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Linda Carney(linc @ socan unregistered |
posted 02-22-2003 10:03 AM
I have a bitch that gets really sick when in whelp,She has just been bred 1 week and has already started her finicky eating habits.The laast time she was in whelp everything went yo the pups,she was a rack of bones.need a lot of help on this.Tried evrything last time but it didn't matter!Is there anything out there for sickness in this preg. bitch.Taking her to my vet on MOnday,Hope he has a answer,he seen her last time. IP: Logged |
zeb unregistered |
posted 02-23-2003 06:54 AM
why would you want to breed her when you know its makes her that sick? Sounds to me like it's time to let her just be a dog and injoy life. Give her to somebody that will love and treat her the way she should be treated. I asume you are a back yard breeder? IP: Logged |
PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-24-2003 09:26 AM
Zeb,I think you need not judge someone like this.You know nothing of this person. Linda, IP: Logged |
Linda Carney New Member Posts: 2 |
posted 02-24-2003 12:46 PM
Thank You West!!As far as Zeb goes your right.I was looking for some help and suggestions.I have an appointment Wed. with my vet.Agin THANK YOU IP: Logged |
dog breeder unregistered |
posted 02-24-2003 11:03 PM
I agree with Zeb. If she can't handle breeding she shouldn't be breed. Your only helping to create more dogs with her problems. And why put the poor dog through that again in the first place? IP: Logged |
PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-25-2003 09:24 AM
Well,I have something to say to Dog Breeder and Zeb,How would you like it if someone told your mother not to have you because she gets morning sickness?It's the same thing.So before you tell some one what they should or should not do,Try for once to think about what you are saying,before you open your mouth. Maybe your mom should not of had you,or her mom have her,and so on,because they get sick. So,quit being so D**n judgemental.She is asking for our help,not for our judgment. IP: Logged |
Linda Carney New Member Posts: 2 |
posted 02-25-2003 02:02 PM
Well Thanks again.I have done a lot of calling and researching and hope I have found the solution.You see I am not a puppy mill & care very much what happens to my dogs!I can handle the breeding and I am still going to breed.This was the first time i used this place and it will be the last.Like West said I was looking for some answer and your bad mouthing me for something Zeb or breeder evidently didn't know anything about it,so they just bad mouth me.Thank You West for helping me IP: Logged |
PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-25-2003 02:23 PM
Linda, You are always welcome here.I am always glad to help.There are some really good people that do come here.Do not let stupid people run you away.Good luck with you dog and all her wonderfull babies.. Lots of Love, IP: Logged |
zeb unregistered |
posted 02-28-2003 02:27 AM
Well pitbull princess, I don't see where I judged her, I asked why she would want to breed the dog again because of its health problems. you state that maby my mother should not have had me because it made her sick. I'm quite sure that if Linda was made to react in the same way that the dog was, that she would never do that again. Why put the dog through somthing like that again and again. She states that she isn't a breeder but will continue to breed. Why breed and have all those puppies just to give away? She stated that the vet looked at the dog the last time, was the dog checked over this time before breeding, or waited untill the problem came around again. Also most people, unless they are breeders, don't refere to thier females as bitches. You should not judge me for my input to someone else when you don't know for sure that the ori. poster is on the up and up. IP: Logged |
PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-28-2003 10:59 AM
Zeb, Maybe you need to learn how to speak to people properly.By reading you post it sounds not right,but I don't know you,so I can not make that judgment. Don't misunderstand what I said when I said,"Maybe your mom should have had you because maybe you made her sick".I was only using that as an example.I did not mean it personally. I breed pitbulls and I do not referr to my females as bitches,I call them females.Have you ever stop to think,just maybe sense she was in a dog forum,she was trying to use proper terms?Just a thought. She said she was not a breeder,maybe she just likes having puppies in her house.That really is not the issue.The Issue is that she need advise and you just had to be mean.I think it was rude the way you spoke to her. [This message has been edited by Auspetian (edited 02-28-2003).] IP: Logged |
JoN^ unregistered |
posted 10-02-2003 04:27 AM
just a piece of info for ya, zeb=dog_breeder dog_breeder=zeb pwned IP: Logged |
the_maine_pitbull Member Posts: 320 |
posted 10-02-2003 11:34 AM
