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KelpieDad
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posted 11-24-2003 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KelpieDad     Edit/Delete Message
I'm at my wits end, I hope someone can help.

I have a 2.5 yr old Australian Kelpie. She is an extremely well behaved dog when I'm with her. She has been through obedience as a pup and knows many commands and tricks, and also knows what she should and shouldn't chew up.

For approx a year she was very well behaved while I was at work, but for the past 2 months she has reverted back to her chewing the carpet, and paper.

As a pup she used to have severe seperation anxiety which I, and my vet believed to be her motivation for chewing. Once the seperation anxiety passed, she once again began to chew. I figured it was boredom, so I take her to a doggie day-care once a week so she can run and play. That helped for a long time.

Now once again she is chewing and I don't know what else to try with her. I take her to the park to run everyday, as her breed needs lots of excersize and attention. When she is home alone, she has several toys and bones to chew on, and I cycle them often so she won't be bored with the same toys and treats.

I'd hate to get the crate out of storage and force her to sit in it all day while I'm at work again but I'm out of options at this point.

I'm hoping for any suggestions, or ideas to try for a dog reverting back to her old habits.

Thank you in advance.

KelpieDad

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honeybear
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posted 11-24-2003 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
What a cut dog - never heard of the breed. Could it be something like ADD. I have heard they dogs have it - it is strange that ithas suddenly popped up again, something had to of triggered it. Hope someone else can chime in here with some help

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neek
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posted 11-24-2003 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neek     Edit/Delete Message
Kelpies are great dogs aren't they? As they are herders like Border collies and Australian Cattle dogs they have to be constantly on the go all the time. They get bored very easily and I've known a few to chase cars simply because they have to "herd" something or die trying which is what happened to a friends Kelpie after she was chasing cars.

Kelpies are a one-person dog, that is they stick with one person usually and I would say that's why she suffered from seperation anxiety with you being at work.

I would suggest that if you have the room, finances etc that you get another dog to occupy her when you are at work so she will learn to play with something else besides paper and carpet. It's not really normal for a Kelpie to be chewing at all which suggests to me that she is extremely bored and not very well occupied. (Not blaming you ) Actually they don't make very good pets unless you have plenty of space for them to run and "chase".

Anyway, the second dog was just a suggestion so keep us posted on your gorgeous girl

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KelpieDad
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posted 11-24-2003 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KelpieDad     Edit/Delete Message
I wish that I could:

1. afford another dog for her to play with
2. have enough space for her to run all day

That's why I take her out to the parks right when I get home from work. Rain or shine.

It's strange though how anti-social she is at dog parks. She's nice to all the dogs, but only really cares about guarding her toys.

Someday she'll have a friend to play with but until then I've got to find a way to keep her from chewing up things when I'm away from home.

It's impossible to catch her in the act because she never even goes near the spots she chews when I'm around.

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kyles101
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posted 11-24-2003 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyles101     Edit/Delete Message
my vet tells me seperation anxiety can come back often and if its not treated it gets worse and worse. do what i do with my dog and give her carboard boxes to shred. it makes a mess but she sure loves ripping it to bits instead of ripping my house to bits :P or how about hiring a dog walker for the mornings to tire her out? i know how you feel. my dog still isnt over her seperation anxiety even thought we have tried very hard with training and pills. but she is slowly getting there! hope all goes well.

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Maisey
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posted 11-24-2003 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I love Kelpies! The person I go to for agility training has kelpies and they are awesome dogs, just awesome. Has anything changed in her environment? a girlfriend...moving, differnt hours at work etc? Something that might have sparked the old behavior?
Maybe getting her involved in something like agility or flyball would be an outlet for her. Kelpies are thinkers, try to come up with games that require her to think and play them with her. I don't know what you can do for the time you are gone at work...leave a radio going, TV, hide treats around the house for her to find.
My guess would be either she is bored and getting destructive because of it or something has changed, even something small and it has sparked old behaviors. Sorry I can't be more help.

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KelpieDad
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posted 11-25-2003 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KelpieDad     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Sadly I've tried most of the suggestions already.

I leave a TV on for her (on Animal Planet no less ) hid treats, and even come home on my lunch break whenever I can.

Nothing has changed that I can think of. I've worked the same hours I've always worked since I had her. I've been with my girlfriend longer that I've had my Kelpie.

My dog used to be obsessed with a laser pointer pen, and I thought maybe she was frustrated that she couldn't catch it, and that's why she was chewing. So I put the pointer away and that seemed to help for a couple of weeks.

I've got her in her crate today while I'm at work and it's breaking my heart because I know she has to hate it. Sadly this is all I can do for now. As it is, my rental deposit is going to go to new carpeting when I eventually move out.

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tuttifrutti
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posted 11-25-2003 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuttifrutti     Edit/Delete Message
Have you tried a kong with peanut butter in it? That can take awhile for them to get out, and keep them occupied for long periods of time! Some people even put the p.b. in the night before, freeze it overnight, and then give the dog the frozen p.b. kong in teh morning. I don't know if it would keep her occupied for long or not, it depends on the personality of the dog, and if they give up easily!

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WILBUR1
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posted 11-25-2003 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WILBUR1     Edit/Delete Message
I have a 2yr old pit, who like you and your Kelpie, went through separation anxiety. I was laid off work when I got him, which I enjoyed, then dooms day when I had to go back to work. Willie chewed up 3 couchs, about 20 remote controls, shoes, undies, garbage, and pillows. He hates to be alone...can ya tell! Well I ended up asking my boyfriends dad to "babysit" him while I am working. He is as bad as having a kid, I have to go pick him up every night when I get home and help buy dogfood as he eats there alot. People thought I was crazy for not getting rid of him when he tore up all that stuff but I love him to pieces and there is always a way!! Good luck.

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