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salute New Member  Posts: 1 |
posted 04-22-2003 11:34 PM
  
I adopted a 2 year old dobe, he was full grown and weighed in at 43 pounds. someone tried to starve him to death. the pound i got him from said alot of people asked about him but no one wanted him they said he looked "nasty" i thought he was beautiful! so after they checked me out i took him home! (after a visit to the vet)and several weeks of T.L.C. he weighed in at over 100 pounds he was a big guy! Shortley after he was healthy and sound i saw an article in the paper about a 2 year old pitt that lived in a trunk of a car most of the time for almost a year and now was taken from that environment to a quick stay at the local pound i wanted to save that life too! and i did! the three of us lived happily together for a couple of years my dobe the pitt and me! one day i was reading the paper and i saw an article pitts $150 dollars i thought with my big house and my big backyard we can take on one more dog. so i brought home a 9 week old pitt. the dobe took to the new addition right away! it was great! but something strange happened! my new pitt lived here with us for almost 2 years and out of nowhere i came home from the grocery store and i found my first love (the dobe) slaughtered on my bedroom floor! the 2 pitts killed him! my dobe put up a hell of a fight but in the end how could he win? VS. 2 of them? So pittbull princess i have owned pitts and they took my dobe from me and i put the 2 pitts to sleep for what they did! i will bet you a million dollars if i adopted 2 labs i would still be sitting here with all 3 of them! IP: Logged |
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Schutznut Member  Posts: 32 |
posted 04-23-2003 01:20 AM
I am saddened by this story. Tell me please, what were the sexes of the PBs? I am just curious. IP: Logged |
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Doc Helladay unregistered |
posted 04-23-2003 06:11 AM
Sorry Salute for your loss, there are no words to describe this trajedy. Dobes are great I had them for many years..I left you a site for you to check out..I dont know when this happened to you but I am sure there is a dog just waiting for a good person like yourself.. (dont make him wait to long  Good luck. If that site doesnt work for you let me knowDoc~2003 Http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Dogs/Breeds/Working_Group/Doberman_Pinscher/Rescues_andShelters/ IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 04-23-2003 10:34 AM
I am sorry for you loss.It was your fault that your dog died.You should never leave your dogs alone.It sounds like you do not know very much about the breed.If you did you would have known better.You are the one at fault not the pits...How dare you put them down for being dogs.People like you cause problems for this breed.Maybe you need to be educated on a breed you think you want to try to save.You not knowing cost 3 dogs their lives. IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 04-23-2003 01:15 PM
I am terribly saddened by this storY  Unfortunatley Dog fighting is part of the genetic make up of a pit bull...if you had of done a teeny bit of research on the breed before trying to help, then you would have known to NEVER leave a Pit Bull with another dog un atteneded EVER. This is common knowledge between Pit Bull owners. Your heart was in the right place; however, you were lacking the information to make it all work. It is unfortunate what man did to these animals...it was man that made them dog fighters....we can't blame the dogs..only ourselves. I aggree with princess in the aspect that there is no one to blame other than yourself. Your Dob would still be alive if you had of known to crate or lock your Pit in another room while you were out. Can't blame the dogs for an genetic make-up MAN created. God bless you and your heart for trying to help. I wish you luck with your next rescue. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 186 |
posted 04-23-2003 01:40 PM
Sorry, but if you had done the least bit of research on EITHER breed before deciding to have multiple dogs, you would have found out that it's not safe to leave either breed alone with other dogs when unattended. I realize that you were trying to help, but because you didn't take the time to research the breeds you wanted to own/owned, you ended up loosing them all. Sorry you had to go through all that IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 04-23-2003 02:21 PM
I like how I was singaled out in the origanly post....Cool!atleast I know people are reading what I write... IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-23-2003 06:10 PM
For the past 9 months we have been grieving everyday, wondering if it has been our fault. Looking at there canisters full of each of their ashes that sits on our fireplace wondering why? They all lived so happy. Got along so good! We left them uncrated everyday for two years. We never felt the need. The sexes of the pits were one male one female. Putting them to sleep was hard, but finding my dobe in a puddle of blood on our bedroom floor, and my whole house coverd in blood from the pits walking around, I could not look at them and know what they did. Losing them all the way we did was the most devastating thing we have ever been through. Sometimes now, just sitting here we cry, missing them so much. Please have a heart, and so not post nasty messages about how this is our fault. Losing them all on the same day was like losing a child. And thats what they