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Pug
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posted 04-17-2003 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pug     Edit/Delete Message
Hello all

I have a question for you all?

I have a 16 month old pug that is a house dog. I have 13 more of them that I have turned a storage building in to a dog house for, these are the ones that I breed and sale.
My question is for the one that I keep in the house. She is a very well trained dog when it comes to obediance. She listens to just about every command we give her but she also sleeps at the foot of my water bed and we all know that sharp puppy nails and water beds do not agree with each other but I can not no matter how hard I try get her to let me trim her nails. I do NOT want to be forcefull with her because I do not believe in hitting a dog for doing wrong because that will cause some dogs to lose trust in there owners. When I am working with her I only use a whisle and a good firm voice as I have found it is twice as affective for this breed although I cannot speak for all breeds on that part. Some dogs may not respond to a whisle and a command the way a pug does. So does anyone have any advice on getting her to trust me enough to let me clip her nails?????

Please any advice will be very appreciated.

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goob
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posted 04-17-2003 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
Does she have a problem with you just touching her feet? If she does, you need to start there, squeezing them, holding them, pulling on them, singling out toes, anything you might do when you're clipping. Once she's comfortable with you playing with her feet, you can start just touching the clippers to them, not actually clipping anything. Do this until she'll let you do at least one foot. Then, try clipping just one nail. If she lets you, praise, treat, and stop there. You may want to have someone hold her while you do it, or distract her with something (when I was working with one of our dogs on this, I used peanut butter gobbed on a plate stuck to the wall... they licked it off while I clipped). If she won't let you, then go back and work with her more on being handled. If she seems completely comfortable with all the other stuff, just not with the nail actually being clipped, you may just have to have someone hold her while you clip, and deal with her carrying on. Or you could take her in and have the vet or groomer do them once a month. What type of clippers are you using? The ones with only one blade can smash the nail bed between the blade and side, causing pain, so it's better to use the ones with two blades, and makes sure they're sharp. You may also want to look into some of the alternatives to clipping... sanding (with a dremel or similar small power tool), or filing (for dogs who freak out at loud noises, or owners who are inept with tools ). I dremel all our dogs nails, and though some weren't too happy with it at first, they've all learned to tolerate it, and one even uses it as an extra naptime. It also gets their nails smoother and shorter than clipping does.

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Malteseof2003
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posted 04-17-2003 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malteseof2003     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Goob, on how to clip "n" cut your doggie's nails! =)

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Trina
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posted 04-17-2003 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trina     Edit/Delete Message
Try to pet his feet as often as you can to gain his trust. If that doesnt work get a mild sedative from your local vet and this should work. I once had a yorkie that done this and I just had my daughter hold her firmly while I held her foot and clipped. Talking softly yet firmly as I went about my business. She submitted after a couple of times and will sit quietly now and have her nails cut. But that was a yorkie and you are talking pug, so I would go with the sedative. Good luck, I know this gets frustraing.

[This message has been edited by Trina (edited 04-17-2003).]

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shmoopie
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posted 04-17-2003 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmoopie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pug,

I am a bit concerned about you saying you breed and sell pugs, but don't know how to handle a dog that is fearful of having it's feet touched.

I volunteer at a shelter where many dogs are euthanized. I try very hard to help in any way I can in re homing, training and socializing the dogs. It breaks my heart when I hear people are breeding to make money. I have never seen a pug at the shelter and know they are very hard to get, but just want to know what your main reason is for breeding? Do you health test? Do you have contracts with the people whom you sell the dogs to?

The Pit Bull was once a very respectful animal, but since BYB have stared breeding them look whats happened to the breed...really think about what your doing.

I would really like to know a bit more before I get into this.

