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Ami
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posted 06-03-2003 12:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I have had my Schnauzer (Lambo) for about a year. He is 14mo old. I have 2 small children and Lambo has never bit them or even tried. On Friday he ran out the front door and there were 2 boys playing with my son, Lambo ran right up to one and bit him twice. The child he bit is 9yrs old and was doing nothing wrong. I'm now wondering what I should do with my Dog. I love him and my Children do to. I'am now afraid if he gets out again he will bit someone else. What should I do?

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Maisey
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posted 06-03-2003 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I have a Poodle, I got him when he was about 7 months old. The lady who had him had a son that was abusive to him and she abandoned him at a boarding facility. He has from the day I got him been afraid of people sitting on him, and he does not trust nor like boys. He seems to only take issue with boys..adults and girls are fine. He has bit two neighborhood boys, the first time was in my own home and the boy was teasing him by placing his face close to the dogs over and over, the dog warned him by growling, and the boy was told to move away from him, as I went to go get the dog to move him, the kid did it one more time and my dog bit him in the face. Now this kid had been warned many times, the dog was scolded and removed from the room, but honestly, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the kid, and neither did his mother. The second time was my two girls playing in the backyard with some friends, one of which was a boy about 10 years old. I had the dog in the house with me, one of the kids left the patio door open and when the little boy came around the corner into the backyard, the dog ran out after him, he only bit his shoe, so no injury, but he meant to. It isn't ALL boys that he finds threatening, but we take no chances anymore, if the kids are playing, the dog goes into my bedroom and the door is shut. When we have people over, if a boy is in the mix...same thing he goes to the bedroom. He actually seems more relaxed, as if it is an escape for him. He is very loving and affectionate with everyone else, so we have had no other problems. I would suggest removing your dog from the situation. When the kids are playing, put him in a bedroom. In our state, one dog bite and your dog can be taken by the pound, kept until a court date, and put down..all at your expense. We were lucky that didn't happen and have made sure it won't happen again.

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puttin510
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posted 06-03-2003 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
something about poodles, my miniature poodle just doesn't like any kids. My boys are 13 and 15 so they know pretty much to leave her alone. But couch issues. My poo will fight over the couch. Sounds like another kid huh. My boys will tease her at times, she know she should not bite so she makes herself look offensive and acts as though she will by snapping at the hand but not actually biting. This is her now. She was a basket case when I first got her. She would lunge at anyone including me. I had to show her who was boss, and yes I took a few hard bites, one on the lip. But I am not giving up on her, she was abused and deserved another chance. She is so much better. She does not run out to bite people though. She would run out to say hello, but if they get to into her she may get defensive. She is tempermental as they say. I too would put her in my room when needed.

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Maisey
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posted 06-03-2003 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
The embarassing part about all of that...the boy that my Poodle chased is one of six kids in a Russian family that lives around the corner from us. Our families have become friends. About a month before that incident, the two oldest girls in that family and my two girls were walking around the block and a loose large breed dog attacked them. neither of my girls were touched...but the other two who had immediately ran screaming were both bitten several times on the arms and buttocks, the dog was taken away and put down. I had a friend of mine who is a 4-H leader with a dog group come and do a sort of safety class with all the neighborhood kids. Wouldn't you know it was my little pain in the hiney who caused trouble next.
I understand his issues, the boy he lived with for almost the first year of his life, sat on him, hung him by the ears and tail, kicked him, and I am sure many other rotten, horrible things. I don't expect less of him behavior wise...but I understand his fears and dislikes and try to ease them. He is nine now..getting up there.

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Jas

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posted 06-03-2003 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
Ami -- you mean your dog ran straight out the door and b-lined toward that boy and bit him for no reason at all? How did your dog act toward the other boy that was there? Any signs that he was going to bite him also?

What were the boys doing outside? Were they being noisy? Do you think there was any noise or yelling that your dog mistook as noises harming your son? Do you think this set your dog into protection mode?

I know yelling and rough play of children often catches the interest of young dogs and excites them.

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Ami
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posted 06-03-2003 10:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
My dog ran right out the front door, and right at the one boy and bit him. The dog showed no intrest in the other boy at all. The boys and my son were riding skateboards.

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Jas

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posted 06-04-2003 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
That is really strange Ami. Has your dog had a lot of socialization and exposure to people and other animals? Also how hard were the bites? Did they break the skin? Some dogs are mouthy and grabby - often interpreted as biting when its not. After the "bites" what did the dog do?

I would keep a close eye on him and call a trainer or behaviorist and have them observe/evaluate your dog. In the mean time keep him leashed at all times (as im sure you will)

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puttin510
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posted 06-04-2003 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
I can totally sympathize with you Maisey. To have a dog go thru traumatizing things. It is usually only possible to improve the way the dog acts slightly. Or at to have the dog live at a comfortable standard. As with us, Sasha has learned to trust most everyone in our household. She puts up with my teenage boys. I know she has gone thru something bad in her life and I seriosly don't have high expectations for her. To me she is the best she will get and its no problem to me to have to watch her and warn others not to touch. I know you probably feel the same as I do. Those poor Russian children were feeding giving off fear signals, that probably why they were attached. To have that happen to a kid its hard to change that in them. Their parents are the ones that should have gotten used to pets as young kids. Hopefully their additudes towards dogs will change and they don't go thru life that way. Your kids are well rounded and have been taught not to fear dogs. It makes a big difference. I truly don't think a specialist could help my dog but thats ok with me. I guess I am fortunate she does not run out to bite.

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