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tommeh
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posted 01-14-2004 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
hi all

I just got 2 7 week old kittens (same litter) from a cat rescue centre. They are happy to take a little bit of water, and one of them just gulped a bit of warm semi-skimmed milk, but they are both turning up their noses at the kitten food I have bought (comes in pouches).

I've only had them for about 12 hours at the time of this message, how long do you think it will be before they start eating? Will hunger drive them to eat a food they may not like?

If I can't get them to eat the food, what should I give them instead of cows milk? They seem quite energetic, chasing eachother around the house, and exploring.

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posted 01-14-2004 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
well, after reading some of the threads on this forum, I tried giving them a bit of tuna fish (in sunflower oil).

They didn't hesitate to eat that!

I'm going to try mixing it with their kitten food (it comes in pouches with jelly), and see if they'll accept the mixture.

Is it ok to keep feeding them tuna? I don't want to poison them with too much fish.

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posted 01-14-2004 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chessmind     Edit/Delete Message
Hello. Welcome to the site. I know what you and your kittens are going through. When I had five foster kitties a couple of years ago I had the same problem. The vet told me to get a can of powdered milk especially for kittens called KMR and to mix that in with some soft food. He then said after the kittens get used to eating the soft food (mixed with the watered down powder) to slowly add less powder each time, until they just had normal soft food. Your kitty should not be eating this mixture for more than 2-4 weeks tops.
When I gave them this mixture of soft food with watered down milk powder they loved it! Plus they got some extra nutrients from the powder. It made it so much easier to get them to try and eat normal kitten food. It is very difficult to get a little kitten to just start eating hard food.

Understand that your kittens are just babies and they were used to drinking their mother's milk (or bottle fed).

Try this and see how it goes. Just remember that after one week to keep adding less and less powder to the mixture (the correct amount to give is on the back of the can....never give more than what is meant for their age/weight). After two weeks they should be eating without any powder in the soft food. Also you can add little pieces of hard food to the mixture to get them used to that. Also, always have hard food available to them at all times. Tuna water is better than nothing, but not the best source of nutrients (it lacks a lot of things their growing bodies need).

Good luck and keep us posted

p.s. I'm not saying this is the best soft food available for kittens, but at the time I was giving them Max Kitten soft food. They sure liked it with the KMR.

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posted 01-14-2004 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for footsie     Edit/Delete Message
Did you ask the rescue place what food they were eating before? At 7 weeks they could have been eating either canned or dry food. You might try to start them out on the same brand that they're used to. In any case leave the kitten food out and available so they can get it when the get hungry.

They are probably disoriented and scared from being in a new environment, so they may just need some time.

Tuna is ok in the short term, but I wouldn't do it for more than a few days. It has a lot of murcury and doesn't have the taurine cats need. And if they're full of tuna they won't be hungry enough to even try the kitten food. And you don't want them to beg every time you eat a tuna sandwitch! Cows milk can cause loose stools and should be avoided.

Also, my cat refuses to eat the stuff in pouches. He licks up all the gravy stuff but won't touch the meat. So, maybe its just bad tasting and thats the reason.

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posted 01-14-2004 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Congrats on your new kitties :)
Hoggle did not eat for about 2 days when I brought him home...he mostly hid under the bed.
I would probably skip the tuna. The tuna packed in oil can cause a vitamin E deficiency if feed too often or in large amounts. Besides, if they really like the tuna they may refuse to eat unless you mix it with their food all the time. I agree with the other posters suggestions.

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posted 01-15-2004 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
I've tried several brands now, including the exact same food that the rescue centre was feeding them (Whiskas tinned kitten junior).

I haven't seem them eat anything other than the Tuna, and they only ate a very small amount of that.

Right now, when I leave the house, on my return they are sleeping behind the sofa, under the radiator where its warm. When I'm wandering about the house, they follow me all over. Today they followed me into my back bedroom, which is upstairs, pretty brave considering their size.

As I'm typing this, they're both clambering over the keyboard! They seem quite content, but I don't yet understand their personalities enough to know if they're hungry or not.

They're still drinking water. How long should I wait?


Argh! They're eating my hair now!

BTW, I live in the UK, so some of the brands mentioned on this board cannot be found here.

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posted 01-15-2004 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fleafly     Edit/Delete Message
Put dry kitten food down where they can get to it. Kittens get curious. Also make sure they can eat it, something with little kibbles is preferable. My kittens could never eat IAMs very well b/c of the shape.

Get some kitten formula like KMR and let them lap it first if that is all they will do. Slowly add canned till it is all canned. But leave the dry food down, they will get curious and eat it.

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posted 01-16-2004 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
I put some dry food down last night, and when I went downstairs this morning, one of the kittens was eating it. It ate all of it, so I am partially reassured. It also sniffed the tinned food for a few seconds, more than its done since I got them. Before, it wouldn't even go near it.

I just need to see the other kitten eating some food, and I can go away happy. I have to travel away for a week next week, the neighbours have promised to feed them and clean them.

I only hope they don't forget who I am when I return! They won't give me a minute's peace now!

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posted 01-16-2004 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
They just ate lots and lots of warm canned tuna

Its a start! Perhaps I can slowly mix the kitten food into the tuna.

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posted 01-16-2004 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amcfoto     Edit/Delete Message
when my kitties were smaller they LOVED Science Diet kitten hard and soft food as well as Iams soft food. Maybe try one of those?

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posted 01-16-2004 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
You can't really get those brands in the UK.

I just tried some cooked chicken, and they absolutely loved it. I'm going to pour the tuna fish sunflower oil over the cat food, and see if they go for it.

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posted 01-16-2004 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chessmind     Edit/Delete Message
Hello. If you go to your local pet supply store they will have kitten powder/formula in a can. It's the same as what I was telling you about in my previous post to you (KMR). Kittens just really like it, as it tastes like milk. Mix the watered down powder with their food. Give it a try. It's better for them than the tuna. Also it's less expensive than opening cans of tuna everyday. I know I paid less than $20. I think it was around $14, but it lasts a long time.

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posted 01-24-2004 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all

Just to report that they're eating EVERYTHING now, so there was a happy ending

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nern

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posted 01-24-2004 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Glad to hear

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tommeh
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posted 01-24-2004 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
here they are:

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posted 01-24-2004 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
Hi OMG aint they cute i think they are so sweet i would love a cat but my dogs would eat it i think even though they know that cats are a no go for chasing or attacking but i still would not like to think when i was out or in bed that the dogs hurt it.

Glad they are eating well i know kittens can be very fussy and are even worse when they grow up hehehehe

Good luck with the little guys.

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posted 01-24-2004 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fleafly     Edit/Delete Message
They are adorable. I am glad to hear they are eating no, if you can hang in there these things usually get worked out.

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posted 01-24-2004 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
They are absolutely beautiful!

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posted 01-25-2004 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chessmind     Edit/Delete Message
They are beautiful. I'm glad things are working out.

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tommeh
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posted 01-29-2004 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tommeh     Edit/Delete Message
one thing I'm still having trouble with is their toilet habits. Its been my intention to slowly move the litter tray toward the back door over a course of weeks, and then get them used to using the catflap and defecating outside (in the waste ground at the back of my house, or wherever). One of them only uses the tray intermittently.

Should they have separate trays? Also, the ginger one has an unpleasant habit of peeing in my bed (under the duvet), so I've had to keep them out of my bedroom. Is this just a case of 'no kitty, stay out of there' type training?

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