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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 11-05-2003 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone! First I would like to again thank you all for the great advise...so THANKS! O.K. now: I think Casey is getting real close now, I have noticed that her breast's are very large, and she sleeps alot. This is not like her at all, she's normally up and about wanting to play or snooping around out back. I can feel the puppies moving inside her now, just noticed this about two days ago. I have a rectal thermometer, but she won't let me use it on her.

The problem is I'm not exactly sure how along she is. I know for a fact that she is at least 49 days pg but could be 60 to 63 days. I know they deliver around the 63 day mark, so it could be "NOW"

I purchased an old crib, sawed off the legs and put bedding in it. I also made a ramp for her, because it's a little bit too high for her to get into, being so big and all. I used an ironing borad for a ramp, works out real well. I'm wondering if the bedding should be firm? Common sinse says it should, but I want to be sure.

Plus if there is anyone who just had pups, could you please give me a detailed description of what to expect, in behavior and delivery? I have looked on sites that explain it, but would love a first hand account!!!!! The vet says that she will probably start to scope out a closet or something when she get's close....

Thank you in advance for your much needed advise!

P.S. Masey thanks! you were right! I do use viniger, but I do put ammonia in it, will try what you use....

Sincerely, Susan

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charmedagain
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posted 11-06-2003 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Congrats on your dog doing so well..

When my dogs have there litters i always use newspaper until the litter is born then once all have been delivered i have a heat pad ready i check each puppy to check for any problems and place them on the pad one all have been checked i then take out the paper wipe down whelpiing box with a little disinfectant then place a couple of blankets or a duvet in and give mum her litter back....

The day your dog is due she could show all or no signs of onset of labour...

Stage one is usually the time nesting becomes intense, she will become restless due to the mild contractions. sometimes they even vomit,, some dogs will lose there appetite others enjoy a hearty meal before delivery...

Second stage is when the contractions become more intense and you can see her activally pushing or bearing down, this will carry on till first puppy is born this can take anything from 1 minute upto 2 hours..
If your dog is pushing and no puppy is produced after 1 hour of active pushing then a vet should be called or your dog taken to an emergancy vet as this could mean either a puppy is in breach position or the birth canal is to small for the pups to be passed..

Third stage is when the afterbirth ( placenta ) is expelled not all afterbirths will follow each puppy but all should be accounted for in the event that one is retained in the womb this can cause infections in her womb and surgery will be need to correct the problem

First stage labour can last upto 48 hours 72 is not uncommon...

I provide my dogs with a little water during each delivery...

Also some bitches can deliver half the litter then rest for a few hours before carrying on.

Mine had her 9th pup at 3am and had her 10th at 10.30am....

If your dog starts pushing and part of the pup is delivered and she stops straining due to her muscles tiring you and help but this has to be done with caution and is not advised if never done it before..

Providing there is enough of the puppy expelled for you to take hold of it with a clean towel or cloth gently pull the puppy only when the bitch pushes this will help expel the pup...

You can also help a novice bitch if she does not start to clean the puppies as soon as they are born you can gently tear the membrane around its mouth to let it breathe then show her the puppy and she should start to lick it clean be careful not to damage the umbilical cord....

If she still wont clean the puppy, you then with the umbilical cord tie a piece if string about 2cms away from the puppy carful not to pull on it and using a clean sterile pair of scissors cut the cord below the knot of the string and then rub the puppy to stimulate breathing once the pup starts to cry this should be enough to make mum pay attention....

All in all i would have a vet on standby incase of any problems that may arise....

Sorry i have gone on hope this all helps..

kepp us posted of how she is doing...

mike

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Jas

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posted 11-06-2003 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
It is important to be able to take her temperature and record it because the change in temp. will tell you within about 24 hrs when labor will start. I usually record it about a week before the expected date. Best to know because then you can further prepare yourself and make sure nothing goes wrong and it will give you time to call the vet to have him on standby in case of an emergency. You NEED to know her temperature and when her temp drops and for how long because if labor hasn't started you need to call a vet ASAP, you could be risking the mom and babes by not knowing.

