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posted 04-26-2003 08:06 PM            

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Are you kidding me? You come on an APBT message board and post a story about your APBTs killing your dobie due to your lack of education and responsibility and you expect APBT owner's to baby you? You said these dogs were like your kids, what if you had a kid and he beat the hell out of another kid would you kill him too? Did you even purchase ONE book on this breed? Did you know even ONE responsible APBT owner? Did you read any type of info. on the internet? I bet the answer to all the questions is, NO. These kind of stories absolutely sicken me. 2 wonderful APBTs were killed because of your lack of responsibility. Also, YES it is entirely your fault that all 3 of your "beloved" pets are dead. If you had read one article or read one book on this breed then you would have known that this breed is genetically ANIMAL AGGRESSIVE. You can NOT train this out of them. It is NOT in how you raise them. Multiple APBT households can live in harmony if they are properly supervised and seperated. Whenever you are gone you should ALWAYS crate your dogs so something like this does NOT happen. Hopefully, since your accident you have read up on dog breeds and tried and educated yourself. I hope you realize that your "accident" could have been easily avoided and your 3 "beloved" pets would all still be alive and happy if you even bothered to pick up a book and read.

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posted 04-26-2003 10:58 PM         

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So if I would of read a "book" my dogs would be alive? Thanks for your advice. I never knew a "book" could keep dogs alive. Two years with no problems, we trusted them. Is that wrong? You who say apbt are the best dogs dont seem to think so. I just loved my babies, and dont give a damn what you think.

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posted 04-26-2003 11:04 PM         

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Also , the whole beating up thing. If someone beats up someone, they would be in big trouble. But if a person "kills" another human, they are put to death. So what is your point? And I dont want people to baby me. I just wanted to share my story.

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posted 04-26-2003 11:07 PM            

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Actually yes a book could have saved your dogs lives. If you had read ONE book on the APBT then you would know that these dogs ARE genetically ANIMAL AGGRESSIVE. It even tells you that you should not even leave them alone unsupervised. You shouldn't even leave ANY breed of dog unsupervised. If you had researched this breed then you would have known to NOT leave them alone together. The APBT is an animal aggressive breed. Do you know what that means? This breed has been bred for many generations to NOT tolerate other dogs or animals. This would tell you to NOT leave them alone unsupervised. So yes if you read a book on this breed then your dogs would still be alive. It is because of your lack of education that your dogs are dead and it's the truth. You say you loved your babies. If you loved them so much then why didn't you do ANY type of research on them? Why didn't you try and figure out WHY they attacked your dobie? Yeah, some love, but you obviously moved and already picked up another dog, poor thing.

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posted 04-26-2003 11:12 PM            

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"Also , the whole beating up thing. If someone beats up someone, they would be in big trouble. But if a person "kills" another human, they are put to death."

Well that obviously flew over your head. Say your son or daughter killed someone. Would you say kill them? More then likely you would not. You would want to find out why, You would want to get them help. So why didn't you do this with your dogs? If you loved them so much then how could you just dispose of them? Also, not all the people who kill people are put to death.

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posted 04-26-2003 11:16 PM            

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"And I dont want people to baby me. I just wanted to share my story."

Riiiight, so you come on an APBT board to post about how you hate this breed? What did you expect?

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posted 04-26-2003 11:29 PM         

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I never came on this site to say I hated the breed. Never once did I say that. I just said I loved my dogs so much, and one day they turned on me and their best friend. If you had three dogs, and 2 of them killed 1 of them, could you look them in the face again? Could you love them the same? Knowing what they did?

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posted 04-26-2003 11:37 PM            

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"I never came on this site to say I hated the breed."

Really?? Well the title of this thread kinda says different.

"I just said I loved my dogs so much, and one day they turned on me and their best friend. If you had three dogs, and 2 of them killed 1 of them, could you look them in the face again?"

They turned on you? How, for being dogs and acting how they were supposed to behave? As I have repeated time and time again if you had done just a little bit of research your dogs would still be alive. First off, I know that APBTs ARE animal aggressive and I would NEVER leave them alone unsupervised. That is just asking for trouble. Even if they had never shown any kind of aggression it takes just one dominant posture, one misinterpreted growl, jealousy over food OR a toy to start a dog fight. If you knew anything about APBTs then you would know that these dogs are pound for pound the most powerful breed. When these dogs get into a fight they cause severe damage EVEN death. It is our responsibility as their owners to make sure that they are never left alone and are always supervised. I know this breed and I know that they are animal aggressive, and what they are capable of. You have NO point to argue, this was entirely your fault.

