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Anela Member  Posts: 34 |
posted 10-11-2003 08:33 PM
 
I'm very confused on what vaccinations my puppy should get?? He is a shih tzu and I will be getting him at the end of the month he will be 8 weeks old. but what vaccinations should he get and when? I'm reading up on the vaccines for puppies and it has changed ALOT. My breeder will send a record but I would like opinions of others. Thank you, Anela IP: Logged |
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Anela Member Posts: 34 |
posted 10-12-2003 07:49 AM
Maybe I should have worded that different. What I mean is how much is too much? I am reading now that there is no need for a yearly, that every 3 years is fine. Well, can I post something here I found about this? it's all about how vet's are giving way to much and how it's not needed and probably doing more harm then good....I'm gonna post the site, if I'm not supose to I appologize but thought it is worth reading and maybe discussing with your vet. http://www.gloryridge.com/vaccinations.htm IP: Logged |
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ilovemaltipoos Member Posts: 177 |
posted 10-12-2003 09:25 AM
For a puppy that young the shots will be the parvo /distemper .Some vets give every 2 weeks ,some every 3 until they have had at least 3 ,larger dogs need at least 4 . Then, here in Alabama at 12 weeks they get kennel cough vacine ,rabies .There are a few states that have a 3 year rabies ,some have a two yr rabies and here it is once a year .Some states say 6 months for rabies ,some say 12 weeks or 3 months . There are other shots for different reasons but these three are the most important as far as I am aware .I may be wrong there but I am not a vet . Each state is different ,each vet sees their procedure as the correct one .But to be able to fly a puppy at 8 to 12 weeks ,the airlines even require you have a state certificate signed by a licensed vet the shots were up to date and how old the puppy is . The problem there is that some breeders lie about the age ,vet signs off and they ship them much too early .Airlines want the puppies to be at least 8 weeks old .I do not ship until mine are 11 to 12 according to size and personality . The parvo/distemper shots whether 5 in one ,7in one or 9 in ones come pre mixed .One is a powder ,one is a liquid and that is mixed with the needle and then given .The rabies comes with the vet knowing how much to pull out of the bottle in cc's ,now if too much of that is given it is the vet that is the culprit there . IP: Logged |
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Alison Member Posts: 37 |
posted 10-12-2003 10:18 AM
For my puppy, I got the puppy shot combo drug for distemper/parvo/kennel cough/etc every 3 weeks until she was a little over 5 months old. She got two doses of lyme vaccine (this depends on your area) and we just got the rabies vaccine as she's approaching 6 months old and the vet says this one should be repeated yearly (this is also a requirement for the county I live in). We got bordatella/parainfluenza shots along with her combo shot. Now she's done her series and won't be due for more shots until next year! Yay! As soon as you get your puppy, it's extremely important to take him to a vet right away. In fact, I'd even go ahead and make the appointment now. Even if the breeder says they've had the pup checked, there could always be something he missed or something they're not truthful about and it's important to find this out before it's too late and also to just insure the general health of your puppy. When you go, you can discuss the vaccination series and they'll give you the dates and requirements for all the pup's shots. Definitely make sure you set aside enough money for vet visits and shots during the first few months because they're just as important as food dishes and toys! Hope this helped. Good luck! -Alison IP: Logged |
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Anela Member Posts: 34 |
posted 10-12-2003 10:29 AM
Thanks you guys! I guess the rabies is different in every state, here it is once a year also. Every 3 years would be nice but I guess a law is a law no matter how you feel about it. Yes, he will be going to our vet as soon as we get him to get checked, and to start him on all his appointments he will need. My breeder also goes by the size and development of the pup b/f she ships. If when he turns 8 weeks and he is not ready for the trip then we will wait till he is. I hope he is but we will see....Anela IP: Logged |
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Alison Member Posts: 37 |
posted 10-12-2003 11:08 AM
