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Lucky
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posted 07-16-2003 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky     Edit/Delete Message
Hello,

Just wondering if anyone out there has ever given another pet owner unsolicited advice and how the other owner took it.

I have a neighbor who has three young kids and has had a rotty/dobie cross puppy who is starting to bite and go after other kids in the neighborhood. I've heard she's worried about this behavior. I also know that the dog is not crate trained and I suspect that it is getting the impression that it is dominant in the pack of kids. I've been doing so much reading about dogs lately I want to tell her what I know about stopping dominance now, before the dog (which is getting bigger and bigger every day) gets too hard to handle and ends up in a shelter.

What do you think? Is it worthwhile being a pushy, nosey neighbor and giving advice?. I don't know the lady very well and that's why I'm hesitating.

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Maisey
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posted 07-16-2003 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I am sometimes pushy...lol, so I would wait until she is out in her yard etc. and then over the fence start talking to her about other things, bring the conversation around to your dogs...and hers. Here you have a choice, either be upfront and straight forward, telling her that you understand/have heard she has concerns and you have been doing alot of reading on the topic and would be happy to share what you have learned...OR...you can do the same but maybe by mentioning your own dog has caused you some worries so you have been doing research and have been able to manage it with these techniques. It would be more like you telling her how you handled your own and hoping she gets a clue. Of course this is just what I would do...I'm never able to just leave things be, especially when it involves an animal. Good Luck!

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LivinLabs
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posted 07-16-2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LivinLabs     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah! What Maisey said!

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RottyMommy

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posted 07-16-2003 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RottyMommy     Edit/Delete Message
As the owner of 2 rottweilers both rescues and involved with rottweiler rescues. I know how they are. They are fabulous dogs but usually at some point in their life try the dominant game. When this happens you have two choices. Either correct it then or deal with alot more work later which can result in having an uncontrolled dog. Rottweilers are stubborn but want nothing more than to please you. Dobermans as far as I know have a more protective nature but are more easily trainable. With the mix of the two you have to set rules down or that dog will walk all over her. No dog is untrainable. I have a 3 year old rotty right now who was never trained and allowed to get away with everything. Now except with a few issues that still need resolved she is a fabulous dog. She now knows basic commands. Neither of my dogs have bitten other people. My 3 year old has bitten us but only because she resource guards and my fiance decides to play tough guy sometimes and as a result Daisy bites. But she has never broken skin. This dog needs trained now! Or that dog is going to bite the wrong person's kid, the dog will be labeled vicious and ultimately destroyed. Which just goes back on the whole rottweiler stereotype that many like to hold true. If I was you I would tell the lady flat out. Your dog needs training, your dog is biting kids, and one of these days your dog is going to bite someone, its gonna be reported, your dog will be labeled vicious and your dog will be put down. Its that simple. The lady either needs to step up to the responsibility of owning that dog or find someone that will. Sorry for rambling but I see the ending of this story all too many times and the dog is the only one that suffers.

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Jas

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posted 07-16-2003 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lucky, its great that you are a concerned neighbor. Do you know for certain that the dog has started to bite and go after other neighborhood kids? Have you seen this or is this sort of the word around the block? Only reason I ask is that sometimes someone will say something and things get twisted & changed... you know how it goes. So I would want to be sure before talking to the neighbor. If you know it is a fact you could voice your concerns about the safety of kids around her dog (nicely) and then I would ask her how she finds raising her kids and dog - is it lots of work? Ask her: Do you need a hand? Tell her you know a great dog trainer (if you do) and some excellent training techinques...etc.

I also like what Maisey has said.

Its worth bringing up because this is exactly how things can go wrong when the owner is busy with young kids, work, raising a dog and daily tasks. We've taken many rescue dogs in due to this exact scenerio. Owners decided its too much to take on, what once was a small pup has now grown into an unruly large dog, and if the dog has bitten - the fate of the dog is almost certainly determined.

good luck, let us know how it goes!

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Lucky
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posted 07-16-2003 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

Thanks for the good ideas. I haven't seen the dog being aggressive and I have heard only the rumours. Altho' I have noticed it won't let kids do things like pat it on the head, it never rolls on its back for a tummy scratch and it does mouth a lot.

I think I'll first try to approach the issue delicately, in a round about way before I do anything else. We both have puppies, so it shouldn't be too hard. Their dog is beautiful! But I am noticing that the kids are not bringing it out to play as much as they used to. This family had...and got rid of... another dog a couple of years ago so, I do want to try to help somehow!

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puttin510
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posted 07-17-2003 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe send her some info about train dogs so's not have an agro dominate dog on her hands. Send it annonimously and write from a worried person in the neighborhood. Type it. Make it seem personal to her so she will read it, not like junk mail. Just a thought.

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Lucky
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posted 07-29-2003 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Everyone!

Just wanted to post a follow up to this message. I've talked to my neighbour and to her kids and everything seems to be just fine. Turns out what I heard may have just been one of those nasty neighbourhood rumours. Anyway, the neighbour puppy and my puppy have been playing together lately and they are so cute to watch. I've now had lots of talks with my neighbour and they are really open to discussing different puppy raising techniques.

The male rotty X is definitely the alpha puppy, but he has a great temperament and they are really careful to make sure his biting is discouraged. I think everything will be fine!!!!

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