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texaspit New Member Posts: 8 |
posted 10-10-2003 08:48 AM
just curious because i read an article that talked about an old dogman named john p. colby, and i was just wondering if he had anything to do with creating to the colby line? any feed back is appriciated, thanks guys for all your help. [This message has been edited by texaspit (edited 10-10-2003).] IP: Logged |
Angie Member Posts: 57 |
posted 10-10-2003 10:16 AM
What is a dogman? IP: Logged |
texaspit New Member Posts: 8 |
posted 10-10-2003 01:01 PM
when someone talks about a "dogman" or a "fancier" they are usually refering to someone who fights their dogs. it's sad but dog fighting is bigger than most people realize especially down here in texas, oklahoma, and louisiana. did any of you guys see the stuff on nate newton? (played for the dallas cowboys) he used to have dog fights at his house!!! thats what got him involved with all the marijuana, according to michael irvin. when i was stationed at fort hood i knew a guy who bred abpt's. his dogs were all mean as hell though. he told me about a litter of pups that killed and ate one of their litter mates. he just bred for "dead game", meaning they would fight until they were dead. it sucks, but dog fighting rings are really hard for police to bust because it's nearly impossible to catch them in the act. and meanwhile we have byb's breeding all the wrong traits into our breed (size, human aggression, and genetic diseases). it's just a sad situation for our pit bulls. i'm just worried that things may get worse for them before they get better. anyways, sorry i got off topic and rambled a bit http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2149910 [This message has been edited by texaspit (edited 10-10-2003).] [This message has been edited by texaspit (edited 10-10-2003).] IP: Logged |
goob Member Posts: 353 |
posted 10-10-2003 01:59 PM
Yes, lines are sometimes named after the person or kennel who started breeding dogs of that line (like Colby), or there are others that I can't remember right now), or after one foundation dog of that line (Jeep, Chinaman, Redboy, etc). Here's the website for Colby APBTs if you want to read more: http://www.colbypitbull.com/ IP: Logged |
True_Pits Member Posts: 44 |
posted 10-14-2003 05:57 PM
Matching dogs has nothing to really do with drugs. Nate Newton would probably be into marajuana regardless of his dog preferences. dead game-refers to a dog that has died in a match and never quit. Scratched until death It died trying. Its not really something you can breed for, you breed for deep game dogs. Littermates may kill eachother but any respectable/responsible breeder would seperate the litter before that happens. It is sad, things have changed so much over the past few decades. After the animal welfare act more of these dogs got in public hands and were used for other things than their original purpose. A few of these were good, but many were not. Maybe at first it was just an accident,a couple bad tempermented pits were owned by someone other than a dogman and the person didn't cull and maybe those few pits attacked a couple people than it really started something. Every bad a** punk wanted a dog like that, drug dealers thought they would make killer guard dogs, even other people (like my neighbor) thought they would make really intimidating guard dogs, even though they end up biting little kids and are scared of anyone posing a real threat. Kind of sounds the way Canary Dogs are going now, I read an article online about Canary Dog breeders receiving calls from people asking them Do you breed the dogs that killed that lady in california. I want one like the dogs in california that killed that woman. or Do you have any pups that will grow up to be like the dogs that killed that woman I really want one like that? I guess maybe they are complete morons, no breeder is going to sell a dog to someone like that(I hope) they said its raised the breeds popularity so much and that is a scarey thought. To answer the question many lines are named after the dogman who made the line. John P Colby is one of the most famous dogmen who ever lived, he bred a lot of dogs. Virtually any line traces back to Colby dogs. The line is still maintained by his decendents. It is also still a popular line. Most are not game anymore however they have great conformation and are widely used as show/pull dogs. Some are still gamebred and some are crossed with game lines. Colby dogs are usually very impressive looking dogs. IP: Logged |
steve unregistered |
posted 10-26-2003 12:52 AM
I just wanna say that your wrong its the opposite most apbt's will quit some quit in 20 min 30 min 1 hour and only a hand few are the real deal. And another thing dogmen dont breed man aggresive dogs if they did they couldnt fight them cause of the refree and the other handlers they would lose automatically if it bit someone.Those guys kill man aggresive apbts.the street fighters are the ones that breed those mutts, the pro's dont they cant risk there bet. IP: Logged |
True_Pits Member Posts: 44 |
posted 10-26-2003 09:22 PM
you are right STEVE in the fact many and most dogs quit. But to say they are forced to fight and don't like it is wrong. And a lot of pet bull scatter bred dogs will inflict serious damage or even kill eachother if left alone and a fight starts. No one is there so seperate these dogs and I guess I should have stated this another way. When one kills the other it doesn't mean either were game at all, the one who was dead when you arrived probably did quit and the other may have continued the fight and then it was over after the other died. This doesn't prove either was game or not. Sorry for the misunderstanding guess i didn't make myself clear. And like I ALWAYS say gamebred pits are some of the most trustworthy and friendly dogs you can find. Those articles are mostly full of BS. i dont think anyone here is stating dogmen breed people aggressive dogs. If they are you are truly very wrong. The ones I see are pull dogs, some of these dogs are people mean. And all the mxing people have been registering as pure. A man biters here bite the bullet while two breeders of pull dogs I know have only made excuses for their dogs people aggression. IP: Logged |
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