all of us, and she's learning pack position in other ways. I'm sure there are very good reasons for not doing what we're doing, but I guess I see it similarly to raising my kid--if it's out of love and everybody's happy, why the heck not? Best, IP: Logged |
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tuttifrutti Member  Posts: 478 |
posted 12-02-2003 07:21 PM
We crate our 6 month old britany, Ranger, every night. He may be able to sleep somewhere else as he gets older, but probably not. His sister, mother and "aunt" are all the same way. Although, his "aunt" and mother will always be in the crates. One of the things about letting them sleep in your bedroom is how do you know that they will not chew anything? They may have to go to the bathroom afterwards, and not let you know. Due to the fact that bedroom doors get open, Ranger has now twice eaten firecrackers. I would highly reccomend having the lab sleep in a crate in the kitchen. IP: Logged |
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NewLabOwnr Member Posts: 169 |
posted 12-02-2003 07:44 PM
We crated Max in his room for probably the first few days maybe a week, and then I just gave up. I felt so bad abandoning him every night (or that's how I saw it), that we let him sleep in our room without the crate. However my husband refuses to allow the dog on the bed. Max was fine with chewing things because we always made sure there was nothing available for him to chew on. I remember back in those days saying my bedroom has never been so clean!! If you feel concerned about your puppy chewing things then I guess yes, leave him in the crate, but maybe you could bring it into your room? IP: Logged |
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Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 12-02-2003 08:10 PM
I am a big supporter of crate training. Yes, it is hard for about a week until they get used to it but they will love their "den" and use it for a safe and quiet place to chew a bone and take a nap. My dogs LOVE their crates. They even play in them! The trick is getting them used to it. He will yell and complain but he will eventually quiet down and grow attached to it. Make sure it isn't too big or he will go potty in one corner and sleep in the other. I think there is an area on this website that goes into the basics of crate training. Believe me it is worth it. I wouldn't let him have full run of the bedroom or any part of the house until he is fully potty trained. Remember that you will have to let him out a few times a night until he is old enough to hold it. The rule of thumb for this is his age plus one so at 2 mos it is every three hours. The crate is great for when you can't find time to watch him or at night for a bed to sleep in. Put a bone and a worn t-shirt that smells like you in with him. We crate the dogs in our room at night so they can sleep with us and I would also do that with your pup. Until he is crate trained, you might not get any sleep at first but it is very comforting for the pup. He is pretty young and he will want to be near his new "mom and dad." You have to hang in there. Good luck with your new pup. [This message has been edited by Karriesue (edited 12-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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MaydaysMom Member Posts: 260 |
posted 12-02-2003 08:43 PM
I would move his crate into the bedroom at night. Dogs are pack animals and dont want to be left in another room while the rest of the pack goes to sleep in another. I always just leave mine in the bedroom. That way they get used to the kennel being their own bed while they are pups and still feel like they are a part of the pack. Now that mine are older and trustworthy they sleep in bed with us but still use their kennels as their own "bedroom" They will go in there to chew on toys, and to just seek solitude when needed.  IP: Logged |
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 12-03-2003 12:39 AM
All three of my dogs are crate trained, I feel it is important for many reasons. I kept the crate in my bedroom next to my side of the bed. I never responded to the pup while it was in the crate having a fit or whining. It didn't take long for them to realize that sitting quietly was the only time the door was going to open for them. The only times they were in their crates were when we were going to be gone from the house and at night while sleeping. As soon as the pups were being consistent in their potty training they were allowed to sleep on the bed with us. We did resort to night time crating at one point with one dog because he started chewing things at night. After about a month he was past that(teething) and once again joined us on the bed. My dogs all asked to go outside in the middle of the night...they would wake up my husband (lol, he swears I trained them to do that). They don't chew things up, they simply sleep with us. We have a doggie bed in our room and sometimes we have them sleep on that, and they do. I don't use my crate to establish household rank...or because I think letting the dog sleep on the bed establishes dominance issues. I rather want them to be able to be crated if it is necessary. Example: Injury, illness, safety etc. When you are not home, your puppy should not be running around the house, they can get into things that will injure them, make them sick, or make you mad. The crate is a safe place for them to be until they mature when you can't supervise them. My youngest dog is a year old now, they are rarely in their kennels, usually when we travel distances, or at a tournament. IP: Logged |
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 12-03-2003 01:01 AM
By the way...Willoughby is an awesome name! IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 12-03-2003 04:05 AM
I think dominance issues only apply if you let them sleep in your bed, although as many have pointed out it's not necessarily the stroke of doom. Having the crate in the bedroom is absolutely fine. That way you can keep an eye on him and also hear if there's a problem. Nala has thrown up in the middle of the night, and when she was smaller I would hear her get up and stretch in the middle of the night and I would immediately take her out to potty. Now she doesn't need to go out during the night, of course! I also used to stick my fingers through the bars when I first got in bed at night, and she would lick them a few times and then lie down. I think it helped to settle her down and realize she was okay.