were, our children. In memory of Salute, our dobe who died, we got a wonderful little dobe who is now 8 months old, his name is Soldier, named after Salute. Yes that is my screen name. Im the one asking all the questions about my dobe. And my fiance posted on this website with the screen name salute. He wanted to share our story. I am truly saddend that people who dont even know us, and all of the pain we went through, and still do every waking moment, could come on here and say it was our fault. Have a heart my god. We are wonderful dog owners, and they were all our baby's just like Soldier is now. Mabey we did not know all we need to know about the breed. But like I said before, they were all three best friends, and to this day will never understand what happend. So please, dont come on here with angry faces posted by your screen name. You have no right. IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 04-23-2003 06:25 PM
I am truly saddened by your story and can't even comprehend your saddness. Unfortunatley, part of the problem was that you had two of the same sexes...your said you had one male and female pit...what was the dob? Which two dogs got into it? If those questions bother you and hurt to talk about, I understand. I stand firmly behind the lack of knowledge on the owners part that creates these problems. I am sorry if this seems harsh to you, but that is the answer..I'm sorry, sometimes the truth really hurts. Rules about a pit bull This is common knowledge among pit owners.. ask any of them ....even if the dogs truly loved eachother...you never know what will cause a tantrum...a toy...food...whatever and a Pit BUll never backs down...such as the result of your poor Dobe. Congratulations on your new baby. Best of luck with your new adventure! IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-23-2003 07:06 PM
The dobe was a male, and the two pits one female one male. When we took salute to the vet, he was barely alive, but we of course had to do whatever we could. She said he was attacted from the front and back. She said it was not the work of one dog. We are assuming the males got into it and the female was wondering what the hell was going on and got in the middle of it. The vet said when dogs taste blood, the cant help themselves. When I first walked in the door both the pits came to the door and had the look of, im so sorry, what the hell did i just do. I will never forget it. Nor will i ever forget finding salute. I have no problem talking about it, in a way it helps, but I do have a problem with an earlier post that said "it was your fault that your dog died". and saying if we would of done research your dogs would still be here. for all of those people, i just hope you never, ever have to go through what we did, ever. IP: Logged |
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pete unregistered |
posted 04-23-2003 08:07 PM
I think it sucks your dog died, but read up on pits. They are territorial when it comes to other dogs. Animal instinct. They kill each other sometimes too. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 186 |
posted 04-23-2003 11:44 PM
Looking at my last post, it really did seem kinda rude and indifferent. Id din't mean for it to sound that way, and I AM sorry about what you and your dogs had to go through. I just wish people would take time to learn what they're getting into before they do it. The situation you had happen has happened before to other multi-dog/pit bull owners... they got along fine for years, then one day the pit bulls "turned on" (meaning they started showing dog aggression), or the dogs got into a scrap over something silly, and the pit bulls, true to their nature, carried out the fight to the end. The owners either were home, and hopefully managed to get the dogs seperated in time, or weren't, and serious (or fatal) injuries were inflicted by the time they got home. You aren't alone in what has happened to your pups, and I hope you understand why it's so frustrating for pit bull owners to hear about pit bulls left unattended with other dogs. It's also true that when a group of dogs are together, and a fight gets started between some of them, the others will often join in... not necessarily anything to do with the blood, just they sense the overall tension and seeing the other animal in a position of vulnerabilty triggers an instinct in them. Again, sorry for being so inconsiderate in my earlier post. IP: Logged |
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Doc Helladay unregistered |
posted 04-24-2003 01:04 AM
I am really happy to hear you did get another dobe, I feel bad for you the way the others responded to you, and made such judgemental comments. Its not your fault what happened with your pets, it sounds like you were very caring (loving) pet owners. Who would think after 2 yrs this kinda thing would happen...things happen beyond our control that we can't forsee. I lost my dog last July (he was only 5) and still to this day I miss him...I have so many videos of him and my grand-daughter for now I have put them away till I have the strength to watch them. I wish the best for all of you Doc~2003 IP: Logged |
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MySweetDaisy unregistered |
posted 04-24-2003 01:40 AM
