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Glowing
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posted 09-12-2003 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glowing     Edit/Delete Message
I need some advice! I have a 9 month, and an 8 month old pug puppies. They have never been crated, and have run of the kitchen. However, they are STILL peeing and doing their "thing" on the paper. I am SICK to death of cleaning up poop and pee every morning, and every afternoon, and everynight! My house STINKS! I have told my husband I would like to crate them, but I don't want to seperate them during the day. It is not fair, we got two so that they had someone to play with during our long day at work. The other thing is, if we do crate them, it IS a long day. We are gone from 7:30 am, till 6 pm....any suggestions? I am at my wits end!

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jeminn
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posted 09-12-2003 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeminn     Edit/Delete Message
That is a pretty tough situation. Crating that long is too long for your dogs, so I would not do it. It seems that you are doing the only thing you can, given your long work day. Some dogs are better than others at learning to hold it, even when they are in an acceptable place to go, like the kitchen, but there is no way your dogs are going to hold it for what..10 or 11 hours. Maybe some dogs do when they are older, but I would not expect that from your young pugs, and if you are not home to train them and work with them, then this is probably the best you can expect. If you can't change your schedules somewhat then I think you are doing the only thing you can- giving them an acceptable place to go and a playmate to be with while you are gone. Is hiring a pet sitter to come over during the daytime an option?

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fleafly
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posted 09-12-2003 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fleafly     Edit/Delete Message
Crating is a good way to potty train. It would be good if you could have someone come over mid day to early afternoon to let them run a bit so they aren't crated all day. Some dogs take longer to potty train than others. My dog took a long time to get to where he wasn't having any accidents. I asked my uncle who was a dog trainer for law enforcement and he said crating is the best way to potty train them.

You might try to puppy training pads, at least they absorb better than newspaper.

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Glowing
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posted 09-19-2003 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glowing     Edit/Delete Message
I tried the puppy pads, they just EAT them...*l* They eat EVERYTHING!!! My cabinets, my chairs, the paper, paper towels..anything they can find! and the newest thing is one of them is spraying or marking his territory on my brand new fridge, on my stove, my cabinets, in front of the door, and on my table legs!!! I am freaking out! They are scheduled to get fixed the first week of October, but I am afraid which ever one is doing this is already in the "habit"!! *eek* I told my husband that we are going to get not crates, but some kind of pen to put in the kitchen, so they can't get NEAR anything! What do you think?

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nessa1880
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posted 09-19-2003 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nessa1880     Edit/Delete Message
I think getting a pen would be an excellent idea! I have an 8 month old toy poodle that I have had since she was 10 weeks old. I started crating her the first day I had her. The crate is a great potty training and house training tool. I used to have to crate her all day when I was at work, with the exception for a 1 hr lunch break in which I would come home to let her out and feed her lunch. I slowly started giving her more privleges. I also installed a doggie door, which is necessary if you leave your dogs home out of the crate. She doesnt have too many accidents which is great. Also make sure they have plenty of chew toys and bones or whatever you give them. And reward them when you see them chewing on the toys or bones. They will learn that when they have a chewing urge, to use the toys not your house. They are still young enough so you can crate train them. I recommend this to everyone. It is great for so many different reasons. Well I hope you are successful in whatever you do. Remember they are puppys and dont always know what they are doing wrong even though they act like they do sometimes.

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Jamiya
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posted 09-19-2003 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
You mentioned not wanting to separate them - you could get a crate large enough for the both of them to be in. We used to have two terriers and their crate was large enough for them both as adults - the same one our new puppy barely fits in by herself!

If you want to go the paper route, whether in the kitchen as a whole or in a pen if you get one, then what I have been told is that you paper the WHOLE floor for a while. Supposedly, they will start picking one place to go, primarily. I have never tried it so I don't really know if that is true. The theory is, that once they are going in a certain spot, you GRADUALLY remove the other papers until you only have them down in that one spot. And I mean GRADUALLY - like one paper every few days or so. If they start making mistakes, you back up and try again.

Without you there to "catch them in the act" I would imagine the process needs to go even more slowly.

Make sure you are using an enzymatic cleaner when they have accidents on the floor so the smell does not attract them to do it again in that spot.

They say dogs learn to go on certain surfaces, so once they learn to go on paper they will prefer to always go on paper if possible. The same with grass. Which is also why the more accidents they are allowed to have on the linoleum, the more they are learning that linoleum is a nifty place to go (hence papering the WHOLE floor).

My sister's Golden, by the time she was a year (or less), was totally reliable. My sister could go out all day and leave her unattended with the run of the house and she would hold it without a problem. The only time she ever had an accident was when she had a bladder infection.

Now my sister only allows her and the other 2 dogs in the laundry room/bathroom when they are unattended, because the other 2 are old and sometimes have accidents.


Jamiya

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Glowing
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posted 09-19-2003 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glowing     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you everyone for your input. I think I am going to have to go the pen route. I just feel that crating for that long is TOO long, I am also looking into having someone come in a few days a week to take them for a walk, can't afford everyday though. My niece DOES come over most days after school, but she just lets them out onto the porch (which is fine) but I think having someone come in a few times a week to walk them will be good for them also. For the most part, they do go on the paper, but seeing as it is a long day, and they do their stuff, I think once the paper gets wet, they want another area, hence...the floor. Ah well, they are puppies..and hopefully they will learn! Thank you again!

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