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tiggypep unregistered |
posted 08-06-2003 11:51 AM
the vet thinks my young lab (1 1/2 years old) has exercise induced myopothy or collapse. after chasing her ball which she loves more than life she will sometimes be unsteady, sometimes be unable to get up for a while, and it takes her foreve to recover. the vet said there really wasn't anything to do about it except cut out the exercize which with a young lab is almost impossible! we haven't tried a heart monitor yet-not that money is more important but we've already spent a fortune on tests and don't know if the heart monitor is worth it. plus she seems to be undergoing personality changes-not for the better. a dog that once loves everyone will sometimes for no reason snap at them, and she is becomming unreliable. we love her dearly and wonder if anyone else out there has had this problem and have they found a solution? IP: Logged |
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honeybear Member  Posts: 926 |
posted 08-06-2003 01:10 PM
I am kind of confused does she have a heart problem that was caused by the exhaustion and needs to be monitered, or do you just want to moniter after she plays to see what her heart rate is. As a responsible pet owner, you should know when to call it quits or even start playing for that matter. I have a similar situation with my dog, she would literally kill herself (or to put it I would kill her) from exhaustion from too much playing fetch. She just wont stop. I can tell when she needs to stop, her pannting becomes excessive, her tongue rolls to the side. I just have to ignore her, like last week when it was 110+ for days. I didnt even start and made her come in the house. As for the change of behavior, I dont have an answer for that. Has something changed in your household,that might have her snipping. and you also mentioned she is unrealiable, but didnt explain why. Honeybear IP: Logged |
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jjami57690 Member Posts: 102 |
posted 08-06-2003 04:15 PM
tiggypep is a good friend of mine that i have encouraged to come to this board and post her questions with the hope that someone may have had experience with this myopathy or knows someone else who has. this is not a case of over-exercising the dog. this dog is a year & 1/2 old and was able to play and romp like any dog up until a month or so ago when suddenly the least little bit of exercise wore her out and she would literally collapse. along with this came a personality change. she nipped her owner which she had never done (this happened one time and it has thankfully not happened since) and began to growl at people--she never had a history of that either. there have been many tests and several vets consulted but the results have been disappointing. instead of learning what IS wrong the tests have shown what is NOT wrong if that makes sense. the heart monitor is the last step to rule out heart disease. the internet has some information on canine myopathy but we're hoping someone has dealt with it first hand or knows a little about it. [This message has been edited by jjami57690 (edited 08-06-2003).] IP: Logged |
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honeybear Member Posts: 926 |
posted 08-07-2003 08:21 AM
jjami, thanks for the clarification on her situation. I apoligize If offended her in any way. UC Davis has a wonderful vet program, if she is on the west coast, I think there is one on the east coast too. The way you describe it, it sounds like when people get clogged arteries, all of the sudden they have no energy. Has she had an EKG done. Dont know if you have seen this web site but hopefully it can help http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00034.htm Good luck IP: Logged |
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jjami57690 Member Posts: 102 |
posted 08-07-2003 07:06 PM
no offense taken, i just didn't want people to think she over over-exercising the dog herself and being a new comer i didn't know if she would speak up. thanks for the link honeybear. its pretty full of medical talk, but maybe tiggypep can make more of it than i can. it sounds like a pretty rare condition and for my friends sake i hope they find some other answers. like all of us on the board this is her baby and its driving her crazy. she has read on a few sites that sudden death can occur and of course this is her fear. plus all the tests are very expensive so... IP: Logged |
RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 480 |
posted 08-08-2003 10:46 AM
Have they done a brain scan on this dog. Withthe fact that it is collapsing and also with the mood changes happening at the same time. Im wondering if it is something withthe brain possibly a tumor. Just some thoughts. I would go the brain route before I went the heart route. It sounds like there is more than just a dog collapsing as if that isnt bad enough. Good luck with your baby and keep us posted and Welcome to Auspets IP: Logged |
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jt New Member  Posts: 2 |
posted 09-09-2003 04:19 PM
Do a search at www.google.com for "exercise induced collapse." Read, especially, the papers by Dr. Taylor at U. Saskatchewan, Saskatoon. jt IP: Logged |
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micahquinn unregistered |
posted 09-10-2003 01:16 PM
I have recently adopted a 1 yr old lab mix. When she exercises too much, after 5-10 min she will show signs of weakness in her hindlegs. Evently if she is not stopped she will collapes and recover in 20 min. I have taken her to a vet but they are not sure what to think and say i should take a conservative approach. So this is defintley something that I can understand. I do not think you should rule out all activity but it should be kept to 5 minutes tops stinuous activity. When your dog start to show signs, halt her activity. If anyone knows what causes this I would be grateful! symptoms include: hind leg paraylsis, heavy panting with tounge handing to side, loss of bowl control. After any heavy activity over 5 min! IP: Logged |
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jt New Member Posts: 2 |
posted 10-02-2003 02:08 PM
micahquinn, looks like classic EIC. see the post above yours. jt IP: Logged |
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wasabi unregistered |
posted 10-15-2003 03:23 PM
Sounds like your dog definitely has Exercise Induced Collapse. My lab has had these same episodes. The first one was a couple years ago. She is five now. She will collapse after about 5 - 10 minutes of fetching. After she collapses she will try to still fetch and move with her front legs. It is heart breaking. She has had this happen about five or six times. One thing I have noticed that helps is to completely wet her with the hose. The episode seems to end much sooner. I think they are getting over heated and need to be cooled down as soon as possible. She had an episode today which is why I thought I would do more research to see if there is any new information. She hadn't had an episode in a long time, but toay was definitely hotter than normal. But we live in San Diego, so it never gets too hot here. . Hopefully, your lab likes water. When I turn the hose on she is very happy and just rolls around in the water. I hope this is helpful. Some days she seems to almost self monitor herself and will lay down before she gets to that point. It's so hard when all they want to do is fetch. I have also noticed that if you touch a certain part of her hind legs she will growl slightly which she has never done before. IP: Logged |
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candyapplekc Member Posts: 13 |
posted 01-11-2004 05:14 AM
Tiggypep-My 2 yr. old lab was diagnosed with Involuntary Collapse. When she first started having these "spells", I thought she was only getting over-heated while playing fetch. We started exercising before I went to work in the mornings, when it was cold outside. The collapse just got worse and more frequent over time. When she goes into a collapse, she will start to sway, wander aimlessly, excessive panting, foaming at the mouth, her inner ears are very hot & bright red, she will eventually fall to the ground and I will have to literally pick/drag her to the house. Her heart is beating so hard that I can actually see her chest wall thumping. This happens if it is 80* outside, or -10 below zero. Outside temps seem to make little difference. Our vet told us that this is potentially life threatening. Now we only exercise for a few minutes a day. I don't know, sometimes I don't know what is more cruel-allowing her to run herself into a life-threatening spell, or forcing her into a sedatary lifestyle. IP: Logged |
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candyapplekc Member Posts: 13 |
posted 01-11-2004 05:28 AM
Tiggypep-I forgot to mention. Go to www.thelabradorclub.com. Click on library, they will have a link to a very long & informative article on exercise induced collapse. Good Luck. IP: Logged |
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