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Malteseof2003 Member  Posts: 99 |
posted 03-31-2003 09:49 PM
 
Ok, on my previous posts, I've said how I had to put my puppy down because of Parvo. So heres what I need to know; I'm getting my puppy june 1st (give or take a few days) and he will be 12 wks, have the 3 sets of shots/vacinations...And we will clean the carpet with bleach/water.. (not to mention I sprayed our front and back porches with bleach water mix. So do you think he will be ok? I would like to hear some thoughts. Oh yeh he will be a Maltese! IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 04-01-2003 05:31 PM
NO this will not be okay. Parvo remains dormant for 6 months to 2 years. I have seen and heard of many dogs catching Parvo AFTER they have been given the shot for it...so your not safe there either. Bleeching is not a guarantee and you can't possibly bleech everywhere the pupy has been. Get an adult dog or wait atleast 6 months, unless you want to see another dog die from that terrible disease. Think! IP: Logged |
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pup lover unregistered |
posted 04-01-2003 08:08 PM
you said a puppy can get parvo after getting the shot for it?my puppy just got the shot 3 weeks ago.can he get it from the shot or does it come from another dog?i don't know much about parvo but i don't want anything to happen to my baby. IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 04-02-2003 12:46 PM
Well, I haven't herd of any dogs getting sick from Parvo because of the shot; however, many things are possibly....3 weeks now it would have already shown up. Parvo is a very sad disease. I have seen and herd of many dogs catching parvo after they have been treated for it. What I mean by this is they contact the disease directly from an infected dog or they catch it directly from a spot the infected dog has spread saliva, feces or blood. Don't worry about it....if your dog has been treated 3 weeks ago, you are safe as it would have already shown up. I persoanlly have found the Pit Bull breed to be more susseptable to it for some strange reason; I have not heard much about other breeds so don't worry, it is rare that a dog catches it after they have been treated for it. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 04:33 PM
What about my baby? (maltese) when I get him at 12 wks old can he catch it? IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 04-02-2003 05:02 PM
Malteseof2003, A responsible dog owner would not go out and get another puppy, put it in the exact environement and expect it not to catch Parvo...i would suggest you wait the 6 months, then consider getting a puppy....or move to a different place..I dunno But I do know it is not safe to bring a puppy into a Parvo contaminated environment even if it's had shots to protect against the disease. Maybe Goob could answer...seems to be very Vet Educated? IP: Logged |
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puttin510 Member Posts: 1179 |
posted 04-02-2003 05:18 PM
I have to agree. The parvo sickness can lay dormant for a couple of years. Puppies can get into alot of places in a home that you may not have been able to bleach. I would talk to a vet. Please don't bring a new pup into the envirorment until you are 100% sure. Small dogs especially get hit much faster. Be careful IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 05:26 PM
FIRSTLY shmoopie DO NOT CALL ME UNRESPONSIBLE! Secondly, we have been bleeching, and cleaning, and then disinfecting with stuff that is suppose to kill PARVO! Thirdly the test came up very little postitive on the test, and parvo will come up little on many diseases, even when they do not even have parvo! And then lets think about this... I'm a teenager....I CAN'T JUST UP AND MOVE! And then again, he was only here a few days, so its not like he spread it EVERYWHERE! And yes he will have shots, and then I'll even take him to get the 16 wk old shot, to be safe! Please, do not tell me wether to get a new puppy or not, I've been really heartbroken lately and I don't need this crap. I do appreciate the help and thought into this, just not to be told that what I'm doing is NOT responisible. *if thats the case, neither is my mom, nor sister* IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 05:28 PM
Oh yeh! We have lab puppies, that are 6-7 wks old, and they were in the house while the puppy was sick, because we didn't know what was wrong with him, and they are HEALTHY as can be. And they were here after he was put down. (and still HEALTHY) IP: Logged |
RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 480 |
posted 04-02-2003 06:19 PM
I am sure schmoopie was not trying to say that you are necessarily irresponsible she was jsut saying that if someone brings a puppy into an parvo contaminated environment you are taking the chance of your new pup contacting parvo. and it is a unnecessary chance to take that i am sure is all she was saying as far as you having other puppies in the house all I can say is you got lucky I know people that have lost more than one dog because of one having parvo. Please dont subjsct this puppy to the possibility of it getting parvo. you asked for out advice if you didnt want it than you shouldnt have asked I am sorry if any or this offended you we are only trying to help. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 06:41 PM
I'm sorry if I seemed rude, I'm just emotional right now! And besides, I don't think he really had parvo, and he didn't walk everywhere in the house, and when a little poop got on the carpet...my mom said she cleaned it up and put bleach on most of the spots when it did happen...I'm going to have faith that he will be ok... And I believe he will. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 06:46 PM
OH yeh, it will be like 3 months also. So there is like 3 months from the time the puppy was here to the new one will be here! =) IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 04-02-2003 07:22 PM