Please help me understand why you are breeding these dogs? Thanks

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puttin510
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posted 04-17-2003 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Goob and Trina about their technics of clipping nails. But what I am wondering is how long you have been breeding? Is this just a sudden thing or have you been doing it for awhile. If so a breeder should know how to handle every aspect of taking care of their breed in question.This is where I agree with Docs post. Some dogs just don't like their feet being touched. Do as they told you and it should be fine. Sometimes you need to use your status as the alpha person and remind them who is boss. In a kind manner of course. Sometimes having to firmly hold the paw and take care of business. All the while reassuring the pet that all is fine.

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fluff
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posted 04-17-2003 04:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well...I am for tough love myself.

If you can get some one to help you hold her, I would put fold up a towl and make a "brace for her neck, to keep it imobile and from biting, just in case. Then have some one hold her under their arm with the town in the other hand...and simply do the nails. She will most likely scream and hollar and carry on, you must remain calm, not abusive. Show her she has nothing to fear. Usually dogs like this calm after the first set of toes, then by the second leg are only watching, by the fourth leg they are still stiff but no longer hyperventalating and by the time you get to the last leg they have almost completely given in. After you do the nails, reward her with praises and maybe some peanut butter on a spoon. Many dogs come into my groom shop that have never had their nails done and this method has worked 99% of the time, except with severly aggressive biters. Usually once they see their feet are not going to fall off they calm down. After a couple of times, most are easy to handle. The difficult part will be hanging onto the pug (as I swear they make themselves greased) and not letting her pop out of your grasp.

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Pug
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posted 04-17-2003 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pug     Edit/Delete Message
Doc Helladay
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Let me tell you something you smartass Im sure I have forgotten more about these dogs then you will ever know, I was just wanting some suggestions because I have never seen any dog of any breed that is this sencitive with his/her feet so take your unregistered ass and your bad attitude and post some where else.

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Pug
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posted 04-17-2003 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pug     Edit/Delete Message
It was a simple question if you can not give a simple answer then keep it zipped.

You all would know what I am talking about if only knew how sencative she really is.

I have bred and sold these dogs for 4 years and my mom has done it for 9 so you answer you smart comments yes we can handle these dogs but like I said I refuse to be forcefull with a small dog and any one who will is ignorant.

[This message has been edited by Auspetian (edited 04-24-2003).]

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goob
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posted 04-18-2003 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
It won't hurt the dog to have someone restrain it while you cut it's nails if you can't do them any other way. Better than having it's nails curl under and back into its foot, or growing out to the point that it ends up with foot problems because of it.

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Fluff
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posted 04-18-2003 08:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I too breed and show dogs. I also have a small breed that can be...well...a bit stuborn. They can over-react about everything. I use the towel restraint method on them. It works and it doesn't hurt the dog if you get help and do it correctly. Sometimes dogs just have to be SHOWN that its not going to hurt them. Some dogs are too smart to play the footsie game and then be convinced to allow you to clip their nails...in many cases this is the *only* way. I have clipped, litterall, THOUSANDS of dog's toe nails. When you own a commercial grooming shop that is an easy thing to do! I have clipped EVERY type of dog toe nail you can imagine (just about) and been faced with every type of temperament. I think I have just a *little* bit of experience on this topic...and I am telling you, if you will stick to your guns, use that method, most likely after the first time...she won't act that way any more. And it may honestly be a case of you not being able to do her nails and having to get some one else to do them...she may have gotten your sympathy card and will deal it out every time.

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Russ
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posted 04-19-2003 05:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Try letting the dogs play on concrete. Walk them on it and play with them on it, the concrete will wear down the nails.

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Christine
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posted 04-22-2003 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christine     Edit/Delete Message
I have a 2 year old pomeranian that I have had since she was 4 months old. She has never liked her feet being touched and anytime I have tried to clip her nails, she has wiggled so much that it is impossible. I was afraid that she would break one of her little legs or I would cut the nails too close to the quick (sp?) so now I take her to the dog groomer once a month and it is a two person job even for them!! She still puts up a fight but at least it is getting done safely. Good luck with your little one! You are not alone!!!

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