For my puppy, I got the puppy shot combo drug for distemper/parvo/kennel cough/etc every 3 weeks until she was a little over 5 months old. She got two doses of lyme vaccine (this depends on your area) and we just got the rabies vaccine as she's approaching 6 months old and the vet says this one should be repeated yearly (this is also a requirement for the county I live in). We got bordatella/parainfluenza shots along with her combo shot. Now she's done her series and won't be due for more shots until next year! Yay! As soon as you get your puppy, it's extremely important to take him to a vet right away. In fact, I'd even go ahead and make the appointment now. Even if the breeder says they've had the pup checked, there could always be something he missed or something they're not truthful about and it's important to find this out before it's too late and also to just insure the general health of your puppy. When you go, you can discuss the vaccination series and they'll give you the dates and requirements for all the pup's shots. Definitely make sure you set aside enough money for vet visits and shots during the first few months because they're just as important as food dishes and toys! Hope this helped. Good luck! -Alison IP: Logged |
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Alison Member Posts: 37 |
posted 10-12-2003 11:10 AM
No idea why that got posted twice. Sorry! IP: Logged |
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flipart74 New Member  Posts: 6 |
posted 10-13-2003 07:23 PM
Every puppy I have got their 6, 9, 12 and 15 wk puppy shots, the first or even the second shots being provided by the breeder and the rest given by the local vet. Breeders of shih-tzu around here give their pups the first shot when the pup turns six weeks old and have been wormed at least 2 or 3 times and if they go home to a family around 8 weeks old they are reminded to take the puppy to go to the vet for a general check up within 48hrs....for stool test and maybe even a parvo test.... and if the vet finds anything wrong with the puppy to contact the breeder immediately. If everything is fine, then the vet will set up an appointment to give the pup it's ninth week shot. Breeders tell me that three series of puppy shots are enough, but my vet goes the extra mile by adding another. About rabies, we take our dogs once a year, your vet will tell you when your pup is due for rabies vac. I am pretty sure this new addition to your family will bring you lots of joy, just like how my four babies give us (3 min pins and a ten and a half week old female peek-a-poo). But like what I always tell people who bring home puppies....take them to the vet and don't wait too long, you are the one these young ones rely on for food, shelter, and care, so don't put off the vet visit before it is too late. I have heard of horrific stories about new owners waiting too long for a vet visit, some had happy endings the rest I don't even want to think about, all because they waited. Also, if you are not planning on breeding, please spay or neuter your pets... IP: Logged |
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ilovemaltipoos Member Posts: 177 |
posted 10-13-2003 10:28 PM
Not all breeders in this state do as well as what you explained . The shots ,if given at all because unless you have a vet record you cannot be sure it happened , by some breeders are mostly from the feed store and as my vet has said over and over ,"those things will get a breeder in trouble really fast " Plus they have an ingredient in them that make knots on the necks of the puppies ,which at times will harden and have to be removed by surgery . I know quite a few breeders ,some personally and some by reputation both good and bad ,in this state and in other states and unless they use a vet from day one ,I wouldn't buy one from them .Had too many to mess me up several times with "I gave this and done this and that " and then it was not true . Always remember ,when you buy a puppy ,get it from a breeder that uses a vet ,everything a vet has done on a record sheet ,everything they have done and what they used on a record sheet ,don't be fooled by a "I did this or that " And do take your pet to the vet ,very fast .Most around here only give you 48 hrs and then they waver about taking the pet back if something is wrong and some will outright refuse even if you get a report with 24hrs . I have a 7 day for any reason,full vet check,vet from the beginning records plus a record of all I have done and what I used (my vet gives all shots )never let a puppy leave until they have had at least 2 shots ,most have 3 ,year genetic guarentee ,neuter/spay contract and will take back during life of any I place . To anyone that reads this ....... If you don't get the same guarentees I give or at least something close ,be careful ,be very careful .Been there ,done that both here in Bama and in Ga . Don't trust unless there is proof .For every person that gets a "I did this and that" puppy,there is one that don't make it .Take your pet to the vet and make sure the breeder you choose has done the same,more than once . IP: Logged |
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puttin510 Member Posts: 1179 |
posted 10-15-2003 12:32 PM
Here in california, the rabies shot is administered every three years. Bortadella is important if you plan on walking your dog out around where other dogs are. Even walking into the vets office your dog can get kennel couch. The last time mine caught it was I believe, a dog in the vets office in for a wound check. And the lady said Oh and I don't know why he's been coughing. No dog with kennel cough is allowed in the main entrance if it has a known or suspected case of kennel cough. Very contagious. It is hard wrenching seeing your poor dog go thru a terrible night of coughing and hacking of foamy stuff. As for other shots and small dogs you should only let the vet administer one at a time. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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ilovemaltipoos Member Posts: 177 |
