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From:Thomasville, Georgia, USA
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posted 11-28-2003 08:29 PM         

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Let me tell you something. What right do you have to tell me that I don't have enough responsibility to take care of my own dog? You don't even know me. How dare you. I AM HERE to learn more about what I can do for my baby. I love her with all of my heart. Let me get something else straight....I do not beat me dog. What I do, is gently spank her and BELIEVE it or not, she does know what what NO means. I think YOU need to go somewhere else and criticize someone else. I think you extremely opiniionated and had NO RIGHT to tell me that I am no responsible enough. I sure could tell you a thing or two.

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posted 11-28-2003 09:28 PM         

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Not to be snotty or rude, so please dont take this the wrong way. I would just like to understand the situation more.
If your dog knows the meaning of the word no, than why do you hit the beagle?
Is it because No isnt effective enough?

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posted 11-28-2003 09:41 PM         

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With all respect to those who clicker and treat train your dogs, sometimes a good swat with a newspaper just works. I do not beat my dogs (a dalmation and a min pin), in fact i love them to pieces and they sleep in the same bed under the covers with me :-).
That is in fact how i tranined my dogs and they are the most obedient around children and company and i dont even need to use more than the word "no" or "go to the kennel" to control them. Just because some people decide to use diffrent meathods does not mean they are dog abusers.
So Lauren, do not let this people intimidate you. To try to keep you puppy from being frightened why dont you make the extra effort to show her praise when she does even the slightest bit good, or hold with her muzzle at you face and look her in the eye and say "no!"
And all you little animal activist who get so worked up over stuff like this should be more concerned about more serious things...but if you are so desperate to throw flames at someone go ahead and throw them my way, I could always use a good laugh.

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posted 11-28-2003 09:59 PM         

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Let us all please give Lauren the benefit of the doubt here. She said she spanked her dog, not beat or hit her. She is now coming back here for advice. She said in another post she is trying to learn better methods besides spanking. We all amke mistakes. Let's give the benefit of the doubt and help her like we do everyone else.

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posted 11-28-2003 10:28 PM         

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I agree with Stefanie8808 it dont hurt to swat the dog every now and then if you cant get through to it no other way and NIK you can call me a dog beater if you because I wont hesitate to say that you are the only one here that is not very responsible and I know this because it takes a half way decent person to answer a question without blowing up and assuming that you are some sort of dog goddess. Gimme a break if not then give Lauren a break she may be new to the dog world and people like is what makes these boards a waste of energy some times.

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posted 11-28-2003 10:29 PM         

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I believe my original post to Lauren was basically an offer of help if she wanted it. I offered advice and was respectful. Stephanie...spanking or striking a 8 week old puppy is not OK...there is nothing to gain by doing it. They don't understand. I have swatted my dog on the hiney here and there to get his attention, but he is not an 8 week old puppy. Just as with a child there are age appropriate methods of teaching ..so is there with puppies.
I think it is irresponsible to get a dog without having done your homework FIRST, that means having a plan for training, you may have to adjust it as you go along, but having the basics down should be a given. That was not done and it is obvious, I and others offered advice, but if you are going to come into a forum and make statements or ask questions about something like spanking an 8 week old puppy....you should at the very leaste expect to get some people angry thats just common sense. If it hurt your feelings...well live and learn. I'm sure your puppy has some hurt feelings as well.

Your statement:
"I think you extremely opiniionated and had NO RIGHT to tell me that I am no responsible enough. I sure could tell you a thing or two."
Although it wasn't directed at me...the fact is you came to an open forum...she does have the right to post her opinion just as you did. You opened yourself up to critisism with your own post, and I would guess the reason that happened is because you did not do your homework before getting a puppy. Given the original question you asked in your post I would like to know what "the thing or two " is that you could tell Nik or the rest of the people on the board who got upset over your post?

My offer still stands for advice, and I would love for you to come back to the board often and learn what you can and offer your own contributions.

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posted 11-28-2003 10:49 PM         

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GROW UP PEOPLE DOGS AND KIDS ARE NOTHING ALIKE

I have 2 of each of them and it is 2 totally differant worlds.

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posted 11-28-2003 10:59 PM         

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Again I disagree. I also have two children.

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posted 11-28-2003 11:52 PM         

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Why single out Nik? MANY of the posts were harsh, I just re-read the several threads that are posted...Nik was not the only person who had a strong opinion and expressed it.

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posted 11-29-2003 03:00 AM         

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"Let me tell you something. What right do you have to tell me that I don't have enough responsibility to take care of my own dog?"
It could be argued alot of us here aren't to responsible at times as we all have questions and hic-ups, the fact you took offense to this makes me think I hit a nerve.
"You don't even know me. How dare you. I AM HERE to learn more about what I can do for my baby. I love her with all of my heart. Let me get something else straight....I do not beat me dog."
I never suggested you did beat your dog. Spanking an eight week old puppy just isn't on, even when you're at the end of a rough day and she won't sit when you ask her to. Walk away, crate herm, put her on her leash. Spank her and all she'll learn is to retreat... until the day (god forbid) she decides enough's enough and spanks back.
"What I do, is gently spank her and BELIEVE it or not, she does know what what NO means."
As others have said, if she knows what it means why does she need to be corrected with a spank?
"I think YOU need to go somewhere else and criticize someone else. I think you extremely opiniionated and had NO RIGHT to tell me that I am no responsible enough. I sure could tell you a thing or two."
So tell me.
I only critisized when I saw another post where you were asking for help with something. I chose not to post on your orriginal 'spanking' post as I was hoping you were young and niave, so was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt, as much as it upset me to see what you were doing.

Good luck.

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posted 11-29-2003 03:05 AM         

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I agree with Stefanie8808 it dont hurt to swat the dog every now and then if you cant get through to it no other way and NIK you can call me a dog beater if you because I wont hesitate to say that you are the only one here that is not very responsible and I know this because it takes a half way decent person to answer a question without blowing up and assuming that you are some sort of dog goddess. Gimme a break if not then give Lauren a break she may be new to the dog world and people like is what makes these boards a waste of energy some times.
Sincerly
The dog beater (SAMSON)

I have no idea why you singled me out with this. Perhaps if you'd read my reply to Lauren in the original post you'd know I didn't call anyone a dog beater... you've done that yourself.

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posted 11-29-2003 04:55 AM         

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Maisey

Either you dont have dogs OR you dont have kids. If you do have both of them I feel sorry for the kids because dogs are nothing like and I would never compare one of my kids to a friggin dog. JESUS CHRIST ITS A DOG NOT A KID!!!!!!!!!!!

Nik

You never once heard me say that you called anyone a dog beater It was just a figure of speaking.

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posted 11-29-2003 05:01 AM         

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This topic is getting out of hand.

Ok, guys. Time out.....I’m closing the thread.

Please note that this forum is for dog care, & health related discussions only. Personal issues should be taken to the general board (if at all).

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