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nannywithbrowneyes
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posted 09-04-2003 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nannywithbrowneyes   Click Here to Email nannywithbrowneyes     Edit/Delete Message
I have a pitt puppy about 9 wks. old. She has been throwing-up today and not acting right. Has not ate anything today.I could really use some help with this. I'm taking her to the vet. tomorrow, but what can i do for her tonight?

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goob
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posted 09-04-2003 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
Could be a lot of things... just a few that come to mind are: a reaction to puppy shots; the switch of food from what she was eating a her breeder's home to what you feed; Parvovirus, a serious illness that's one of the main causes of deaths in puppies/young dogs. Get her to the vets ASAP, until then, make sure she gets plenty of water so she doesn't dehydrate, you may have to use a turkey baster or similar device to get it into her mouth if she won't drink on her own. You can also mix in a bit of Pedialyte or similar electrolyte(sp?) drink into the water. Also watch for signs of low blood sugar (Hypoglycemia), that could stem from her being so small and not having any food (that she digested) for a while. This usually happens more with toy breeds, but if you pup hasn't kept any food down for a while, could be something to worry about. Here's a page that describes symptoms, and ways to bring the sugar back up: http://www.yorkieluv.com/hypoglycemia.html

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vanillasofia
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posted 09-04-2003 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanillasofia   Click Here to Email vanillasofia     Edit/Delete Message
Get herto the vet asap is she can't keep fluids down, has bloody stools or vomit. As young as she is it sound as though it could be Parvo. Something I am used to seeing as a vet tech. That's why it's so important to finish ALL puppies on their vaccinations. Try some Pedialyte for her tonight, see if that helps any, or a small child's dose of Pepto may ease her belly. Good luck!

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the_maine_pitbull
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posted 09-05-2003 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the_maine_pitbull   Click Here to Email the_maine_pitbull     Edit/Delete Message
I recommend giving her about one cup of milk. You do not know, she could have gotten into something that is poisonous to her. It does happen sometimes so don't beat yourself. However, it is like Goob said.. parvovirus, foods, shots, some puppies/dogs have this reaction when they have worms that are quite severe. I had this problem with a four week old pup I cared for. He was dehydrated badly. Try giving him soft food with water mixed in with it, and about 3/4 to 1 cup of milk INCASE the puppy has gotten into something it will help coat the lining of the stomach and sooth the puppies throat as well as settle it a bit. Try it. And get that puppy in there ASAP... let us know what happens and what the doctor says..

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nannywithbrowneyes
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posted 09-07-2003 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nannywithbrowneyes   Click Here to Email nannywithbrowneyes     Edit/Delete Message
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR REPLYS TO MY SICK PITT. I TOOK HER TO THE VET,THE VERY NEXT MORNING AS SOON AS THEY WERE OPENED.SHE WAS VERY WEAK, BUT STILL MOVING AROUND SOME. THEY GAVE HER A FLUIDS THRU AN IV, AND 2 SHOTS 1 FOR UPSET STOMACH AND A STEROID SHOT. SHE SAID IT WAS THE PROVO VIRUS. I DID WHAT THE VET TOLD ME TO DO.I SAT UP WITH HER FOR 2 DAYS NIGHTS. BUT EVERYTHING THAT I DID FOR HER JUST DIDN'T HELP. TRINA, THAT WAS HER NAME, DIED SSTURDAY MORNING IN MY ARMS. THIS IS SO HARD FOR ME TO HANDLE AT THIS ONE. SHE WASA HAPPY GO LUCKY PUP. THIS HIT HER FAST. I WAS TO TAKE HER BACK SATURDAY MORNING FOR MORE FLUIDS, BUT SHE DIDN'T GET TO MAKE IT.THANKS, FOR EVERYONES RESPONDS, AND SORRY THAT IT TOOK ME THIS LONG TO TELL U ALL THIS.

NANNYWITHBROWNEYES

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rgyoung777
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posted 09-07-2003 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgyoung777     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, nanny, I am so sorry to hear of your loss! Poor pup!

Parvo is truly a devestating illness to deal with, and many puppies do not have the strength to fight it.

It is also highly contaigious, so if you decide to open your home to another dog in the futre, you will need to be extremely careful. You will want to bleach/disinfect all of the surfaces your puppy may have touched while she was with you.

Again, what a truly devestating experience. I am saddened by your loss.

Mainepitbull, you might want to rethink advocating giving milk (I am guessing you meant cow's milk) to puppies with upset stomachs. Puppies have trouble processing milk and it can give them diarrhea. Since nanny's pup was vomiting, dehydration would already have been a very serious risk. Adding milk could exacerbate the dehydration and actually worsen the pup's condition. If you weren't suggesting cow's milk, never mind!