posted 10-15-2003 06:09 PM
Kennel cough protection is very important ,and vets should be the ones to administer any shot to a puppy anyway .I totally agree with you on that . I only had one case of a dog with kennel cough and it came from Georgia .I treated all here just in case ,had to ,cause I had to treat for other things as well that came with that group,I get rescues all the time in better shape than this group of dogs were in .Lucky me that time that the kennel cough did not spread,but the other stuff was a long and hard thing to fight and get rid of .I caught the kc in time with the puppies I bought and quickly treated everyone that had not the vaccine yet and kept that puppy away from everyone .Washed in clorox my hands ,shoes ,clothes before I even went to another puppy .By the time I had treated all and got her over it and the other stuff that came with them my hands were raw and bleeding and my clothes I threw away because they were eaten by clorox .Yes I used gloves also ,but those things just held the clorox water inside longer ,so eventually I had to give those to the trash container too .Why do they make those things just to go over the wrist when you are up to your knees in clorox I will never know .?It is very hard for me to see any animal mistreated or in pain for any reason .I get all out of sorts with uncaring people that do horrible things to dogs and cats and other of God's creatures that cannot help themselves . IP: Logged |
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flipart74 New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 10-15-2003 08:21 PM
To: ilovemaltipoos Unfortunately, I know what you are talking about when it comes to breeders that say they did this or that. I know of a few breeders around here in the southeast that can not be trusted when it comes to their dogs. The reputable ones really provide you with the shot records that came from the vet that they took the puppies to. The breeders around here that I know that are good will stand behind their pups. The only thing they remind these people that take their puppies home is that they are not show type pups nor should they be used as breeders, what they will take home with them is a healthy and pet quality family member. I have seen mothers that are so heartbroken over a puppy that they just took home which their daughters or sons grew too attach with within a day and to find out that it has parvo and go through such a time with their kids questioning what is going on. I also have seen a young couple who just took home their first puppy (a mini doxie) and find out that it has so much problems and they were having tough times getting in touch with the breeder. Things like this mostly come from breeders that say they gave this to the pups when they really didn't and so on and so forth. That is why it is always a good idea to ask for references about the breeder and her reputation. A good breeder will also in turn ask you what type of environment you are taking her little one and any other questions which she may think is necessary to ask before letting a loved one go. But we all sometimes forget about simple things like these especially when you see that cute little puppy just wanting all your attention making you feel like you are the coolest person in the whole world by wagging its tail everytime you say "hello" to it. I just hope that every puppy taken home gets what it deserves...a loving and caring home that will see to its every needs. Here is a pic of our new addition to our family, and maybe, just maybe, be able to bring home either a maltipoo or a yorkiepoo: IP: Logged |
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ilovemaltipoos Member Posts: 177 |
posted 10-15-2003 09:09 PM
What a sweet little girl ! Thank you for sharing her . You are right about references and also check with the bbb and see if the breeder is listed , It is always best to check all you can ,ask if tax is added ,if no tax ,they don't report ,not legal . Read what they have to say if they have a site and then ask the questions . A breeder that says a dog is hypoallergenic to all people is telling you a myth ,one that says maltipoos or any poos hair is easier to keep ,one that tells you a poo cross does not get over 8 lbs ,one that tells you off the wall stuff about flights ,so many things to ask ,people do forget ,espically when they see that little face of your baby . Then they go home and find out they will lose that precious face forever .You know ,that is how you close a disreputable breeder ,ask the questions .soon ,no one would buy and they would have to close but too many don't ask and too many die needlessly .I love all my poos .I answer as much as I can and learn more everyday .I just wish that there was a way to tell the public that by my learning (through good and bad ) we could accomplish so much together instead of the bickering that goes on about what laws to pass ,although the right laws would be very helpful ,we could just try to educate instead of automatially hate .Save a baby face today .Don't buy from a breeder that is a "I did this or that "or a pet store . LAst week a getleman from Huntsville called me about a dog ,I told him the price plus tax ,he said "I have never heard of a breeder charging tax ,are you a pet store ? " I said "No,just legal " He had been to he said 6 or 7 breeders to look at puppies and wanted to come see mine .I refused ,I know where he went and I do not need the parvo they have had .He was all upset .I would not take that chance with my babies .Thank you for the pictures ....Made my day to know one has a great home .......... IP: Logged |