Take Temp. when she is calm, make her lie down, have someone hold her front and comfort her and give her treats, it really doesn't take long just a couple of mins but it is important - Normal temp is 101.5. below 98.4 usually indicates labor will begin within 24 hours. Use Vaseline on the tip to help.
Other signs of labor include panting, restlessness, digging, loss of appetite, dilated pupils, she may look for somewhere dark and comforting to hide (like your bed!! )

It is really important you keep track of time when labor starts, how long in between pups, if you can have someone there with you it helps. Once the pups are born, make sure mom is tending to the pup and removing the sack, some bitches will do this naturally, others don't know. Make sure the pup gets out of the sack right away because once the pup has gone through the birth canal it is no longer getting oxygen. Step in and assist mom if you need to. Once pup is born make sure all airways are cleared and clean up puppy. Do you have a scale? Pups will need to be weighed and fed by mom, if their is enough time before the next one comes. If any pup is not moving it needs to be revived and stimulated, get a towel and vigorously but gentle rub the pup.

Good luck! Keep us updated.

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 11-06-2003 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your advise. You shared everything that I have read up on, I appreciate it! Yes I have a scale, and will use it. My hope "of coarse" is that she will do it all on her own. But I will assist if needed. My niece is coming to stay with us for a while, so I won't be alone. She is 18 yrs. of age, and has had a female with pups before. I will keep you all posted. Susan

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posted 11-06-2003 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
I have a question>>> is it common or uncommon for the bitch to need help? I know I need to know what could happen, but! I would like to think that more often than not, they do it alone.....Sincerely, Susan

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charmedagain
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posted 11-07-2003 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, Some bitches need help others dont..
I thought when one of kmy dogs had her first litter that she might need help but she did it all herself and was great aslong as you have a vet on standby incase of an emergancy
and there is someone there to give you a hand should a situation arise then hopefully everything will go well....

Some breeds have trouble free whelping but a talk with your vet will determine wether she will need a c-section..

good luck and i hope all goes well

mike

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 11-07-2003 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Mike, You have been so helpful, as well as others..of coarse...I do have the vet on stand by, she know's it's coming. Just the thought of a "c" section scares me to death...but I know all will go well, just want it over with, know what I mean???? I just love this site! it gives me some much needed support! I love reading about all the different topics, although sometime's it's a little sad...thanks again. Sincerely, Susan

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Karriesue
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posted 11-07-2003 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karriesue     Edit/Delete Message
Good luck Susan. Sounds like you are plenty prepared. I know all will go well. I look forward of hearing about the puppies. Don't forget to keep us posted!

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neek
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posted 11-08-2003 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neek     Edit/Delete Message
Don't make the mistake that if she delivers her pups without help that she won't need it afterward! You need to keep an eye on her and the pups to make sure she is nursing them right and that they are warm enough.

When my pitbull had pups she did everything perfect until they were all delivered then she didn't have a clue. As she had them at night, we went to bed, got up the next morning and there were two dead pups. She had actually killed them by biting or snapping at them and there were three more who were close to death from bite wounds.
We could not save them as she had also rejected them and they got too cold to survive. We had to raise the remaining six pups which was hard as I had a baby in the house as well.

I'm not trying to scare you and each mommy dog is different, just try and be prepared for the ineveitable.

Good luck!

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posted 11-09-2003 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neek     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry!!! The last comment about the inevitable was wrong. I meant be prepared for the unexpected!! Sorry again.

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charmedagain
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posted 11-09-2003 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
Hi susan, well hope everything goes well for mummy and her litter when they arrive...

I noticed you said the idea of a c-section scares you it did my mum with one of her dogs, but they give the just enough aneasthetic to keep them under long enough to remove the puppies once pups are out and mum stitched up then she is woken up and place with her new family the suckling of her pups brings the bitch round alot faster..

But Hopefully it wont come to that..
Good luck You will do great helping her ..

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 11-09-2003 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
No puppies yet! will let you know. Thanks Neek, you can bet I will keep an eye on her..she's my baby!!!!! no other way of putting that....thanks to you too Mike...Sincerely, Susan oh and Maisy and, and, and, "ALL"

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