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NewLabOwnr
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posted 11-14-2003 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NewLabOwnr     Edit/Delete Message
Well the first significant snow has fallen and it's only going to be 30 out today and Max still does not have a thick coat. I have been paying special attention to all the other dogs in the neighborhood and they certainly have some nice thick fur for the winter. I was wondering if this could be the shar-pei in Max? The shelter said that his mom was a shar-pei, but he really looks like a black lab. He should still get a thick coat even though he's only 6 months old right? Do you think it will be necessary to resort to buying him a sweater? How do I know if he's too cold?

Thanks for any advice anyone can shed on this!

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tuttifrutti
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posted 11-14-2003 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuttifrutti     Edit/Delete Message
I am not sure about your dog, but I think Ranger gets a sweater next year, when he has stopped growing! He is a Britany, and so he doesn't have very long fur, maybe an inch, or a little shorter! For this year, he will have to be inside, or freeze, although he appears to enjoy the cold weather! Since we live in Texas, and he came from even further south in Houston!

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honeybear
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posted 11-14-2003 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
like you said It could be whatever his other mix is, My lab at 6 months was playing in partially frozen ponds and snow. He is not happy unless until the temp gets into 60s and below!. Is he outside all day in this weather? He may or may not need a coat depending how long he is in this environment and if he is what kind of shleter does he have?

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NewLabOwnr
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posted 11-14-2003 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NewLabOwnr     Edit/Delete Message
Oh honeybear I wouldn't leave my poor baby outside! hehe ! But we do go for walks in the woods sometimes for an hour and now with the snow I plan on going cross country skiing. He seems like he is fine always hoping for another loop around the trials when we are walking in the back. He has been looking happy playing in it chasing snowballs and things. I was just concerned he was too cold and I wouldn't know it.

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honeybear
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posted 11-14-2003 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
I didnt know if you work all day and he has to stay outside

Well, I think you need to look at how he is responding in the snow, does he seem cold or fine. Wylie my other dog is shorthairand you would think she would freeze in cold weather, but she loves the snow, she frolics in it like crazy, I have taken her snow shoeing and she does fine because she is active. But after we finish and we are in a quiet period I do have to keep her warm. The snow is about an hour from me, So I have towels to dry her and blankets in the car she can snuggle in on the way home.

LOL, you culd get him a Lands End polartec jacket! I saw this the other day and was laughing so hard because they were showing a lab wearing it, and typically labs love cold weather.

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Jamiya
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posted 11-14-2003 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
The terriers we used to have would shiver when it was too cold. It was quite obvious that they were unhappy.

Nala has yet to mind the cold, although it hasn't been too cold yet this year.

Also, if your dog is running around, that will keep him warmer, too.

I guess you just need to watch and see how he does. Maybe read up on the signs of hypothermia, etc?

As everyone else has said, labs usually love the cold. In fact, my in-laws told me about a dog they had that refused to sleep in his warm doghouse and would sleep in a snowbank instead. In Montana. He loved it!


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Maisey
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posted 11-14-2003 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
My dog is probabbly half Shar-Pei too, Witt's mom is a Catahoula. I know that Catahoulas are single coated and I think Shar-peis are too.(meaning they don't have an undercoat) Witt lives in the house with me, but if he will be outside for a while at an event or something and it's cold I have a "raincoat" that I put on him, it's not very heavy, more like a wind breaker. I haven't ever noticed him being cold while we were on an outing but sometimes at night in my bedroom I have noticed him scrunch into a tighter ball while he is sleeping ( I don't turn the heat on in my bedroom)he usually cuddles up with me and then I'll toss a blanket over him.
Now that I said that about being single coated ..I'm gonna go look it up.

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Maisey
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posted 11-14-2003 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
NewLabOwner, the Shar-pei is a single- coated dog, it has no undercoat. I thought you might like to look at the link too... http://www.irishdogs.ie/Breeds/Shar%20Pei.htm
If your dog is half lab...he may have an undercoat, because that breed does. Take a close look and see if your dog has an undercoat, if not, he may get a little colder without that kind of "downey" coat close to the skin.

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NewLabOwnr
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posted 11-14-2003 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NewLabOwnr     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks everyone! I'm sure I'm just being a worried mom. It's so funny how much Max looks like a lab to me but when I read the description of the Shar-pei on that site Maisey posted a lot of it described Max. His tail is very high set but it's not a curly tail. He doesn't have the big wrinkles that the shar-pei's have but he dose have some wrinkles. He seems to be completely fine now, when we take longer walks I'll have to keep a closer eye on him. Now if only I could break him of the awful jumping habit

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lovemydog
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posted 11-19-2003 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovemydog     Edit/Delete Message
I signed on today to see if there was any info on this...seems it is the season! Does anyone know how long it would take an Akita/huskie cross to grow a winter coat?? Tyson's been a house dog since we got him (all of four months ago) and it's now getting down to -15, -20C and his teeth chatter & he gets huge shivers if we leave him out even for an hour. My boyfriend's going travelling & I need to be able to leave Tyson outside while I'm at work -- or is it terrible to keep them inside for more than 8 hours? I figure the best I could do would be 8.45 h!! Thanks for your help

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honeybear
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posted 11-20-2003 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
Lovemydog, your dog is Tyson right? And he is older so he should have his winter coat. He probably just doesn do well in the cold. Some dogs dont even though they have the fur. As for leaving him in the house - If he sleeps in the house all night without problems he should be able to stay in the house but you have to get him on a schedule. And that is before work take him on a walk and teach him the command potty and go with him outside and do the same, so he learns to to go to the bathroom when you take him out. My dogs can go like 12 hours - it is amazing. Before we had a dog door we used this method and they knew when it was walk time in the morning it was time to go. Now that I have a dog door they have lost that. ability.

I wouldnt leave him out for 8 hours if he is not acclimated to it. Some people have posted here that have dog houses and fill them with blankets and hay that works well - but their dogs like the cold and outside weather.

So I would get him trained to do his potty before you leave and you should have no problem leaving him in the house for that long

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NewLabOwnr
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posted 11-20-2003 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NewLabOwnr     Edit/Delete Message
I don't see where you should have a problem leaving Tyson in for more than 8 hrs. A lot of people I know do this and while it doesn't seem ideal to leave him in that long it seems much better than him being outside. I'm sure he'll be much happier curling up on your couch or bed than being outside in the cold .

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lovemydog
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posted 11-20-2003 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovemydog     Edit/Delete Message
I can't tell you how reassured I am that +8 hours is okay!! I was considering hiring someone to let him out at lunch!! We'll start taking him out first thing in the morning to get him to "go" in time and you're right he'll DEFINITELY appreciate the couch & bed while I'm away.
If this works, this is my little lap dog below!!


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NewLabOwnr
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posted 11-20-2003 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NewLabOwnr     Edit/Delete Message
OMG how cute!

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honeybear
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posted 11-21-2003 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
Lovemydog, he is so pretty oops how about handsome! Liek you said ust start practicing getting him to go before you leave in the morning and you should have no problem letting him stay in the house all day

good luck

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