Okay.. I have stressed this so many times on so many boards.. THIS IS A MESSAGE BOARD!! Everyone who posts on here needs to understand they are going to get people's opinions and suggestions and comments and questions whether they like them or not.. If they didn't want them or couldn't handle them, then why are they here?? I do not feel it is right for a dog that has such a hard time with pregnancy to be bred, why cause such problems purposely for a dog, especially when there are already so many dogs out there in shelters that need homes. And Pitbull princess, you should know that as well as any one else, especially because of the status of Pit Bull's.. well, APBT's are the only dogs out there..l breeding is just taking chances from those dogs in shelters finding homes. You cannot compare human pregnancy to a dogs.. humans can speak and say what is going on and get help whereas a dog cannot. Linda stated she tried everything last time but nothing helped-- why put your dog through it again if nothing helped the last time? You may care about your dogs, but caring and being responsible are two completely different things. If you care so much about your dog- get het spayed so she doesn't have to endure the sickness that she goes through with pregnancy. How old is your dog Linda? You obviously do not know much of breeding because you say "whelp" as if it meant pregnancy.. Don't be another statistic of BYB's.. Angie IP: Logged |
Jas Moderator Posts: 536 |
posted 10-02-2003 06:11 PM
Hi Angie, this was an old topic you replied to. It was started in Feb. of last year. I suppose its a good example that shows us we need to be cautious how we word our posts and realize that some people need to be educated instead of lectured - because no matter what we say they are going to do what they wish.... better that they walk away with some education/information! You are right Angie, this is a message board and there will always be diverse opinions and responses, some things we want to hear and other things we want to ignore. IP: Logged |
the_maine_pitbull Member Posts: 320 |
posted 10-02-2003 08:25 PM
LOL JAS-- never even knew it was old..I think the guy who was a post ahead of me.. Jon was his name bumped it up.. I agree somethings need to be reminded to many.. i have noticed this week a few things have gotten flared up do to difference in opinions.. But a good debate helps educate others.. Some peoples arguements make others see things differently and brings some people to the same level of understanding. Angie IP: Logged |
Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 10-03-2003 06:36 AM
I think the key is in the wording. When the person with the sick dog came for help, it was irrelevant at that point whether the dog should have been bred or not - it was already done. Advice to help the dog should come first. I tend to agree that the dog should not have been bred again after she was so sick the first time, but I don't think I would have made such an accusatory post. Perhaps something like, "You could try such-and-such with your dog to get her to eat....and perhaps in the future you should consider whether it is wise to breed her again knowing the problems she has with it. Please discuss it with your vet before you let her breed again!"
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 10-03-2003 03:19 PM
Well what alot of advice, I do have to agree with JAS as we should be helping and educating the people on here that are looking for help, Not assuming they are backyard breeders when we know nothing of the animals or owners history. I have to agree a dog with this sort of problem should not be bred from and a full set of blood work should be carried out, to determine wether there is anything wrong with this dog. As i look at it with breeding, an animal that is used for breeding should be treat the same way as a pregnant woman would be, regular check up's and so on. As for the dog being a rack of bone's during or after pregancy, sounds like a diet problem,, Some pregnant bitches take well to pregnancy some just are not meant for it, Try to feed boiled rice with boiled chicken mixed in on a morning and an evening may help with the sickness. But i can not stress enough about breeding, Alot of research and time should be done before attempting any form of breeding, Wether it's a dog or a bird IP: Logged |
charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 10-03-2003 03:29 PM
Just to add.... During the pregnancy the bitches food intake does not really need to increase until around the third week and the intake should be increased to about 10% a week, the sixth week onwards this should be increased by about 40% a week. The pregnant bitch if not fed correctly, will use up her own body resources for the puppies, so in other words if not enough food given, what ever the bitch eats the pups get and she gets whatever if any is left over.. So a high well blanced diet should be used, a vet will be able to decide which is best for you dog as each dog is different. IP: Logged |
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