Hello, I just want to say that I am sorry for the loss of your pets but, I am going to have to agree with most of the other people in here and say that with APBT you can not, and I repete, can not trust them with other dogs on any level. It does not matter if they have known eachother for a day or 10 years.....it is in there nature. I own pits and i have grown up with pits my whole life. Unfortunatly, when I was 5 years old, my fathers pit "carmen", whom I had grown up with since I was 2 years old, saw me on my swing one day and thought I was playing with her and she attacked my leg, I had to have 107 sticthes and my fathers sweet carmen was put to sleep. I now own 5 pits and I love them very dearly and I also have a 4 year old don whom I also love very dearly and needless to say, I do not trust my pits alone together or alone with my son. Please don't get me wrong, my pits are very loving dogs and very sweet companions and I do not fear my dogs but, unfortunatly, this breed was made for fighting and the saying about pits is "You can keep the dog out of the fight but you can't keep the fight out of the dog". My suggestion to you or anyone interested in owning a pit is please please educate yourself and your family about this breed because it is not for everyone. It takes a very strong willed person to own and love a pit for what they really are. thank you for your time. IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 04-24-2003 09:21 AM
I am sorry if my post seemed harsh,but everything I said is true.It was your fault.I am not trying to be mean.I am gratful that you tried to save 3 dogs,but not knowing enough about the breed cost all 3 dogs their lives.All I can say is it was a hard lesson in life,and try not to make the same mistake again.We all make mistake,it happens.All I ask is do not let this one mistake make you give up on Pit Bulls.I wish you all the luck with what ever breed you decide to get.In time you heart will heel. IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-26-2003 08:06 PM
Are you kidding me? You come on an APBT message board and post a story about your APBTs killing your dobie due to your lack of education and responsibility and you expect APBT owner's to baby you? You said these dogs were like your kids, what if you had a kid and he beat the hell out of another kid would you kill him too? Did you even purchase ONE book on this breed? Did you know even ONE responsible APBT owner? Did you read any type of info. on the internet? I bet the answer to all the questions is, NO. These kind of stories absolutely sicken me. 2 wonderful APBTs were killed because of your lack of responsibility. Also, YES it is entirely your fault that all 3 of your "beloved" pets are dead. If you had read one article or read one book on this breed then you would have known that this breed is genetically ANIMAL AGGRESSIVE. You can NOT train this out of them. It is NOT in how you raise them. Multiple APBT households can live in harmony if they are properly supervised and seperated. Whenever you are gone you should ALWAYS crate your dogs so something like this does NOT happen. Hopefully, since your accident you have read up on dog breeds and tried and educated yourself. I hope you realize that your "accident" could have been easily avoided and your 3 "beloved" pets would all still be alive and happy if you even bothered to pick up a book and read. IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-26-2003 10:58 PM
So if I would of read a "book" my dogs would be alive? Thanks for your advice. I never knew a "book" could keep dogs alive. Two years with no problems, we trusted them. Is that wrong? You who say apbt are the best dogs dont seem to think so. I just loved my babies, and dont give a damn what you think. IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:04 PM
Also , the whole beating up thing. If someone beats up someone, they would be in big trouble. But if a person "kills" another human, they are put to death. So what is your point? And I dont want people to baby me. I just wanted to share my story. IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:07 PM
Actually yes a book could have saved your dogs lives. If you had read ONE book on the APBT then you would know that these dogs ARE genetically ANIMAL AGGRESSIVE. It even tells you that you should not even leave them alone unsupervised. You shouldn't even leave ANY breed of dog unsupervised. If you had researched this breed then you would have known to NOT leave them alone together. The APBT is an animal aggressive breed. Do you know what that means? This breed has been bred for many generations to NOT tolerate other dogs or animals. This would tell you to NOT leave them alone unsupervised. So yes if you read a book on this breed then your dogs would still be alive. It is because of your lack of education that your dogs are dead and it's the truth. You say you loved your babies. If you loved them so much then why didn't you do ANY type of research on them? Why didn't you try and figure out WHY they attacked your dobie? Yeah, some love, but you obviously moved and already picked up another dog, poor thing. IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:12 PM
"Also , the whole beating up thing. If someone beats up someone, they would be in big trouble. But if a person "kills" another human, they are put to death." Well that obviously flew over your head. Say your son or daughter killed someone. Would you say kill them? More then likely you would not. You would want to find out why, You would want to get them help. So why didn't you do this with your dogs? If you loved them so much then how could you just dispose of them? Also, not all the people who kill people are put to death. IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:16 PM
"And I dont want people to baby me. I just wanted to share my story."
