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whatnow
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posted 07-03-2003 07:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi people. I bet most of you are in this forum for a reason. Prolly becuase you love cats. This is why I'm writing this now. its kinda long I know..

I have some confessions and questions.

First I will say that most of my life I've hated cats. There are a couple reasons but the main one was watching pet cemetery. That mavie blew it for me liking cats. After that point, I was like cats are evil.

This all began to change after me and my girlfriend went and adopted a kitten. I thought I could atleast try now that Im older. Things were ok for the first few weeks. having fun, playing.. but then things were going down hill. the cat at this point was like 8 months old. big cat too. well it started tearing up my work, like documents. I still at this point was mad.. but forgivefull. well things were not getting better. anytime I left anything of importance out, it was trashed. playing with the cat became a fang boxing match. my hands got tore up everytime. but then he started biting and still being a bad cat. It got to the point were I was starting to hate the cat more and more. while I was feeling this way about the cat, he still kept doing bad stuff and pissing me off untill one day I caught him ripping through some important mail and it set me off.. I grabbed him and chucked his ass. at this point I was like F*** the cat. but he was here to stay. my gf didnt care about her mail and never had documents on a desk because Im the one working at home. so anyways.. me and that cat were enemies for a while. Then I went off for a 2 month trip to germany and when I came back, I decided to start over with the cat. I did everything nice. never touched him again unless it was to pet him, hold him, or play with him. I swear Ive treated this cat sooo good for the longest time. over a year now. like a king.. I give em treats.. hang out with em.. shit, I even talk to em.. Things have been good. but, today.. I had him outside just to let em be out the house for a while. this was not the first either. we have taken him outside before and watched to make sure he dont take off. but one time she took em out and he jammed. I had to go look for em. I found em and brought him home. Ever since then she dont want him outside. but I still take him out once in a while. hes been pretty good about it. today though, I was out with him for like 20 min and I went to pick him up and he stabbed my arm with his fangs.. like deep.. I hope it didnt hit a vein because it was bleeding hardcore and its kinda sore.. but after he bit me I was like oh hell no... I grabbed him by the back of his neck and took em inside and gave him a pretty good kick.. I was so pissed.. I was doing him a favor.. things were good for like a year and now this.. I was really mad. I yelled at em and freakn kicked em again when he hissed and growled.lol. but I feel bad now. because I have developed a pet love for em. so I waited for a while calmed down and went out and pet em and gave em some treats. he actually purred... this cat dont purr for anyone.. and he loves my gf..

well.. I know this was long and maybe pointless.. but I still wanted to write it.

I would appreciate some tips though. maybe on how to get along with ( smokey ) our cat.

I would love to know how to train him to do things and or be a better cat.

so whatever pointer I can get or even some links to information, that would be great.

Chris

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katkrazy
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From:Cleveland, OH, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted 07-03-2003 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katkrazy     Edit/Delete Message
Well Chris, you're not the first to have a "psycho cat" so be sure to know that you're not the only one to have ups and downs with your cat. Although I have to say - that kicking your cat is not very cool. I know in the heat of the moment you just want to kick its little ass half way to the moon, but you need to learn other ways to disciplin Smokey. You can cause serious internal injuries that could even kill the little fur ball. I know your gf would not be happy with ya in that case. You seem to really want some advice on how to deal with kitty so I'll lend you some tips. First of all, no more kicking, hitting or spanking kitty - it hurts him, and well - doesn't make us cat lovers happy to hear about it - okay. Please try to stop that, if you get mad take it out on something else. If Smokey does something bad, its important to disciplin him while he is committing the act, not later - becasue this will confuse him about what he really did wrong, thus he continues to do it.

When he does bad - try first to clap your hands one loud time (this startles him) and say "NO" with a firm voice - do not scream at him. This should let him know that when he does that...he gets startled or scared and should detain from doing it.
If this works, try to reamain consistant with the sound of your voice each time he does bad, and you can start to tone down the volume of your clap - eventually you can get to the point where only a snap of your fingers and the "NO" can help correct all of his bad behaviors. It's just *very* important to reamain consistant with him in this correction so he understands when you do this, whatever he is doing is bad and he should stop doing it.
If this manner of correction does not work at all, I would suggest the "water gun" technique. Not too many cat lovers like it because it should be a last resort for behavior modification or correction.
Get a water pistol or a spray bottle that has the "stream" capability. When Smokey is doing something bad, spray him *ONCE* and say "NO" - as cats usually don't like water they stop immediately when they feel the water and run away from it. When they hear that "NO" coming from you they will know that whatever they were doing is bad or not allowed.
*Above all - when smokey does good things or stops something bad when you tell him "NO" it is very important that you praise him. Tell him he's a good boy and give him a pet or scratch behind the ears - they like that sometimes

Hope this helps you Chris - please don't kick Smokey any more ok. Keep us posted and good luck.

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wantedcrazychick
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From:Youngstown, OH USA
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posted 07-03-2003 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wantedcrazychick     Edit/Delete Message
I've got a "psycho cat" myself that loves to bite and tear up stuff. The method that Katkrazy was talking about worked great for him. Does he give you any warning that he's going to bite? Watch him really carefully, Sage loves to stare at the place he wants to bite and then crouches and switches his tail right before he's ready to go for it. I avoided a lot of scratches because of his giveaway because I could move away before he would do it. If he's tearing up your files, you could keep them in the heavy type three ring binder. Sage loved to pounce on my old training records for my horses that are really important because I need to be able to go back and see different things that I used when I'm working. I got so mad! I tried putting them where he couldn't get to them, but he always found a way. The binder worked wonders, as long as I close it he can't do anything to the papers because he's not sure how to get them open. As for your mail, I wouldn't put it down before you open it and maybe stick the important stuff in an empty drawer or something. It's nice that you are trying to get along with Smokey, but the hitting and kicking won't help. I read somewhere that that could actually make a cat more aggressive. Hope this helps, too.

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Alleysmom
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Registered: Jul 2003

posted 07-03-2003 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alleysmom     Edit/Delete Message
I understand your frustration but think about it in the cats point of view! If someone was yelling or whelping on you would you come to them or trust them? I have always had strays for pets. I live in an apartment and people are always leaving their cat when they move. And usually they are pregnant! I have found when dealing with a psycho kitty that it takes a lot of patience and determination to steer the cat into knowing that you are to be trusted. Cats are very complex little ones and sense when someone doesn't like them or cats in general. My current cats are prime examples that cats can be taught to be loving and affectionate. The mother cat was a stray, pregnant and would not even come close to letting me pet her. She would growl like a dog and bite me every time I came close. But I just kept feeding her and talking to her and finally when she let me start petting her I brought her inside and just kept it up and she has turned into the best cat I have ever had! I ended up keeping one of her kittens. And needless to say she is spoiled rotten. Try to always be the one feeding them that usually helps because I have found when a cat thinks that you are the food machine they pay more attention to you! Take the time to spend some quality time with your kitty, like playing and just petting them. I know its hard when the cat is biting not to just smack the heck out of them but sometimes a strong voice and a look will do the trick. I have a habit of telling my cats "Bad Dog" when they do something wrong. As all cat lovers know, there are no bad cats just bad dogs! I have found that cats can be trained or at least let you think you have them trained but in reality they train you! I wish you lots of luck with your kitty and hope that things work out.

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