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posted 04-26-2003 11:52 PM         

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Thanks, you have been helpfull. Im sure my dog now is in so much pain and does not what to be owned by us. I hope you go to sleep tonight and know you were a bi*ch to someone you dont even know. I told everyone on this site about my story, not wanting this. But, I lost. Do you feel better know? Goodnight!

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posted 04-26-2003 11:57 PM           

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I am just curious about this breed, so my question would be does these pit dogs have to be crated and kept solely alone? another question i have is with this breed why do they have to be supervised all the time? and if so what point can they be left alone you have to watch them 24/7? I don't understand and please dont get mad but why have a dog of any breed you cant leave alone?

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posted 04-26-2003 11:59 PM            

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So, what did you expect? You said that a "pitt" ruined your life. If you didn't know there is only ONE "t" in the word pit bull. I just hope this time you are more responsible and educated and dont make the same careless mistakes. Dogs are dogs, they aren't little people. You said you came on here to share your story and not wanting this. Well I'm sure your "beloved" APBTs didn't want to be destroyed because of your irresponsibility either.

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posted 04-27-2003 12:10 AM         

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From what I have learned you have to keep a APBT crated for most of its life.

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posted 04-27-2003 12:11 AM            

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"I am just curious about this breed, so my question would be does these pit dogs have to be crated and kept solely alone? another question i have is with this breed why do they have to be supervised all the time? and if so what point can they be left alone you have to watch them 24/7? I don't understand and please dont get mad but why have a dog of any breed you cant leave alone?"

APBTs have been bred over many many years to be animal aggressive. They really are not pack animals and do not tolerate other animals that well. APBTs should be supervised at all times because the majority of them are animal aggressive. They are a very powerful breed and they may not start it but more then likely they will finish it. They need to be supervised because they really cannot be trusted alone around other dogs or animals. APBTs can be raised to tolerate other animals in their household but just because they tolerate them when the owners are around does NOT mean they will act the same when you are not there to watch them. This breed is an animal aggressive breed and people need to realize that this is something you can NOT train or raise out of them. Animal aggression may turn off some people but the pros outweigh this by far. Besides, the APBT is more then happy to please and play with its owner instead of romping in some dirty dog park where their could be a potentionally fatal dog fight.

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posted 04-27-2003 12:40 AM           

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freedom so in other words it is best only to own only 1 of this breed. I was just curious after reading other parts in different topics here. Some say they own more than one so do they have to keep them crated like all day long while they work? But thank you for your information on the above post.

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posted 04-27-2003 02:04 AM         

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We have 5 dogs here most of the time... two pit bulls, and three smaller dogs of varying breeds. The older pit bull is dog aggressive outside of the house, but is pretty tolerant when inside, the younger pit bull is not able to be around the other dogs (though she has been introduced to the older pit bull for brief periods of time while supervised, without much trouble from either). The older pit bull is not crated, and stays in my room by choice for a good part of the day (the rest, she's following me around the house or yard), and there's a babygate bolted to my doorway so the other dogs can't harass her, but she can still go in and out by jumping over. The smaller dogs all have crates in the dining room, but rarely used them before the second pit bull came here. The younger pit bull has a crate in the office room. We do "shifts" with the dogs... while the 4 original dogs (older pit bull and three smaller dogs) are out, the younger pit bull is usually loose in the office (my mom is often doing work back there, and just keeps Haley in there with the door shut), then we put the other dogs away (3 in crates and 1 in my room) and let her out. Over the last week, we've also started leaving one "set" of dogs in the living room while the other(s) is/are loose in the rest of the house (only the older pit bull can get over the babygates we use, and she won't jump if told not to) so that they can all be somewhat "free" even if only one person is home. At night, the older pit bull sleeps in my room, the other dogs either have "free house", or sleep with a family member, and the younger pit bull is crated in the office room (she could be loose in there, but she's destructive when left alone for more than about 15 mins at a time). When no one is at home, the younger pit bull is either crated, or loose in the office, and the older one goes in my room and stays until someone comes home and calls her out (she's done this for the last 8 years, so it's a pretty safe bet that she'll continue to do so, yet we're still taking a bit of a risk). My mom works at a vets office, so she normally just takes the younger pit bull to work with her, and I get home only two hrs after she leaves, sometimes less. So, yes, the dogs are seperated when no one's home, but they seem to have absolutely no problems with their lifestyle. Each gets the amount of exercise they need, even if it means missing a few hrs of sleep to get up and take them running because I have something to do later that day, and they all get "their time", in which they'll be able to hang around their people without being bothered by the other dogs. Sooo, I guess that was more than enough information, but I just wanted to point out that it is possible to own pit bulls in multi dog households without sacrificing quality of life for the dogs.

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