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Pauline
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posted 01-09-2003 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pauline     Edit/Delete Message
Terrible mess and rush to judgement by the unravelling mind of these cops that stopped this innocent family. Seems father forgot wallet on hood, drove off, money flew off, people called in to the cops of possible carjacking, and family stopped, handcuffed, begged cops to close car doors cause of family dogs inside, and one dog jumps out with tail wagging and friendly (video as proof), and dog shot to the head. Family mistreated bigtime. I hope and pray they sue. No excuse for a rush to insanity like that on behalf of cops. They went nuts. Guns on the family after as they cried and asked "why" over and over. Unreal. Heartbreaking. They should all be fired. Gunhappy and unsafe themselves. That dog was not attacking at all.

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Doc Helladay
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posted 01-09-2003 03:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Pauline, what state was this? I did not see this new news, but NOT ALL but alot are corrupt. I am sure glad they are being exposed. More and more people are not standing for their police misconduct. Two months ago at a town not too far from me the sherrif showed up for a party people were having she went for her taser killed him instantly. I wrote a poem and sent it to the family, it has made alot of news in California. I hope this family below gets a good atty. By the way most of the time cops do this stuff they cover it up by saying that the person they are arresting was resisting arrest and so forth. Bad part about cops doing wrong is this, the county or city pays for all their costs including their defense, out of our tax dollars..to get bad cops out of trouble I have even seen in the past some officers if a complaint is made about them, their punishment maybe only be a 1 hr suspsension..amazing isnt it (sigh)
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puttin510
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posted 01-09-2003 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
Pauline I was switching channels last night and I breifly caught this, I was watching to see if they were to say anything about it but ended up changing the channel. God that just makes me sick, it brought tears to my eyes finding out from your post that the dog was friendly. From what I saw the policee were pretty weary of this dog, They probably thought it was a pit bull. I saw the family yelling, but I only saw it for about5 seconds. This is so sad.

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Russ
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posted 01-10-2003 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
'Felony stop' leaves family traumatized
Mary Jo Denton
Herald-Citizen Staff

It was the most traumatic experience the Smoak family of North Carolina has ever had, and it happened yesterday afternoon as they traveled through Cookeville on their way home from a vacation in Nashville.
Before their ordeal was over, three members of the family had been yanked out of their car and handcuffed on the side of Interstate 40 in downtown Cookeville, and their beloved dog, Patton, had been shot to death by a police officer as they watched.

What was their crime?

There was no crime.

But a passerby with a cell phone apparently assumed a crime had occurred when a wallet flew from a car on Interstate 40 near Nashville.

That citizen called police and inadvertently set in motion what would make it the most horrible vacation the James Smoak family of Saluda, North Carolina, has ever had.

Today, the Smoak children and their parents were still weeping over what happened to them in Cookeville.

By today, they had also filed complaints with two police agencies, prompting internal investigations, they had met with Tennessee Highway Patrol Capt. Randy Hoover, and they were on their way to talk to Cookeville Mayor Charles Womack.

Because official internal investigations are underway at the Tennessee Highway Patrol and at the Cookeville Police Dept., the Herald-Citizen was unable to get details of those two agencies' accounts of the incident.

But the Smoak family willingly told their story to anyone who would listen; they hope by doing so that something might be done to prevent it from happening to another family.

James Smoak, 38, who was traveling in the family station wagon with his wife, Pamela, their 17-year-old son, Brandon, and the family's two pet bulldogs, Patton and Cassie, had lost his wallet after stopping for gas as they left Davidson County on Wednesday afternoon.

But he didn't know he lost it. Apparently, he had placed it on top of the car while pumping gas, and it flew off somewhere on the highway a short time later.

Not knowing his wallet was lost, he and his family traveled on, heading east on their way home to North Carolina.

A few cars behind James and Pamela's station wagon, his parents and the two younger Smoak children were traveling in the elder Smoak's car.

Just a few miles east of Cookeville, James Smoak began to notice that a THP squad car was following him, though the officer was not pulling him over, just staying behind him, changing lanes any time Smoak did, moving in and out of traffic each time Smoak did.

"It was obvious he was looking at me, not at other vehicles, and I'm thinking I must have done something (in my driving), but I don't know what," Smoak said today.