Here is an informative page on parvovirus: http://www.petfinder.org/journalindex.cgi?path=private/shelte roperations/nutsandbolts/sheltermedicine/2.21.13.txt

Here are some that provide information on treating a puppy or a dog that has been poisoned (Milk is not advocated)
http://dogs.about.com/library/poisons/blvomit.htm

From a .pdf discussing puppy care:

quote:
l Young pups tend to bite and
swallow almost anything.
In case of poisoning, it is no
use giving your dog milk
or anything
else to drink, or putting
your fingers in its throat to
make it vomit (this will invariably
fail). You need to take it to
the vet straight away.

http://uk.merial.com/pdf/prevent_health/guidepup.pdf

[This message has been edited by rgyoung777 (edited 09-07-2003).]

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 09-07-2003 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs   Click Here to Email GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
WOW... So Sorry....

Yeah, like rgyoung777 mentioned, if your planning on getting another pup soon, look into what you have to, & can do to make sure your new pups enviroment (living quarters) are Parvo free.
The virus may still be in your area from contamination by Trina, and still can be highly contagious.

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the_maine_pitbull
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posted 09-08-2003 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the_maine_pitbull   Click Here to Email the_maine_pitbull     Edit/Delete Message
No I was talking of normal milk because it is watered down so they get water to help hydrate as well as milk to coat their bellies because of the vomitting and the possibility of having swallowed/drank somethign they shouldn't (ex: cleaners, toilet cleaners, etc) It helps sooth the belly so that all the acid in the belly does not damage the lining of the stomach. I never give my dogs cow milk.. I give them watered down milk (that I would drink myself) and in a few cases Infa-Milk to nurse sick pup of four weeks.. nothing other than. Anyhow.. I am SO SORRY about Trina.. she is now some place not suffering and keep in mind that she will be with you always. My thoughts and prayers are with you.. I know how hard it is, I just lost one to liver/kidney failure not long ago. If you need an ear and/or a paw to hold.. I am just an email away..

Angie Saige and Jekkyl

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rgyoung777
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posted 09-08-2003 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgyoung777     Edit/Delete Message
Mainepitbull, that is what I meant. The milk you buy at the store comes from a cow. It has less fat than whole cream milk, but it still has proteins which young puppies can have difficulty processing.
Milk is not a good thing to give to a puppy, because it can cause diarrhea which can worsen dehydration caused by vomiting. Pedialyte or Gatorade (diluted with water) would be better for hydrating (and replacing the electrolytes lost from vomiting) than milk.
And as I wrote earlier, if a pup ingests poison, milk won't help. The only thing to do in an instance like that would be a trip to the vet.
We all just need to be cautious when giving advice online. Your method may have worked well for you, but could have done some serious harm if nanny had tried it with her pup.

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goob
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posted 09-09-2003 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
I'm very sorry things turned out this way, and wish you the best of luck should you decide to get another pup (BTW, the advice given by others on new pups is very good).

On milk... in addition to what rgyoung mentioned, many dogs are lactose intolerant, which means milk, ice cream, etc will only serve to upset their stomaches. Some dogs, like my girl Goo, can merrily chug away at milk (she occasionally even gets a sip of those hershey milkshake things ), and eat cheese, etc with no problem... others will be sick after even a little tidbit. Not something you want to risk in a dog that's belly is already on end. It's said that if you do give your dog(s) milk, that goat milk is better (don't remember why though).

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the_maine_pitbull
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posted 09-09-2003 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the_maine_pitbull   Click Here to Email the_maine_pitbull     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you guys are right.. however, Saig ehad got into Mr. Clean floor cleaner and the vet said milk watered down. I didn't think it sounds right so I tried another vet as well as poison control.. they both said the same thing.. guess they were wrong..

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 09-10-2003 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs   Click Here to Email GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Hey MILK convo's,
I've also had a vet tell me that milk is actually good to use. But, as i remember now, the vet that actually told me that is kinda old-style (if you know what i mean). Not saying anything bad about people that support milks nourishing abbilities, but i personally would'nt use it in this type of situation. Especially with a sensitive stomach already, not being able to hold much down. Like GOOB mentioned, some can "hog-it-down" DAILY even, & some are very sensitive, almost allergic like to anything dairy.
It's kinda like an old saying & belief that milk does the body good in any situation, but i'd say, not this one... You know, "he/she does'nt want to eat", "try giving him milk", i honestly have to say i've heard that alot, even from my parents w/ my first dog.
A couple of new things that i've read up on is from hollistic care & treatment, that explain the good & bad things that come form feeding dairy foods.
I've also heard about that gatorade thing from a Physical Therapist.

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the_maine_pitbull
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posted 09-10-2003 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the_maine_pitbull   Click Here to Email the_maine_pitbull     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I really wouldn't use milk and it sounded messed up to me.. however, when Saige had drank that floor stuff.. she never threw up at all she was just very sick.. so it could have been to promote vomitting.. Never really got into it I was too worried about my baby!

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