I was definatley not saying you are irresposible....your here asking and that shows great responsibility! Be careful, listen to the advise being given. When my dog had parvo we tested for it and it came back negative!!!!!! Please don't be so touchy. When you say your mom cleaned up the poop off the carpet and put bleach on "some" of the spots, then yes i would consider it irresponsible to subject a puppy to that. Also, I'm not telling you these things to offend you or upset you, I am simply giving you advise you need to do the right thing. After seeing how much my dog suffered from Parvo there would be no way I would take a chance of putting another dog through that! Be reasonable, don't be selfish. If you need a dog that bad there are plenty at the pound. If you don't want to take in a dog from the pound then I SUGGEST, not tell you, maybe become a volunteer, foster a dog or go dog walking. Again these are suggestions I am not telling you directly to do anything. i am giving you advise plain and simple. Not telling you what to do. [This message has been edited by shmoopie (edited 04-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 04-02-2003 07:55 PM
Parvo can also be tracked into the house on your shoes (or bare feet if you like wandering around "hillbilly style"  ), the infected puppy's paws, or the paws of any other animals that goes in and out of the house or came in contact with his "poo". So it's not enough to bleach only the places where you know he "poo'ed", or only the places where he spent a lot of time.... you have to disinfect everything, and even then it's still not 100% safe to think there's no germs left. The puppy's first two, or even three parvo vaccs may not take if it's still protected by it's mothers antibodies, so you have to be sure it's had it's entire series of puppy vaccs (even after that, you may still want to have him titer tested to check the # of antibodies he has against the disease). There's always the risk that your dog will get a bad dose of the vaccs, and they won't take, so you can never be sure your dog is protected against the disease (titer testing will show whether they are or not, but is expensive, and not all vets will do it). I personally wouldn't bring a dog under a year old into a house where another dog had recently had a disease even THOUGHT to be parvo... to much of a chance for me. Why not get a young adult dog from the breeder, or wait a while like the others suggested? IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 04-02-2003 07:57 PM
Also, the lab pups were probably still under the protection of the antibodies they received from their mother's milk. The dog you get will not be, and the vaccs he has gotten/will get are not 100% effective (especially if he hasn't had the entire series). IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 08:02 PM
Shmpoopie do you think my mom is irresponislbe for putting bleach on it now? Ok you are confusing me if u think I'm responsible or not. Anyhow...I talked to my friend who had a puppy that HAD PARVO, and they bleached and washed bedding, and got another dog, (toy breed) and she is just fine, and is now 4 yrs old... So thanks for helping, but on spring break, me and my mom and sister are going to CLEAN really WELL and bleach and wash bedding, and bleach porch and everything else...And then in a couple months after that I will get a dog. And I'm confessing him to be FINE! IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 08:05 PM
oh yeh, He will have the ALL the shots he can get at that age, and then again I will ALSO get him one at 16 wks to be safe. Plus our labs were not being nursed, maybe once every 2 weeks for very little time. They were on formula, and then eating just puppy food/ with water on it. So thats not excuse for the labs.... And I heardlabs can catch it easily. AND these are so CUTE and HEALTHY as can be! IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 08:13 PM
Oh-yeh the "main" guess at what he had was coccidia. And I know that it is not hard to get rid of! IP: Logged |
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danelover unregistered |
posted 04-02-2003 08:27 PM
Okay now i'm confused,,the vet guessed at what was wrong with your dog? Was the dog even treated before it was put down? IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 08:45 PM
ok here is the thing... He was diagnosed with coccidia. (something that cant be trated) They gave us albon which is something that stops the parasites from growing and reproducing. The own immunity has to get strong enough to kill the parasites. We had been giving him albon, and doing exactly what the vet told us to. well in a few days we wasn't beter so we took him to the emergency vet and gave him a fluid shot, well a day or so later he still wans't better so my mom sister and aunt took him back and they did some tests. Well "parvo" showed up very low positive, so they weren't quite sure if it was parvo, or coccidia or whatever else it could of been. Anyhow there still was a chance he would die, even if we paid like 5-2000 $$$$ on I.V's and intensive care, and we could just not afford that. So my sister mom and aunt decided that he was in so much pain that he would have ot be put down. So that was it. To this day I still miss him. He is burried out under a tree. =( but that is pretty much the story. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 04-02-2003 09:01 PM
If at any time the pups were eating from their mother, they got antibodies from that. I believe that the antibodies are in the "first" part of the mother's milk, and that usually the pup "gets" them when they nurse for the first time. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 09:06 PM
I'm happy! I just read many websites that clearly stated that in " indoor infected areas" you can bleach the carpets or wait "1 month" and then bring a new puppy into the area. And since, I'm waiting 3 months AND bleaching AND bleaching out side surroundings (even tho my will be inside 99.9 percent of the time) AND spraying disinfectants AND getting all vaccinations AND cleaning bedding AND cleaning clothing well AND bleached and boiled any toys or brushes that might of came in contact with Bengi, I know my puppy will be ok. BECAUSE I have faith! =) IP: Logged |
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Albert Member Posts: 160 |
posted 04-02-2003 09:22 PM
Malteseof2003, Did you bleach the infected areas ? Just kidding......LOL IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-02-2003 09:28 PM
Lol what? Yes, most and on spring break (14 of april -18) I will be cleaning my hands off! lol *what a good spring break ehhh? lol) IP: Logged |
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