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annie Member Posts: 68 |
posted 12-03-2003 04:37 AM
Good morning. We crate out puppy, a 12 week old Beagle, in a separate extra bedroom we have in our house. We would enjoy him being in one of our bedrooms that is used by my children or husband and I, but for a few reasons we chose not too. #1 was what if my husband and I were to make noise and wake the puppy up? Then we would have to get up and put him out to go potty, much like people who wake up in the night wont be able to go back to sleep without going potty. Plus what if any of us just couldnt sleep and decided to get up and go downstairs, then that would get the dog all stirred up. It is much much easier for us to have the set up we have and then there are no concerns or worries, and the dog gets a good night's sleep and I can rest easy knowing that no matter what happens in the night, putting the dog out will not have to be one of them. lol He has always been dry all night, and he is sometimes up there about 9 hours. He's never once called to be let out nor wet inside the cage. ann [This message has been edited by annie (edited 12-03-2003).] IP: Logged |
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puggleowner Member Posts: 228 |
posted 12-03-2003 06:27 AM
Wow Annie- that's amazing that your beagle can hold it in all night at 12 weeks. When Cameron was a young puppy, we weren't so lucky! For the reason that most young pups need to go out at least 1-2 times in the night for the first month or so (Cameron went out once in the middle of the night until she was about 5 months), I would suggest keeping the puppy in a crate in your room or a room close by with the door open so it is within ear shot. That way they can let you know if they need to go out, and there is less chance of you finding a mess in the morning! Plus I think it makes it easier to get them used to the crate, because they feel it is a secure place with you around instead of a place they have to stay in plus be away from you. Eventually I think it is fine to keep your puppy crated in another room (we still keep Cameron's crate in our room, we are all happy with that arrangement ), but for now it might work out better to keep the puppy crated in your room- at least it did for us!IP: Logged |
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tuttifrutti Member Posts: 478 |
posted 12-03-2003 06:57 AM
Yeah, Ranger also loves to go and play in his kennel, and he takes naps there, it is like his "room". He won't let anybody but me in it (to clean his ears or something, or to get him out for some reason, he won't let anyone reach in there, is what I mean!) His sister doesn't like it as much, because she spends a lot of time in there, and it is also used as kind've a timeout, which I wouldn't reccomend! IP: Logged |
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honeybear Member Posts: 926 |
posted 12-03-2003 08:21 AM
I vote for crate training an keeping the crate in your room so I f he has to go potty at night, you will know. I have never done it and wish I had. We tried with Jake our Yellow lab. 2 things went wrong - our crate was too big and when he cried my husband brought him to bed, and that is where he has slept the last six years. Now that he is getting older, he sleeps on the floor more because it is getting difficult for him to get on the bed. As for chewing, he did chew things that were left on the floor. My husband always says he would have got a dog sooner if he knew that would get me to pick my stuff off the floor. good luck Honeybear IP: Logged |
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dukesdad Member Posts: 117 |
posted 12-03-2003 08:40 AM
Duke is a two year old yellow Lab and is crate trained, where he stays while we are out. He does sleep on the bed with us at night and will sleep as long as we do. Be warned that Labs do have a great assortment of sighs, groans, and snores that are a constant amusement. [This message has been edited by dukesdad (edited 12-03-2003).] IP: Logged |
Jas Moderator Posts: 536 |
posted 12-03-2003 08:50 AM
Hi & Welcome Willoughby - what a great name! Maisey's post sums it up nicely, we've used a very similar method. We have a couple of dog beds beside ours and a crate in the room. I will crate a pup until they are trust worthy. This is for their safety and save any accidents I miss by being asleep. But I see nothing wrong with having the crate in the bedroom and don't mind an early am snuggly dog coming up on the bed. I'd tend to dismiss the whole dominance notion -- unless, of course, you are the one sleeping on the floor and the dogs taken over the bed IP: Logged |
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Samsintentions Member Posts: 944 |
posted 12-03-2003 08:52 AM
We now crate in the bedroom at night. We used to let Smokey and Charllotte sleep with us, but things ended up chewed, Smokey decided it was HIS territory and marked it often (GRRRRRR), and Charllotte decided I no longer needed to sleep next to HER Daddy! It was a huge mess, now they sleep Krated in the Bedroom unless they want to be outside, which is often. I recomend Crating in the Bedroom, though the puppy yelping and crying may bother you and then you can add a clock or move him/her to a new room. IP: Logged |
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