When Smoak reached the 287 exit area in Cookeville, three other police cars suddenly appeared, and the trooper then turned on blue lights and pulled the Smoak car over.

"I immediately pulled to the side, and expecting him to come to the window, I started reaching for my wallet to get my license and it was not there," Smoak said.

About that time, he heard the officer broadcast orders over a bullhorn, telling him to toss the keys out the car window and get out with his hands up and walk backwards to the rear of the car.

Still not knowing what he was being stopped for, Smoak obeyed, and when he reached the back of the car, with a gun pointed at Smoak, the trooper ordered him to get on his knees, face the back of the car and put his head down.

When he did that, the officer handcuffed him and placed him in the patrol car. Then the same orders were blared over the bullhorn to "passenger" and Pamela Smoak got out with her hands up, was ordered to the ground, held at gunpoint, and handcuffed. Next, Brandon was ordered out and handcuffed in the same way.

Terrified at what was happening to them for no reason they knew, the family was also immediately concerned about their two pet dogs being left in the car there on the highway with the car doors open.

"We kept asking the officers -- there were several officers by now -- to close the car doors because of our dogs, but they didn't do it," said Pamela Smoak.

And as the officers worked in the late evening darkness, their weapons drawn as the Smoaks were being handcuffed, the dog Patton came out of the car and headed toward one of the Cookeville Police officers who was assisting the THP.

"That officer had a flashlight on his shotgun, and the dog was going toward that light and the officer shot him, just blew his head off," said Pamela Smoak.

"We had begged them to shut the car doors so our dogs wouldn't get out, and they didn't do that."

As the dog was heading out of the car toward the officer, "we had yelled, begging them to let us get him, but the officer shot him," she said.

Grieving for their dog and in shock over their apparent arrest for some unknown crime, the family could only wait. At one point, one state trooper did tell them they "matched the description" in a robbery that had occurred in Davidson County, Pamela Smoak said.

The ordeal went on for a time after that, the family terrified and in grief over the dog.

Finally, after a time, someone in Posted byity figured out that the officers here had stopped and were holding the very family that someone in Davidson County had assumed had been robbed, though how that assumption grew to the Posted byization for a felony stop, James Smoak cannot understand, he said today.

"Finally, they asked me my name and I told them my name, date of birth, and other information, and they talked by radio to someone in Davidson County and finally realized that a mistake had been made," he said.

"A lady in Davidson County had seen that wallet fly off our car and had seen money coming out of it and going all over the road, and somehow that became a felony and they made a felony stop, but no robbery or felony had happened," Pamela Smoak said.

"Apparently, they had listened to some citizen with a cell phone and let her play detective down there," said James Smoak.

"Here we are just a family on vacation, and we had to suffer this."

When the officers did discover the mistake, "they said, 'Okay, we're releasing you and we're sorry,'" Smoak said.

As soon as Brandon was released from the handcuffs, he rushed over to the dead dog and began to cry, Smoak said.

And that's when one of the most infuriating parts of the ordeal happened, according to James Smoak.

"I saw one of the THP officers walk over to the city officer who had shot the dog and grin," he said.

He reported that to the supervising officer, THP Lt. Jerry Andrews, and Andrews "was very nice, very professional," Smoak said.

"He told me the officer was not laughing, but I know he was," said Smoak.

Smoak's parents had come along behind the other car and had seen all the commotion and stopped too, and now all three children were crying over their pet dog, as they were still doing today.

The Smoaks gathered the body of their pet and went to a motel here to spend the night. But they didn't get much rest, and at one point, James Smoak became so upset he had to go to the hospital for medical treatment.

They also worked throughout last night to contact all the Posted byities they could in order to lodge their complaints about what had happened.

Today, Beth Womack, a THP spokesperson in Nashville, told the H-C that an Internal Affairs investigation is underway and that every effort will be made to "find out exactly what happened and why."

"As I understand it, a report was made in Davidson County to our officers that this car had been seen leaving at a high rate of speed and that a significant amount of money had come out of the car and someone became suspicious," she said.

An internal investigation is also underway at the Cookeville Police Dept., Capt. Nathan Honeycutt told the H-C today.

James Smoak wonders about the logic of "a robber who would be tossing the money out of the car."

He also wonders about police procedure that would "take this insinuation from a citizen" and "turn it into what happened to us."

