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seeweed
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From:basking ridge, nj
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posted 06-15-2003 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeweed   Click Here to Email seeweed     Edit/Delete Message
I am hoping that someone has had experience with gelding an older stallion. I went to a sport horse sale this past weekend and saw a horse that I absolutely love. The horse is a spotted draft stallion but his behavior seemed a little questionable. Of course he was in a different barn than his own and there were plenty of mares right next door. The owner took him out of his stall for me but he looked like he wanted to charge off and was stomping the ground. Woo scary. But he was not attempting to bite. He is a 2000 or so pound animal. My question is, If I get this animal and geld him, will his behavior calm down at this point because he is over 4 years old? The owner says he has been ridden on trails and at least green broke, so I was also wondering if I had a trainer work with him if this is a lengthy process where I could get him to be a sound safe trail horse?

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wantedcrazychick
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From:Youngstown, OH USA
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posted 06-16-2003 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wantedcrazychick   Click Here to Email wantedcrazychick     Edit/Delete Message
I gelded my Quarter/Arab stallion at five years old and it didn't really help. He still loved his girls . We also had a gelding that had been gelded late at my school and he acted studdish, but I attribute that to him just having bad manners.If you have a good trainerI say they always help, but the fact that he's been a stallion this long might leave him in the stallion frame of mind. From what you wrote, he doesn't sound bad for being in a new environment. My twenty year old mare loves to snort it up and act like she's tough, but she's a doll for beginners. Would you be able to see how he acts on his own turf? Another question to ask is even if you did geld him, would you be confident enough to handle him knowing that he was so recently gelded?

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Dori
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posted 06-20-2003 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dori   Click Here to Email Dori     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Everyone, I'm new here and wanted to respond to this one. Gelding an older horse will settle them down to a very small degree. But the behavior you described is not good. But again as wantedcrazychick said he might have been acting like that because of where he was and all the excitement. Keep this in mind tho, he will always know what a mare in heat smells like.

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Dinah
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posted 07-08-2003 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dinah   Click Here to Email Dinah     Edit/Delete Message
If you buy a stallion, unless you have a breeding operation and have experience dealing with stallions, you will always be better off to geld him. There are too many mediocre stallions in this world who would make lovely geldings.

Many times the stallions act they way they do because they have not been socialized with other horses. It does take some time for the hormones that make him a stallion leave his body. But that is still better than leaving him intact and will be worth it in the end.

Of course, the best thing is to talk to a vet and ask how long you could expect to see a change in behavior.

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demingletsride
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posted 07-10-2003 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for demingletsride   Click Here to Email demingletsride     Edit/Delete Message
I gelded a breeding stallion at the age of 4 and he was very studdy from the ground but his behavior under saddle hardly ever exposed he was a stallion. I had a trainer friend once tell me that bad behavior as a stallion could never be corrected by gelding the horse,fix the behavior problems first and then geld him. My stallion changed imediatly. I let a 12 year old girl show him in walk trot 8 weeks after he was gelded and there was a mare in heat in the class. He acted prefect. I knew he was a good stallion and he made a great gelding. I wouldn't begin to say all stallions will adjust as well as mine did and I think what we know as a proud cut is worst than a stallion, they are usely let to run the pastures to torment the mares and bully the other geldings. Good luck on your choose and if it is to buy and geld him get some expert advice on how to change his behavior. I do know that a stallion is a different animal with different drives and you can't just treat them like a gelding or mare and you really need to let them have thier pride and respect or they can turn on you. Many people believe that domanating them is a way of controlling them, not me I believe if you make a enemy of them they will hurt you when they get a chance, remember make the punishment fit the crime and make it fair and just, a tit for a tat and he will respect you and want to please you not fear you.
Carol

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MoJo145
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posted 07-25-2003 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoJo145   Click Here to Email MoJo145     Edit/Delete Message
Be careful! Stallions need to be handled by people who are experienced with stallions, espeically ones bought "blind" from sales! If you are looking for this horse to compete on with the behaviour you describe it sounds like he wouldnt be suitable anyway. Gelding a horse over the age of 2-3 is a futile thing and does little to "calm" thier behaviour, they will almost always act like a stallion and display stallion behaviour when the mares are in season (if not all the time) It is probably likely he will have to be kept seperate from other geldings as well as other mares even when he is gelded as his instincts will probably tell him to establish himself as a "herd leader" Never mind the problems you would have with him mounting other mares and the kicking/biting and general fighting between him and the more dominant geldings. My advice would be to look for a horse who is already gelded and not to cause yourself problems and possible heartache with this stallion.

Jo

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