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:29 PM
I never came on this site to say I hated the breed. Never once did I say that. I just said I loved my dogs so much, and one day they turned on me and their best friend. If you had three dogs, and 2 of them killed 1 of them, could you look them in the face again? Could you love them the same? Knowing what they did? IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:37 PM
"I never came on this site to say I hated the breed."
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:52 PM
Thanks, you have been helpfull. Im sure my dog now is in so much pain and does not what to be owned by us. I hope you go to sleep tonight and know you were a bi*ch to someone you dont even know. I told everyone on this site about my story, not wanting this. But, I lost. Do you feel better know? Goodnight! IP: Logged |
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posted 04-26-2003 11:57 PM
I am just curious about this breed, so my question would be does these pit dogs have to be crated and kept solely alone? another question i have is with this breed why do they have to be supervised all the time? and if so what point can they be left alone you have to watch them 24/7? I don't understand and please dont get mad but why have a dog of any breed you cant leave alone? IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-26-2003 11:59 PM
So, what did you expect? You said that a "pitt" ruined your life. If you didn't know there is only ONE "t" in the word pit bull. I just hope this time you are more responsible and educated and dont make the same careless mistakes. Dogs are dogs, they aren't little people. You said you came on here to share your story and not wanting this. Well I'm sure your "beloved" APBTs didn't want to be destroyed because of your irresponsibility either. IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-27-2003 12:10 AM
From what I have learned you have to keep a APBT crated for most of its life. IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-27-2003 12:11 AM
"I am just curious about this breed, so my question would be does these pit dogs have to be crated and kept solely alone? another question i have is with this breed why do they have to be supervised all the time? and if so what point can they be left alone you have to watch them 24/7? I don't understand and please dont get mad but why have a dog of any breed you cant leave alone?"
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posted 04-27-2003 12:40 AM
freedom so in other words it is best only to own only 1 of this breed. I was just curious after reading other parts in different topics here. Some say they own more than one so do they have to keep them crated like all day long while they work? But thank you for your information on the above post. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 186 |
posted 04-27-2003 02:04 AM
We have 5 dogs here most of the time... two pit bulls, and three smaller dogs of varying breeds. The older pit bull is dog aggressive outside of the house, but is pretty tolerant when inside, the younger pit bull is not able to be around the other dogs (though she has been introduced to the older pit bull for brief periods of time while supervised, without much trouble from either). The older pit bull is not crated, and stays in my room by choice for a good part of the day (the rest, she's following me around the house or yard), and there's a babygate bolted to my doorway so the other dogs can't harass her, but she can still go in and out by jumping over. The smaller dogs all have crates in the dining room, but rarely used them before the second pit bull came here. The younger pit bull has a crate in the office room. We do "shifts" with the dogs... while the 4 original dogs (older pit bull and three smaller dogs) are out, the younger pit bull is usually loose in the office (my mom is often doing work back there, and just keeps Haley in there with the door shut), then we put the other dogs away (3 in crates and 1 in my room) and let her out. Over the last week, we've also started leaving one "set" of dogs in the living room while the other(s) is/are loose in the rest of the house (only the older pit bull can get over the babygates we use, and she won't jump if told not to) so that they can all be somewhat "free" even if only one person is home. At night, the older pit bull sleeps in my room, the other dogs either have "free house", or sleep with a family member, and the younger pit bull is crated in the office room (she could be loose in there, but she's destructive when left alone for more than about 15 mins at a time). When no one is at home, the younger pit bull is either crated, or loose in the office, and the older one goes in my room and stays until someone comes home and calls her out (she's done this for the last 8 years, so it's a pretty safe bet that she'll continue to do so, yet we're still taking a bit of a risk). My mom works at a vets office, so she normally just takes the younger pit bull to work with her, and I get home only two hrs after she leaves, sometimes less. So, yes, the dogs are seperated when no one's home, but they seem to have absolutely no problems with their lifestyle. Each gets the amount of exercise they need, even if it means missing a few hrs of sleep to get up and take them running because I have something to do later that day, and they all get "their time", in which they'll be able to hang around their people without being bothered by the other dogs. Sooo, I guess that was more than enough information, but I just wanted to point out that it is possible to own pit bulls in multi dog households without sacrificing quality of life for the dogs. IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-27-2003 09:26 AM
"freedom so in other words it is best only to own only 1 of this breed."
