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Groovo_em
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From:N.S.W.
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posted 10-17-2003 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Groovo_em     Edit/Delete Message
I HAVE JUST BROUGHT A NEW SIMEASE FIGHTING FISH ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND JUST TODAY HE STARTED FLOATING ON HIS SIDE AND TWICHING EVERY NOW AND THEN. I CAN SEE HIM BRETHING AND WHATS IS WRONGE WITH HIM HOW CAN I MAKE HIM BETTER PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME SOON I AM WORRIED!!!

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weird1973
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posted 10-18-2003 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird1973     Edit/Delete Message
He might just be a sick puppy anyhow, or maybe his new home is not right.

Bettas have very strong personalities , and while they are probably one of most sturdiest fish in adapting to changing environments, they certainly have strong personalities in what they like and don't like.

I have 5 females, and 2 males.

1 male and 1 female are in a community tank (70 litres), and they virtually ignore each other and every other fish in the tank.

The other male is in a medium tank by himself (20 litres) , and the remaining 4 females in different combinations will kill each other and most likely nip any other type of fish (they took chunks from a few of my guppies fins). I have these 5 fish in separate tanks , about 20 cms by 10 cms. (I divided up a large tank just for these guys).

Quick anwser to your question:

A. You fish has basic needs which might not be met, like air (betta), good water and not water temperature fluctuations, and space which the fish feels comfortable with (some bettas like big other like smallish but not too small.)

B. You fish might be stressed due to the above not being met.

C. Your fish might be sick due to stress or another reason.

D. Your fish might be have a odd behaviour - but unlikey if he is constantly on his side. One of my males, will loosely flop over a plant for a few minutes a day, and to me, he is just chilling.

E. Diet. They love blood worms.

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I was lucky with my betas in the sense that I have an existing large community tank, and I used the water from that tank to set up the tanks for my betas.

However it took about 2 months to get the water right for my community tank (not 1 week) , until now I have had no deaths (4 months now) of over 40 fish and about 25 guppy babies and too many snails being born. During the first 2 months I lost about 1-2 fish a week.

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If this is your first fish, don't be upset if he meets the fish carer in the sky.


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gr8fuljames
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posted 10-18-2003 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gr8fuljames     Edit/Delete Message
weird1973 just what did you mean by the basic requirments for air concerning a beta?

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weird1973
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posted 10-18-2003 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird1973     Edit/Delete Message
IF my tank has a lid, I make sure that there is a nice gap between the water line, and the top of the lid for air, as fight fish like to breath from the surface.

My other lil tanks have a latice like lid to ensure fresh air comes in.

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gr8fuljames
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posted 10-19-2003 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gr8fuljames     Edit/Delete Message
Just making sure you were not one of those who insist that the beta needs an air pump.
Theirs alot of them out there I don't know where they come up with this stuff.

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t_h_e_s_a_c_k
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From:Surrey, B.C., Canada
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posted 10-19-2003 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_h_e_s_a_c_k     Edit/Delete Message
it's possible your betta may have had a stroke... what are you water perameters?

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t_h_e_s_a_c_k
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posted 10-19-2003 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_h_e_s_a_c_k     Edit/Delete Message
it's possible your betta may have had a stroke... what are you water perameters?

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TR
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posted 10-19-2003 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TR     Edit/Delete Message
Betcha have your betta in a bowl huh? Your fish is dying. Do a water change now, and think about it.
Bettas die in bowls. Ammonia levels build up to intolerable levels in uncycled 'bowls' and tanks and will kill nearly any fish in there. Get an aquarium, don't put males with any other fish, cycle the tank, use a heater and a filter. The reason bettas need "air" is because they are "labyrinth" fish. They breathe air through a hole in their head (like the hole in a whales head) as well as through gills. This is esp important to bettas kept in bowls because there is usually no circulated oxygen in the water. If you have the fish in a bowl, you need to change half the water at least three times a week, and do a complete water change once a week (empty enough water so the betta has just enough to swim in and replace with new--siphon the water out, don't pour it out--shaking the fish around stresses it) treat new water with a dechlorinator, and keep an airspace of AT LEAST an inch between the top of the water and a lid. Do not put an airtight lid on the bowl but do have some kind of cover over the top. Bettas are sensitive to air temperature as well as water temperature and keeping a cover on it helps keep the temperature static. If you are keeping it in a bowl, you've probably heard that bettas also like plants. A very small plant that leaves lots of surface available to the betta is okay. They do like to "hide" in the roots. Make sure fish poop doesn't collect on the bottom of the bowl (vacuum/siphon it out with every water change). Also, feed the fish a good quality betta food (hikari bio gold is the one I used when I had bettas--they like it) and only give them as much as they will eat in five minutes, a couple times a day. Remove any uneaten food or you increase the ammonia build up risk. I have a female betta in a community 30 gallon aquarium now but can't put her in with fry, or smaller fish like neon tetras or she will kill them and eat them. I tried putting her in a ten gallon tank with a male but he wore her to a frazzle and beat himself up pretty good in the process. Females usually get along with each other. She's in with three mollys, two zebra danios, a chinese algae eater and a couple of platys and doing fine with them. Male bettas unfortunately, don't get along with anyone usually and have to be kept in a tank alone.

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tuttifrutti
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posted 10-20-2003 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuttifrutti     Edit/Delete Message
Do you dechlorinate, or dechloramine, whatever the tap water? Or do u use drinkingwater. That may b ur problem. They don't necessarily have 2 b in an aquraium w/ a heater and everything. I have had bettas that lived 3-4 yrs. in a bowl. I don't no about any of my other 1s yet, i have only had them a few months. Yes, if there is a lid they definately need about 3-4 inches of air between teh water and the lid. Hope ur fishy feels better soon
P.S.- What's its name?

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