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gr8fuljames
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posted 09-25-2003 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gr8fuljames     Edit/Delete Message
A couple of things I've been pondering. I have tried to research this but found nothing on the life span of a parasite. What I'm wondering is can a parasite live with no host. I would believe without a host it would die off after some time. How long would it be before it died.

Here is what I did. I set up a new 55 to move my juvy red devil into. This female red devil being one of my prize fish I take very good care of and don't want to cycle the tank with her. As a result I bioseeded the new 55 with another 55 that contains a jack dempsy and a tigar oscar. Soon after this I found out the oscar had a parasite.

Here's where I'm at now. At the time I didn't want to tear it down and start over and still don't. Also I don't want to medicate a 55 with expensive meds. I have kept the bio system supported in the new tank by adding a small pinch of flakes to create a small amount of amonia to simulate a populated tank. My thinking was I'll find out later, well later was here yesterday and I still can't find anything on this subject.

So has anyone heard or does anyone know if a parasite can live without a host and how long. Please don't reply on a guess or a hunch I have plenty of those. If unable to verify that they cannot live I will medicate the empty tank.

(oops I clicked on a winker instead of a thinker)
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kc5gvn
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posted 09-25-2003 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
Of course they can. Ick is a parasite. It is always present in the water in a dormant state until bacterial conditions or rapid temperature change make it active.

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gr8fuljames
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posted 09-26-2003 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gr8fuljames     Edit/Delete Message
Yea I guess your right didn't think of it that way. Another question that I forgot the first time. If something is dry say gravel vacuum/tank/filter and so on what do you think could survive on it being dry and for some time. I would think many forms of bacteria could survive wet or dry but the parasites would probably die off.

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posted 09-27-2003 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
Bacteria needs two things to survive, warmth and moisture. Even though the gravel or filter is dry, if there is enough humidity and warm air it could survive but the ppm would probably be a lot smaller than in the normal environment.

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