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z3nger
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posted 02-17-2004 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for z3nger     Edit/Delete Message
I've heard that CRF is a terminal disease, and that the only question is how long she/he will live. Is this true? Is there no possibility that there may be an exception? Has there been no case where the cat has survived and everything is okay so long as the diet is kept under control? Should I consider kidney transplant?

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ticktop
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posted 02-17-2004 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ticktop     Edit/Delete Message
Has the cat been to the vet? The vet should have told you the a course of action. A kidney transplant is not a fix-all solution because even if it had a kidney transplant(not often done) the cat would need to be on medication for rest of her life to prevent rejection of the kidney. How severe is her condition? See if an IV fluid therapy (buy IV bags from your vet) will improve her condition and get her on a diet for kidney problem : k/d from Hill's Prescription Diet.

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nern

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posted 02-17-2004 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
I found this site which I think will help give you a better understanding of the disease, causes, and treaments: http://www.cah.com/library/kidfailcon.html
"Kidney Failure-General Considerations

General Comments and Information: (this is not specific to your pet but is for background information concerning possible problems or diagnoses being considered):
by Atlantic Veterinary Internal Medicine Group

Chronic renal failure (CRF) is, unfortunately, a leading cause of illness in dogs and cats. This disease can be due to long-term inflammation from unknown causes or from specific diseases. The most common cause is chronic interstitial nephritis (CIN) and this has no identified cause. It can occur at any age but is more common after 10 years.

Other causes or associated conditions include chronic viral disease, high blood pressure, blood clots (emboli), cancer, high thyroid hormone levels, severe shock, chronic inflammation, abnormal protein deposition (amyloid), and dehydration. This failure (insufficiency) of the kidneys results in poor ability to concentrate toxic waste products form the blood/ plasma into the urine and to conserve/eliminate water (concentrate the urine, or dilute the urine). CRF commonly results in increased risk of urinary tract infections (UTI) and vigilance for these is needed by periodic testing of urine.

Many problems occur when there is kidney dysfunction. These include increased thirst and urination, loss of smell, poor appetite, high blood pressure, anemia, lethargy weight loss, protein loss in urine, problems of calcium and phosphorous metabolism, low serum potassium (muscle problems), platelet dysfunction (bleeding), gastritis and ulcers or vomiting, and occasionally brain dysfunction (uremic encephalopathy).

The classification of CRF is often denoted as being compensated or uncompensated. Crises are present when the pet is diagnosed as being uncompensated renal failure. Standard blood tests that are used to look for kidney dysfunction need to be interpreted with respect to other illnesses/conditions, dehydration, and urine analysis (UA). These tests (creatinine and BUN, phosphorous) do not increase until 75% loss of kidney function has already occurred with CRF.

Therefore even mild elevations are a concern. Cats and dogs that are experiencing de/un- compensation of CRF are usually treated with intravenous (IV) fluids or subcutaneous fluids (SQ fluids), monitoring of blood counts and body salts (especially potassium levels).

There are some cases where use of an endoscopically placed convenient stomach tube can be easier that subcutaneous fluids. Other medications are supportive and can include glucose (in IV fluids), vitamins, anabolic steroids, phosphorous binding medications, blood pressure drugs, antacids such as Pepcid, blood production stimulants and others as warranted. The prognosis for CRF is variable. It depends upon age of onset, current condition of the patient, concurrent clinical problems present, and the individual pet's ability to tolerate a less that ideal kidney function. The latter is the hardest to predict.

Some pets survive years doing well with a good quality of life. Others do poorly within weeks or days. Only an attempt at treatment will answer the question. The most consistency agreed upon treatments are fluids and diet.

A diet designed for kidney disease patients is moderately restricted in protein, low in phosphorous, and modestly restricted in salt (NaCl). Prescription diets can be discussed and home recipes provided if your pet does not eat the prescribed diets.

Renal transplantation is done in cats that do not have any other illness. But it is not done commonly. Survival at 1 year is 80 but survival at two years is almost zero. Hemodialysis is not a viable option in chronic renal failure cases except for large dogs with good veins. It, like transplantation, requires thousands of dollars, in cost (and does not reverse the kidney disease).

Proteinuria is a term that describes loss of proteins from the serum via the kidneys into the urine. The proteins most affected are smaller molecular size proteins such as albumin and some of the proteins that deal with prevention of blood clots and procoagulation of blood. Protein loss in the urine, in the absence of red blood or bacterial infection, results from injury to the filtering apparati of the kidney nephrons. These are called glomeruli. Each glomeruli is attached to a kidney tubule. The whole unit is microscopic is size called a "nephron". There are thousands of nephrons in each kidney. The glomerole acts as the initial filter of blood and the tubule then adjusts the excretion of wastes and water balance. If the glomeruli are damaged or diseased, then often the tubule will also die. Animals with proteinuria may develop low serum protein (low albumin), increased risk of blood clots or hemorrhage, swelling of limbs (edema), high blood pressure. It is also possible as kidney tubules subsequently fail that the pet can develop more typical signs of kidney failure (increased waste products in the blood, e.g., BUN and creatinine and phosphorous). Protein losing nephropathy (PLN) is another way of describing disorders that result in proteinuria. Common diseases that cause protienuria include glomerulonephritis, congenital renal dysplasia, systemic lupus erythematosus, chronic Lyme disease, and other long-term inflammation or infection conditions (e.g., heartworms, brucellosis, disospondylitis). The prognosis for protein losing nephropathies is always guarded unless an underlying primary condition, that is causing injury to the glomeruli secondarily, can be found. Treatments often rely upon diet, aspirin blood pressure medications and sometimes conticosteriods in cautious use."

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MaryNH
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posted 02-18-2004 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaryNH     Edit/Delete Message
I had a cat survive with CRF for 6 years. I had to watch her diet (prescription diet only). Every now and then she'd had to go to the vet to receive IV fluids then she'd be fine for months...as long as she didn't go off her diet (eat another pet's food, or any people food). Tami did fine for months and months between her "spells". If you are diligent in their care they can do well...but yes it does eventually affect their overall health. But it's not an immediate death sentence. Just lots of good quality care...by you and your vet.

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z3nger
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posted 02-18-2004 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for z3nger     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your help. She has been to the vet and she did get k/d food. Shes looking better now but i dont know how long this wil last. Our last visit to the vet, he had to surgically remove stool from her colon because she cannot go herself. He said this may be because of the lack of water and fluids in her stool to cause them to become hard. We give her Tonic-Lax (a cat laxative) twice a day now, and hoepfully she'll be able to go on her own. Does anyone know anything about what to do if a cat feels constipated?
The doctor didnt say how long she had, but our family is very hopeful. Today she ate lots of food and purred a lot. Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it.

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MaryNH
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posted 02-18-2004 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaryNH     Edit/Delete Message
the lax-atone should help.

keep in mind cats will also purr when ill or injured.

Hope your cat continues to show improvement. The k/d food will help a lot. Make sure she continues to drink fresh water and keep it available at all times for her. My cat would have black ooze (this is groos) coming from her butt - black tar-like "dire-rear" when she was having a "spell" and required fluids. Then she'd stop drinking/eating. Also be sure your cat doesn't get any other food - that was always what set Tami off...she'd steal the dog's food and then be sick for days.

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