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eastsydesfynest
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posted 09-12-2003 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eastsydesfynest   Click Here to Email eastsydesfynest     Edit/Delete Message
Is it true that the if you wait until the second heat of a pit you will throw bigger pits?

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MissMinaGirl
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posted 09-12-2003 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MissMinaGirl   Click Here to Email MissMinaGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Not to be inflammatory or anything like that, but why would you wish to throw larger dogs? One of the nice aspects of the APBT is the size - 30-60lbs being the most ideal weight range. I love my 44lb pooch and I cringe when I see 80lb Pit Bulls. Not that I love or respect them any less, but I just think it is a detriment to a breed that was once able to bring down 1800lb bulls...with a dog only weighing about 25lbs.

To answer your question, though, it is not likely that larger dogs will be produced if a bitch is bred in her second heat. Nutritional requirements, size of the dam and size of the sire are typically what determine the size of the pups.

Of course, my knowledge is simply based on Animal Genetics courses I have, and will continue to take, in college. I do not have any hands on experience with breeding Pit Bulls so perhaps someone who does wil be better equipped to handle your question.

Marji

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the_maine_pitbull
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posted 09-12-2003 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the_maine_pitbull   Click Here to Email the_maine_pitbull     Edit/Delete Message
Wow East-- For one, I would hope to God that you are not breeding your dog on the first heat.. For the health of the puppies and the mother itself, you should be waiting until the second or third heat anyways. Otherwise, you can have both dead mama and babies and a lot of problems. During the first heat, that mother is still a puppy herself and her body is not fully matured so you are risking some serious health issues with her, it is like a thirteen year old girl getting pregnant, it is not healthy nor is it safe. Two, why would you want to breed your dog anyhow. Do both dogs have papers? Do they have any awards or certificatons? Have they been TT'ed I mean com eon.. you are making more puppies while there are dogs of the same breed out ther ein shelters dying.. you are just adding to the over population and it may be your pups in that situation. You are not a very responsible person by breeding your dogs and I hate to be an ass about that all but the best thing to do is fixc both your dogs. THERE IS NO MONEY IN BREEDING!! If you think you are going to make any money from it you are wrong. Becaue, these dogs will need to be fed, they will need to see a vet and if you are half assed and don't take them then that is even worse.. But what happens if these dogs all get sick?? The money you make does not cover the difference, the cost you pay to have this litter with cleaning stuff and toys, food, bedding all that stuff in order to have healthy pups.. it about evens out.. trust me I bred labs for a few years. Anyhow. You are not contributing to anything fgood.. okay maybe you have nice dogs with great personalities but that doesn't mean a thing.. you need to know the genetic history of mother father grandparents great grandparents, get something to back it up.. do you even know the bloodlines of your dogs?? Anyhow.. I think that is enough of Lecture 101.. BUT.. you are better off to alter your dog(s) and save others from dying.. any responsible Pitbull ownere would agree to that. Also, if you are going to go through with it anyway.. DO NOT BREED ON FIRST HEAT>. the dog should have eyes, elbows, knees, hips, heart all checked and certified.. and should be AT LEAST TWO YEARS OLD!!
Angie

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