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pacuguy
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posted 07-30-2003 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pacuguy   Click Here to Email pacuguy     Edit/Delete Message
Last night i got up to get a drinkand looked in the tank as i went by and to my horror all my fish were on the bottomand not moving, the pacus the oscar even the pleco was not moving. i thought they were all dead so i reached into the tank to check if they were dead i could push the pacus around and they wouldnt react they were alive but wouldnt respond (anyone who has now or ever had pacus knows they are easily spooked!!) and they looked like they were turning black.

So i imediately removed the carbon filters and add the recomended amount of "Quick Cure"
and went to bed hoping i would not have a tank full of dead buddies when i woke up.

this morning i checked on them (as usual) and they are back to there old selves the pacus are active and eating and the oscar is begging at the top as he always does when i enter the room.
im gonna keep an eye on them closely today.
does anyone know why this happened?

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ArrOwAnA
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posted 07-30-2003 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArrOwAnA   Click Here to Email ArrOwAnA     Edit/Delete Message
usually when i find a fish on the bottom(besides catfish) its usualy dead
one weird thing was when my small pleco died
i looked in the tank and there was a dead pleco standing on his tail fin spinning around it looked like he was a ballerina

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CrazyTanks
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posted 07-30-2003 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyTanks   Click Here to Email CrazyTanks     Edit/Delete Message
it seemed like my pacus used to "play" dead whenever the texas cichlids were breeding so that they wouldn't get attacked, and they did turn a dark, maybe they're getting picked on by something else in the tank?

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kc5gvn
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posted 07-31-2003 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
This is only a guess pacuguy but the rapidity that the tank went sour, I would check to see if there is some uneaten food around the base of your rocks or plants in the tank. I lost a tank of RBP's from that. I was in a rush to get to work one morning and just dropped in a little beef heart. They didn't eat all of it and it had soured the water and killed all 6 of them by 9pm that night.

PS - I hope your fish are still doing OK.

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pacuguy
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posted 07-31-2003 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pacuguy   Click Here to Email pacuguy     Edit/Delete Message
i did a 25% water change, vacuumed the gravel the tank water is now a brown yellow colour. i think your right to much waste.
the pacus are still black from about mid body down!!!!!
why is this?
they rule the tank, theres only the 2 pacus one oscar and one pleco in the tank
i noticed the pleco has been getting very aggresive. maybe this is the pacu problem?

anyone have an aggresive pleco?

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kc5gvn
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posted 07-31-2003 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
The lower body being black with charcoal upper body is really a normal coloration not necessarily associated with stress. I've seen them go from solid charcoal to half and half and back to solid in a 24 hour period with no change in tank conditions. It was the other symptoms that had me concerned. Regarding agressive pleco. I tried adding a Pacu to my Arowana's tank. The Plecostamus I had in there would continually move into the Pacu's way and nudge him. He wasn't really being agressive just a general pain in the posterior for the Pacu! I ended up returning the Pacu because he nipped the tail of my Arowana. The Arow's tail grew back and he's fine.

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pacuguy
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posted 08-01-2003 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pacuguy   Click Here to Email pacuguy     Edit/Delete Message
thank you kc5gvn i was starting to worry about there colour.

About the colour of the water its starting to clear (slowly) its much beter than the other day its still has far to go but its better.
the tank is getting lots of filtration i have a aquaclear 300 and a millenium 3000 on a 75 gal and serious considering getting rid of the aquaclear and getting another millenium 3000. im also considering getting a canister filter too a fluval maybe any ideas.
Pleco = Evil
yesterday one of the pacus was digging through the gravel and the pleco raced up to him and stuck to his side the poor pacu had to shake him off. this is weird.

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dianenm
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posted 08-01-2003 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dianenm     Edit/Delete Message
I've read that plecos will suck on other fishes slime sometimes. especially larger fish and discus. generally it's the 3-4 inch pleco that does this. I was surprised because I'd never heard of such a thing till I read about it! also, that larger plecos can get aggressive.
glad your fish are ok!

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kc5gvn
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posted 08-01-2003 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
I just run hanging and UG filters. After spending about 3 hours with a wet/dry vac at 2:00 in the morning because a Magnum got out of balance and wore a hole in the canister I quit using canister type. After hearing all the rave reviews on this website about the Fluval I decided to check on them. I spoke to one of the people at Petsmart. They told me they were great filters except after several filter changes there was a plastic piece on them that broke. It's been a while since I spoke to them but the best I can remember is that it was the catch. In any case what it amounted to was that the whole filter would have to be replaced to correct the problem. The only canister type filter that I use is a Diatom filter once a week and it doesn't run all the time, just a gravel stir and filter. Like I've said a lot of my methods are old fashioned but they still seem to work. In any case I would leave the filters you have on there in place.

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Stacie
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posted 08-05-2003 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stacie   Click Here to Email Stacie     Edit/Delete Message
I've had a Chinese algae eater suggested to me by a co-worker who's kept fish for along time. But, when I researched them I read that when they reach adult size they feed off of the slime coat of other fish (a nightmare). I have a Pleco now and he's an extremely timid guy (even at 7 inches long and 8 years old).
I even had a Betta in a big bowl next to the aquarium at one time and the Betta would actually flare at him (this was a very aggressive Betta, btw) and the pleco quickly swam off to the opposite of the tank even those this Betta wasn't any bigger then the plecos mouth. That aggression does seem really odd.

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