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MoodyBlue
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posted 11-19-2003 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoodyBlue     Edit/Delete Message
I've been asked to "rescue" these two pups (only about 2-3 weeks old) as their owners can't take care of them. They live in the woods in pretty bad conditions. The pups just came out of hiding yesterday and are unusually aggressive. They growl and bark. Mom is a Chow; don't know the dad but it is probably the Rotweiller who lives next door. The pups are also very fat. The owner picked them up both pups and they just growled, barked and tried to bite (no teeth however). Is this normal behavior for such little puppies? I'm wondering if they are sick and that's why they are so aggressive? I'm afraid to take them from mom since they are so little and dependent. I'm afraid they'll die if left out there. The owner said she believes they are going to be "mean" dogs but I thought mean dogs were typically "made" not born. Any thoughts or suggestions????? THanks!

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Jamiya
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posted 11-19-2003 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
I am going on instinct here, but I know I have read that there is no such thing as an aggressive puppy. Even a truly aggressive dog grows into it as it reaches sexual maturity.

I do believe that some breeds have a tendency toward aggressive behavior, but also that mean dogs are "made" as you said. A breed that is typically aggressive needs to be handled and trained carefully by someone who knows what they are doing. Do some research on Chows and Rotts so you can know what to expect and how to handle it. Have a good trainer lined up for later down the road. Perhaps even enlist the help of a behaviorist early on.

Maybe taking them inside and away from mom might be the best thing, even though they are so small. You would need to be willing to feed them every few hours, though. Small puppies are a LOT of work. But hand feeding them may help them to bond to humans and not be so "aggressive". I think right now the aggressive-seeming behavior is due to fear, not true aggression.

If you do take them in, do research and get advice from people here who have hand-raised pups. Take it slow, and give the pups time to adjust. I bet they will thrive with close attention and the security of being with an able caregiver.


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charmedagain
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posted 11-19-2003 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
I have to agree Agressive dogs are made its the owner who makes them that way they are not born with it....

Hand feeding puppies is very hard work and demanding at 2-3 weeks old they still need to be kept warm and fed a puppy formula every couple of hours.

The agression they are showing sounds like jamiya says this is fear agression so i dont think they have had contact with humans much anyway...

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 11-19-2003 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, My daughter had a chow, he was treated real well, and he was mean. We couldn't understand it! We gave that dog so much love and attention. She got him when he was just 8 weeks old. She ended up having to get rid of him, because of my Grandchildren. I have no idea why he acted the way he did. She had him until he was 8 months old. Sincerely, Susan

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 11-19-2003 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
I don't want to scare you from helping those pups....I just thought you should know that. I know that dogs are made to be mean, so we were perplexed to say the least....Susan

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Jamiya
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posted 11-19-2003 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
I think it is not only that they are made to be mean, but also that they are made to be NOT mean....do you see the difference?

It could be that you did things with your Chow that you weren't aware of how the dog would interpret it. Or you didn't do other things that you never thought of.

With a breed that tends toward aggression, just "treating the dog nice" will not usually cut it. Things like letting it sleep on your bed, for example, may seem nice but you are telling the dog that it is the boss and so then it challenges you. This is just one example of something people don't always realize.

I'm not saying you did anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that sometimes we don't realize what we have done or not done when it comes to a problem with a dog. That's where behaviorists and trainers come into the picture.


Jamiya

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puttin510
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posted 11-19-2003 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
I think the best thing for these pups is to be taken and hand raised. If its possible to bring the mom her too. They are growling becasue they have never been handled by humans probably. They need to be handled often.

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 11-19-2003 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Jamiya, I'm sure you're right. What we should have done was take it to doggy school, but because of the kids, I was the first one to say "get rid of it" those are my grandchildren. The dog did go to a good home, and as far as I know, they don't have any problems with him. So in the end, it all worked out. Susan

P.S. I agree, if you know what your doing, please help those pups.

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