posted 02-19-2004 09:34 AM         

When we work she is in her cage. No matter how long she is in her cage 2 to 6 hours she will go and lay in it. I thought dogs didn't like to sleep in their pee? Any suggestions would be great on how to fix this.

posted 02-19-2004 12:27 PM         

As for going in the house -
Maybe you can keep her on a leash (as much as possibly) while she has free access in the house so that the second you think she is about to go on the floor you can rush her outside and then praise her after she goes outside. I also recommend that you go outside with her (if your not doing so already) so that you can give lots of praise the second she is done going and maybe even a little treat to try and give her the idea that going outside is the best place to go.
Hope this helps.

posted 02-19-2004 04:30 PM         

I'm wondering if perhaps your crate is too large- too large will defeat the purpose. But then again, if she's actually sleeping in the pee, maybe that's not your problem. (Too small, maybe?)

This isn't a scientifically-tested theory, but it just seems to me that females are more difficult to house train. Praise the !@#$ out of her when she goes outside, and I know it's a lot of work but throw her outside again after 20 minutes, before she has a chance to do it again inside. Put her in her crate if you can't watch her for an extended period of time.

We had trouble keeping our young female from going in the crate and what stopped it almost cold was that we started keeping a greasy meat bone and bowl of water in there, thinking it would, oh, enhance the idea of the crate being a den. Whatever. It worked!

posted 02-19-2004 05:14 PM         

~If you are not doing so already, take her out RIGHT before you leave.

~Anything beyond 2-3 hrs., to me, seems too long to be crated. Is there a kitchen or laundry room you can gate off and leave her in while you are gone. Those two rooms are ideal because if she does go in there, it is on tile, therefore easy to clean up. I would also leave her crate in there with the door open in case she wants to sleep in there.

Personally speaking, I hardly ever used a crate with my two dogs (I used it enough to the point where I felt my pups were accustomed to it, and it didn't bother them to be put in it). Whenever I would leave or couldn't keep a close eye on them, they would be put in the kitchen which was gated off from the rest of the house. Their cage was/is in one corner of the kitchen with the door open in case they wanted to sleep in there. I prefered putting them in the kitchen as opposed to putting them in their crate, because in the kitchen they could walk around, stretch out, play, etc. To me, it just seemed like a nicer, more comfortable, option.

As far as her eliminating in the house:

~Limit her access to your home by not letting her have free run of the house.

~Keep her close by.

~Her habit of eliminating in the house 20 mins. after you bring her in seems to be a trend, so before that 20 min. mark take her out.

~Use proper correction when she does eliminate in the house.

~Lots and lots of praise along with a little treat when she does eliminate outside.

~And of course, lots of patience and persistence!!!

Good Luck!!!

posted 02-20-2004 05:42 AM         

I let you in on the story i have. I have a 4 1/2 month shih-poo. paper training him is driving me crazy!!! Because we live in an apartment and me and my boyfriend are at work for the most part of the day, he has a room that he can stay in, a pretty big room. Anyways, we would always put down papers for him to go to the bathroom. Milo would go on the papers one week, then go on the floor the next week. I couldn't figure it out. Each time he went on the papers i would get him a treat. I would also take him outside when i got home so that he can do his business and also so that he can run around. Anyways i didn't know what to do, about him going on the floors one week and then going on the papers the next, Also, HE WOULD PEE AND POOP IN HIS CRATE AND LITTLE BED that he had. I thought this was weird, my boyfriend even thought that milo wasn't all there, if you know what i mean. Anyways, i looked on the internet on what i should do. I found an article about how to paper train pups.

First thing that i read that i found out that i was doing wrong, is that you can NEVER get mad at your pup for going on the floors, or anywhere where s/he isn't to be going. Just clean it up (without s/he seeing it, they get a kick out of watching you clean up after them, i don't get it either!) But you can't punish them for going in the wrong spot. If you do, and i noticed this with milo, they will eat it so that you don't see it and you can't get mad at them. anyways, clean it up, and when they go to where they are sapposed to go, praise them or give them a treat, something that they love! Also, if you see them in the process of going in the wrong place, put them where you want them to go. If they finish where they are sapposed to go then give them a treat.

I hope this helps you, Milo is almost paper trained, he should be i have been doing this for 2 1/2 months! LOL. As for the pooping and peeing in his crate, maybe he is in it to long? I keep Milo's crate open because he has a room to play in that is enclosed, and also he would be in his crate for to long if i didn't.

Anyways i hope this helps you in any way. I find it the most productive with Milo.

Good Luck

posted 02-20-2004 12:56 PM         

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Someone advised us to actually drag Cheri to the place where she poo and scold her continously.

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posted 02-20-2004 01:13 PM         

If you happen to find a mess (and you didn't see it occur), it is utterly worthless to say anything to your dog about the mess, just clean it up with a good deodorizer and move on as if nothing happened.