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MySweetDaisy unregistered |
posted 04-27-2003 11:41 PM
I raise and breed pits and as of right now I have 6 adults and 7 pups and 8 more pups on the way if all goes well. What I wanted to say is I suggest that your pit be crated when no one is home if you own 1 or 10. This is due to the fact that pits love to play and if no one is there to play with them they love to chew. I keep all of my pits (except the pups) crated when I am not home but they are not seperated from eachother in different rooms. One thing that pit owners need to know is that pits need to be socialized at a very young age and you can't stop socializing them. This is one of the most important things. This is not going to train them to like other animals because that can not be done but it will teach them to tolerate other animals that are in their presence to a certian extent. Crating is not punishment and it should not be shown to your pit as punishment because they will resent you for that. Crating should only be used when no one is home and your pits are alone. It is not fair to the dog to crate him or her while the other dogs get to roam free whike your home. I am only adding this for someone who said the you are mistreating your dog if you crate it. It is not mistreating your dog, it is being a responsible pit owner. IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-27-2003 11:57 PM
Watch them like a hawk? why do you have to do that? They are time bombs! Always having the eye in the back of your head on your apbt because he might wanna fight or kill something what fun is that? IP: Logged |
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posted 04-28-2003 12:36 AM
no soldier, I think you miss understood. You do not have to watch them every second of the day, especially if you understand the breed which you have proven you don't. Do you have childern? Do you watch your children everyday to make sure that their alright? Having a pit is a lot like having a child.
"You made me what I am today, courage at its best. IP: Logged |
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mysweetdaisy unregistered |
posted 04-28-2003 12:45 AM
And by the way soldier, people do not get pets for fun, if you want fun, buy yourself a video game......but be sure to read the instructions first so you understand how to take care of it.........lol IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-28-2003 04:44 PM
"And by the way soldier, people do not get pets for fun, if you want fun, buy yourself a video game......but be sure to read the instructions first so you understand how to take care of it.........lol" LOL.... Soldier is obviously an ignorant person since they refuse to learn anything. IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 04-29-2003 12:07 AM
To the people that have no feelings!(Freedom, Daisy) I loved all the dogs the same. All I wanted to do was give them the life all dogs would want. Nothing but love for them! I posted this message thinking I would get a little compassion, Not ridicule. [This message has been edited by soldier (edited 04-29-2003).] [This message has been edited by Auspetian (edited 04-29-2003).] IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 04-29-2003 09:42 AM
You will not get any compassion from some one that real loves pit bulls. IP: Logged |
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Freedom Member Posts: 36 |
posted 04-29-2003 10:24 AM
"To the people that have no feelings!(Freedom, Daisy) I loved all the dogs the same. All I wanted to do was give them the life all dogs would want. Nothing but love for them! I posted this message thinking I would get a little compassion, Not ridicule." Compassion?? You put down 2 dogs for doing what they were made to do. It is in their blood. Like I have said MANY times if you had done any kind of research you would have known that! If you loved your dogs so much and you wanted to give them the good life then why did you kill them? Those APBTs were NOT bad dogs and did NOT deserve to die because of your lack of education and your ignornace. You are totally missing the point and I don't even know why you keep posting back. You have no intelligble argument to make. You were in the wrong and you should feel horrible. You will get no compassion from me. I don't understand why people get this breed and don't do any research. Let alone get a dog of ANY breed and not do research. IP: Logged |
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soldier Member Posts: 18 |
posted 05-01-2003 12:36 AM
To everyone that has been kind(fluff,danelover,rgyoung777) Thank you very much!Here is the deal how could I look the pits in the eye: the male had no ears left and 1 eye left not to mention all the scars all over his face he would have had! The female had terrible facial wounds and a leg broken so bad it would have had to be amputated! how could I sit around the house and give love to the dogs left? I lost my doberman : I didnt know enough: dehydration: and he went into shock! The vet said the shock killed him! He had no serious wounds! So to hell with you cold hearted people who think I did a bad thing by putting my pits to sleep! IP: Logged |
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