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karma
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posted 02-10-2004 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karma     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone,

I've posted this on the other board so if it's a repeat for you I apologize.

I am a professional pet groomer and I'm always looking for ways to improve my relationships with the owners who bring their pets. So I'm wondering if you could take a couple of minutes and post about your experiences with groomers. Anything you can think of would be helpful to me.

What do you think of your groomer's:

Handling of your dog, time spent at the shop, courtesy, professionalism, appearance of shop, willingness to listen to you, willingness to explain what they will be doing? How do you like the cuts you get? Does your groomer just take your dog and give you a clip, or do they encourage your input?

What are any other likes and dislikes?

Thanks so much for any input. It's a real help to me!

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Milo
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posted 02-10-2004 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milo     Edit/Delete Message
I am going to be bring my dog Milo to the groomers for the first time on Monday. I'll let you know what my experience is (or his).

By the way, Should we tip?

Christina

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karma
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posted 02-10-2004 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karma     Edit/Delete Message
Christina,

Good luck with your first grooming. A lot of groomers may say that you should tip- I don't know if there's an 'official' etiquette consensus. Personally, (although of course I love it when people do,) I don't expect it and don't look at the non-tippers any differently. My fees reflect the level of compensation I feel I deserve. Some people have a tough time making ends meet and I'd hate to think they felt they had to. On the other hand if you can afford it and you feel the groomer has done a good job- why not?

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dfrancis
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posted 02-11-2004 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dfrancis     Edit/Delete Message
Chistina....I always tip my groomer. Of course I've been using her for years and she does a good job and will squeeze me in in a seconds notice. She charges $21.50 to do my toy poodle and I pay her $25.

Karma....I'm very picky about my groomers and have tried just about everyone in my area. I like to visit with the groomer first and see the shop- all areas. A little fur here and there is not a problem, but one time I walked in and saw several animals very matted. The groomer commented that they were just her personal pets. Not a good example.

Also....if you notice anything different about the pet when you groom, such as a lump, that they seem bloated or that you've shaved a dime size piece of skin and left a gaping hole in the cat's side, just be honest about it and own up. Everybody makes mistakes and I wouldn't hold it against you. But when I get home and find it and the groomer didn't say anything....either they didn't want to be honest about it or they didn't notice it when they were grooming. I changed groomers immediately.

I have also changed groomers based on my dog's reaction. I know she doesn't like to be groomed, but when she comes out terrifed and trembling, that's not a good sign. If there was some kind of accident that happened that scared my dog, just tell me about it.

My current groomer (or should I say my poodle's current groomer) always listens to what I say and will ask me if I'm sure I want to do that (such as the time I shaved Abbie bald when she started getting into the chiggers and fireants). She's not afraid to tell me that what I want is not a good idea.

I guess the main thing is be honest and build a good rapor with your regular clients.

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karma
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posted 02-11-2004 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karma     Edit/Delete Message
dfrancis,

Thanks for your response. I'll respond to each of your comments.

About seeing a matted pet when you walk in, that belongs to the owner, well, yes, I guess one would expect a groomer to stay on top of her own dogs. But I'll point out that owning a matted pet doesn't necessarily make one a poor groomer.

About noticing things and not saying anything- I've always made a point to let owners know if I saw something. To be fair, not even a good groomer will always notice every lump or other abnormality.

A groomer who causes an abrasion should always own up to it. Mistakes happen, but it does make us look bad to not tell the owner.

Dogs tremble for many reasons. Fear, definitely, but they also tremble with excitement. I cannot tell you how many dogs will shake like crazy when they see their owners, but I will say that, knowing that NO kind of mishap or mishandling caused the shaking, I would be very sorry to hear that a customer of mine would necessarily infer that something had gone wrong. There are many other factors that could contribute to shaking that we aren't aware of- maybe a smell in the room, another dog's particular bark, having to go to the bathroom. And many, many dogs are fine the whole time they're here (no shaking, I mean) and as soon as Mom shows up they begin to shake!

I'm certainly not saying that your dog's shaking wan't because of undue poor handling- I'm just presenting the other side. We can run our shops perfectly, and not be able to control that.

I think it's good that you ask to check the shop out. And yes, a good groomer will both listen and make suggestions where necessary. It sounds like you've found a very confident, professional one

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papillon/mom
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posted 02-12-2004 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for papillon/mom     Edit/Delete Message
I have never brought my Max (male papillon 14 months old) to a groomer, I brush him every other day usually and I give him a bath w/aloegroom every 2 weeks. I have noticed tow knots in the back of his neck, under his ears. I have a vet friend who informed me that a groomer for Max is not necessary, do you think it is? If so how often, any certain time of year? Max does shed that is why I try to keep up on brushing but I don't know what the difference would be to take him to a professional. Thanks....

