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posted 09-12-2003 06:51 AM            

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I ran across this recently and I'm not sure
if I believe it or not. Do you buy this "theory" or not? Everyones feedback would be interesting.

http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plants/month.200309/msg00269.html

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posted 09-12-2003 08:33 AM            

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WOW..............
you know that makes sense!!???!!
now im confused Ph has always been a big concern, but now im not sure.

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posted 09-12-2003 11:48 PM         

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I read that article and found it sad that after a half-century he is still at the same place he started from. Fish do go into PH shock from rapid PH changes. Externally humans have the ability to tolerate a larger PH range than fish and are more adaptable to PH change. It is a waste of time to compare a human in a swimming pool for 1 hour with acid PH to a fish in an aquarium with acid PH 24/7! Try sticking your hand in a jar of pickle juice for an hour and tell me acid PH has no effect.He also completely disregards the internal effects of PH. The most accurate thing I found in the article was in the heading where he referred to the article as diviantthread.

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posted 09-13-2003 05:26 AM            

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I'm glad to see that someone else is skeptical. I was from the start, being a witness of what I believed to be ph shock. This is why I refered to this as a "theory" in "". So kc it sounds like you've heard this one before. I'm just glad everything I thought I knew is right. This guy is leading a lot of people down the wrong path at another message board that I go to.

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posted 09-13-2003 06:01 AM            

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O.k. I posted a reply but don't see it so forgive me if I doublepost.
o.k. doublepost, sorry.

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[This message has been edited by gr8fuljames (edited 09-13-2003).]

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posted 09-13-2003 11:53 PM         

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I hadn't heard it before. After your post I followed the link and read it. I may have been a bit rough on him, but the way he posted it was as a statemnt of fact not theory. If it is theory, he should use scientific method to test it before posting it. It is too easy for someone especially new to the hobby to be misled by that type of information. The best advice on these type posts is to follow what is the normal recommended procedure. When I was young and dateing I used to joke "eight million women can't be wrong", it kind of applies here, "eight million aquarists can't be wrong". The other day I ran across what appeared to be a good board with some really good information that followed scientific method. I'll try to locate that link and post it for you.

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posted 09-14-2003 04:47 PM            

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Hmm...I'm not a scientist and have keep fish as a hobby but here's what I don't understand...fish don't just swim in water they breathe water...and they can't live outside of water for more than...I don't want to say how long because I try to keep fish in water...humans live on land and breath air...we don't stay under water for very long without the use of scuba gear or submersive vehicles...I'm not the greatest at math and I'm trying to put 2 and 2 together....keep getting four and this guy sounds like he's getting 3...my point being I agree with KC...the argument comparing fish and humans...does the phrase "apples and oranges" come to mind for anyone else?

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