"Out there after they handcuffed us at gunpoint and put us in the police cars, they did not ask for ID, and later on, they actually released us just on my word about my identity, with only the confirmation by radio from an officer in Davidson County who was looking at my lost wallet and the ID in it down there," he said. "What if I actually had been a robber and not just a family man on vacation?"

His children hope they never come to Tennessee for another vacation.

"Poor Patton," said 13-year-old Jeb Smoak. "When he was killed out there, it was the first time I ever saw my brother, Brandon, cry. Brandon is the toughest person I've ever met, and he cried."

The other dog, a puppy named Cassie, was "trembling all over" after the ordeal, Jeb Smoak said.

"She's being real quiet today. She knows we're all grieving."

James Smoak, though still deeply upset today, said he understands that "the officer will say the dog was coming after him."

But it could all have been prevented, didn't have to happen, he is convinced.

In addition to telling his family's story to Capt. Randy Hoover, who "was very nice and very professional," and to a Cookeville Police official last night and to Mayor Womack today, Smoak also plans to tell his lawyer, he said.

"And I also want to tell it to the Tennessee Department of Tourism," he said.

Published January 02, 2003 11:54 AM CST

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 01-10-2003 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THEM.THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW SOME COPS ARE.THEY ARE SUPPOST TO BE THE GOOD GUYS,BUT MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE A**ES.
THAT POOR DOG DIED FOR NO REASON.IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ME,AND THEY SHOT MY DOG,I WOULD HAVE BEEN GOING TO JAIL.BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE KICKED HIS BUTT.
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE SMOAK FAMILY.I AM SORRY FOR THEIR LOSS AND I HOPE THEY MAKE THOSE COPS PAY FOR WHAT THEY DONE.

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Pauline
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posted 01-11-2003 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pauline     Edit/Delete Message
You all can see the whole thing on video on CNN. Even the governor and his wife were disgusted. It was evident this dog in the brief moment we saw, was just jumping out of the car, no attack. These cops and many more these days I think are watching each other on these TV shows and thinking they have to yell, be forceful from the get-go. Jumping to conclusions based on 1 call about money flying. What happened to getting all the facts first ????? Guilt before innocence. To hear them cry over their dog and they did nothing, absolutely nothing, puts fear in us honest folk over these nutty cops, increasing by number every day. When the job gets to you over simple stuff like a report of money flying in the air, time to get that cop OFF the force and into intense counseling. He is uncontrollable, irrational. God help us.

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Doc Helladay
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posted 01-11-2003 07:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I finally saw the tape tonight, I started crying, almost a hour. The video makes me sick. I am in California, but I will see if I can get a address for the internal affairs, Attorney General there, for me I am definately going to write a letter. If others want to in regards to this officers misconduct, either way I will find the address and post it here. This officer even if he said he "thought" the dog was coming after him, that will not be enough for him to get off. From the information I have seen so far, and with witnesses stating to close the car doors, that it total disregard for animal safety. Also with it being on a freeway or a exit by the officers not closing the doors they were making after all the other crap they did, created a unsafe situation for other drivers on the road if but so many laws the officers broke here. I could name at least 15 pc codes just here in the state of california. But nothing is going to bring their dog back, and for the children to see this. No one should have to go through something like that ever, no matter what this family its far from over on the tramatic scars these officers have done to them. That cop that shot that dog is like a virus, that was my husbands comment tonight, and it seems like this virus is getting bigger and bigger and happening more and more. 2 years ago a lil deer that was brought out of a forest fire was brought home by a fireman to his own community of folk that live in the mountains, he was a pet of 35 families and bottled fed by them. Deer visited all the people every day since it was a baby...Some chp came along..saw it and shot it as it ran away. CHP wasnt suspended but just relocated...sigh lil guy would even attened the local weddings there too. I hope they sent that CHP to $$$$. For those of you that haven't watched the tape..its very heartbreaking so for those that haven't I know how it made me feel, might want to think twice. "why dont they go out and find the real criminals you know why not? they dont want to get shot"
A Very saddened heartbroken Doc~

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Albert
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posted 01-11-2003 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Albert     Edit/Delete Message
Could someone post a link to the video. I was unable to find it on CNN.

What an horrible story. Poor Family at the wrong place at the wrong time. Police brutality at new record highs. This cop should be kicked off the force and pay damages. Brainless tug !!

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Russ
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