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karma
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posted 02-12-2004 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karma     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure what you mean by 'tow knots.' Or is this a type and you just mean that he gets mats?

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ceasar
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posted 02-17-2004 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ceasar     Edit/Delete Message
My first experience with Caesar was not a good one. Caesar is a Malt-tzu. Apparently she didn't know what she was doing. This is my first little dog. He was 3 and months old and I had been keeping things trimmed, but it was time for a clip all over. She cut him to short and very choppy. His face was left longer with not a lot taken off of the nose (which I told her to cut it short because of tearing)she told me she used a 10 and that was the shortest. I didn't realize until I got home she didn't even clip is back nails. He looked like a lion. I wasn't sure how he should look, but he didn't look right. I ended up taking him to my sister-in-laws groomer to get an opinion. She was very surprise the cut was so bad. She ended up having to cut him even shorter, just to get him even. He looked so much better, even if he was almost bald. He sure doesn't look like the same dog, but has the same great personality. I will take him to the new girl for now on. The first girl charged 20.00 and then I ended up paying the 2nd girl 14.00. It was worth it to have him staighten out. I never went to the 1st girl for a refund or to complain (my husband said she probably did the best job she knew how) I suppose he's right. Just curious what you think. I was wondering if they need to have the eye lashes trimmed? Caesars are very long--longer than his hair.
Thanks

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karma
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posted 02-17-2004 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karma     Edit/Delete Message
Well...without seeing him it's hard to say. Choppy isn't usually good... sometimes they're done in a shaggy kind of cut which is usually really cute for a dog like yours. But with shaggy, all the hair is the same length. Choppiness implies that the hair is cut unevenly.

All the nails should have been done, of course.

There isn't really a specific type of cut for a dog like yours. Most are done in what's called a 'puppy' or 'teddy bear' clip, which basically means the same length all over, usually about an inch of hair is left, give or take.

How did you end up at this groomer? I really think the best way to find a good groomer, is to ask other people who they like, if possible. The grooming trade is not licensed or regulated so just about anyone can groom.

Another thing is that groomers have different styles and preferences- if you took your dog in and asked for a 'puppy' clip at two different groomers you could conceivably end up with two very different clips, with neither of them necessarily 'wrong.'

As for the eyelashes- most owners want them trimmed back, because they can get very long, however, I've had a customer or two who give me very explicit instructions to not touch the eyelashes. It's basically whatever you want. Again, no right or wrong.


Sometimes you need a couple of 'back-and-forths' with a groomer before he or she completely understands exactly what you want.


However, it sounds as though perhaps this first one you went to really just wasn't that good... glad you were able to have it pretty much fixed.

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ceasar
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posted 02-18-2004 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ceasar     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the reply. I took him to the groomer at the vets office which is an animal hospital. Been in business a very long time. I have been going there for 10 years with my Husky and Beagle. I really thought they would have a quality groomer.
I will diffently have her trim his eye lashes next time. Thanks, again

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Milo
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posted 02-18-2004 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milo     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Karma,

Well i think you know how my experience was at the groomers. Some tips from me i would say, try not to cut my dog, and also if i ask for a certin hair cut, to try and do it. Please don't be like my pets groomer (i know your not) lol. Thanks

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papillon/mom
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posted 02-18-2004 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for papillon/mom     Edit/Delete Message
Max has two knotts under his ears and I am not sure how I should get them out, cut them or take him to a groomer? Do you recommed that papillons go to a groomer or is just 3x per week good enough? What would the difference be I give him a bath 2x per month.

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karma
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posted 02-18-2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karma     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, did you mean to ask if brushing him 3 x/ week is good enough? If you can keep him matt-free and trim him to your satisfaction, he doesn't necessarily need a groomer. Many people take care of their dogs themselves.

As for the mats behind his ears, you have to be careful about cutting them out with scissors. If they're not really tight up against his skin and you're sure you can see hair in between the mat and the skin, go ahead and cut the hair. But please be careful! People have cut skin doing this- they pull out the skin with the hair and end up cutting the skin.

If you're not sure, you may want to go to a groomer. I use clippers on mats like this - it's often faster, easier and safer.

If you're doing his grooming at home, also be sure to keep his ears clean, his nails trimmed, and keep the hair on the bottoms of his feet free of long hair. And check between his foot pads to make sure the hair isn't matting up.

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