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flipart74 New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 10-15-2003 10:09 PM
By the way, the pic (if it did show up) is of our new family member, a dainty female peke-a-poo born on July 31 and as of a week ago from the vet, she only weighs a little over a pound and her name is Shi-shee. About kennel cough or any upper respiratory infection in puppies....here is my story on one that I experienced myself (oh, try to get you something to drink for this might be lengthy :-) but I will try to not go way too much on details). On December 31, 2002, I went to the local Pet Store and was browsing for what I can use for my saltwater/freshwater aquariums. They also sell cute little puppies in this store (I know, it is a major "no-no"), I can't help it but I went over to look at them. Well, I saw the cutest little stag red female min pin and she pretty much got me wrapped around her paw. I told them to put a hold on the puppy and that I will be right back. I came back with someone I have to make the decision with about the puppy, we both took her to a quiet area in the store and played with her a little bit. We noticed that she had a rattling noise in her chest, but all in all she seems to be really a great puppy. We both fell in love with her and we decided to take her home, since we already have two min pins (both from reputable breeders: a clear red male and a black/rust female) she should feel right at home. We were a bit worried with the rattle and we didn't want our other min pins to end up with it. We decided to put her in a room by herself and made sure it was comfortable in there temperature wise. We took her to the vet after the holiday and sure enough, it was an upper respiratory infection and she needed some antibiotics and we asked if she could be introduced to our other min pins, the vet asked us to bring the two in for a check up and after that, he said that it should be ok since they both are up to date on all their shots/booster, but to keep an eye on all of them especially the new one. We gave her medications as prescribed, but after a week, still no luck, it didn't get worse, but it didn't get any better. So we took her in for more test and a different kind of medication. We tried it and still no luck after two weeks. So, he put her on a different medication and more tests and he also said that a week after, he might try something else if it doesn't work. This little girl went through a lot, but my other min pins seem to know what she is feeling and they accepted her from the first day. The third visit's meds seem to work better. Wherever I go, she is always beside me or her other parent, but we all know that she was MY little girl. A little over a month after we took her home, she was feeling better. She made everyone know that she is the baby in the family...lol. Our vet and the rest of the staff were so happy that she finally got over her ordeal, although she is not really all well, at least she is doing way better than the first day. On February 17, 2003, I came home and didn't find her by the door leading to the kitchen from the garage. She always greeted me there every afternoon/evening when I come home from work ever since she figured out that is where I show up almost everyday. I was alarmed by this and knew something was wrong. That was the day everyone that lived within five miles from us found out about her. Within a few hours, we were able to contact all the vet hospitals in our area, contact the police department in our town and neighboring ones. We searched our neighborhood til dawn of the next day, stopping due to exhaustion. After a couple hours of sleep, we had the local cable run an ad for us on the local community channel, called local shelters and checked the vet hospitals. I went to work late that day and later that afternoon, I heard the worst news of my life, that is when I really finally knew that I will never see my little girl beside me in my bed, me telling her that the corner curio cabinet is not there for her to look at while she squats and pee, for me to hear my brother-in-law calling her "lil mouse" and how my nephew calls her nickname (nik-nik, short for nikee which is short for nikita). To this day, I still am mad at her for leaving me and she will not hear the end of it when I see her later in life but she brought us happiness even for just a short term and it has been a joy showing her that there is a good loving home beyond the crate where she's been stuck with her sisters/brothers. IP: Logged |
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