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pupeetrouble
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posted 11-03-2003 04:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
We have a miniature dachshund puppy, he's almost 5 months old. He gets so excited when he sees us get home from work or anywhere that he pees all over the place. We've noticed that he'll pee out of control when he's excited or scared. He even pees on our bed alot. We let him sleep with us because if we don't he'll cry all night. We dicipline him with a little spank on his butt then we put him outside for a while. I'm not too sure if that's really working. But whenever he does pee outside we reward him with a treat. Do you know why he pees when he's excited or scared? How can we stop that? It's so hard, we've had him for 2 1/2 months now we've tried pretty much all we could think of doing. THX.

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tuttifrutti
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posted 11-03-2003 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuttifrutti     Edit/Delete Message
You should try putting him outside as soon as you get him, and of course going out there with him to say hello. When they go to the bathroom outside, do not give them a treat, at least that is what I read, we just praised our britany alot, and by about 4 months of age he had it figured out, but don't think your dog is slow, his sister is still working on it. On your bed, have you tried using Natures Miracle, he may just be peeing over certain places there because he smells the old places. Hope you get it all figured out

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puttin510
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posted 11-03-2003 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
It is submissive peeing. My terrier used to do this. I finally just ignored him when I first came home. I think the dog just gets overly anxious and wants so badly to please you that he looses it. Just don't make a big deal upon your arrival home. Put down your bag do what you need to do and the dog can get used to you being there without the confrontation of you to him. Mine also would roll on his back, as if he thought he would get hit or something. So that is when I started to ignore him and not make a big deal out of coming home. Let me know if it works. It will take some time for your dog to stop this as he is a pupy still. Aslo you could try the doggie diapers until he gets a handle on things.

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nern
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posted 11-03-2003 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
You should never punish a dog for submissive urination. The dog is being "submissive" and punishing him will only make this problem worse. This is actually pretty common in puppies and most of them grow out of it.
Here is some more info for you: http://petplace.netscape.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=1808
"Submissive urination can be a frustrating and embarrassing problem. Fortunately, it is often easily corrected. Shy, timid puppies are the most likely candidates for submissive urination but occasionally it persists into young adulthood. This problem is most common in female puppies under 1 year of age.
Situations that precipitate submissive urination include:

Over affectionate greetings

Guests entering your home

Arguments between people

Scolding

Loud noises

Dogs are social animals that use subtle cues to maintain order and prevent disputes. In order to display deference to a more dominant individual, a submissive dog uses gestures such as averting her eyes, rolling on her back, and urinating. So when a dog feels intimidated or threatened, the appropriate response is to offer a submissive signal. These signals demonstrate that the dog recognizes another individual's dominance. The urination that occurs is not a spiteful act but a natural part of a dog’s behavioral repertoire.
Before embarking on treatment for this problem, it is wise to contact your local veterinarian. He or she will perform a physical examination of your dog to rule our medical problems that may be contributing to the predicament. If medical problems are involved, your vet will discuss the various treatment options with you like surgery, drugs, and/or various coping strategies.

Note: Puppies become more confident as they grow older. Most puppies outgrow submissive urination before one year of age. Unfortunately, some owners inadvertently encourage the behavior by coddling their nervous youngster. Touching and praise, which you may believe are reassuring your puppy, are actually telling her, “Continue this behavior; I like it.” Instead, try to ignore timid behavior and praise the puppy when she is acting more confidently.

Treating Submissive Urination

There are two objectives in treating submissive urination: The first is to increase your dog’s confidence, and the second is to avoid situations in which the behavior will occur until your puppy becomes more mature. Begin by observing which situations elicit the inappropriate urination behavior. Knowing these, you can design a plan of action.

Take your dog to non-confrontational training school. Click and treat training is best. A properly trained dog is usually more confident.

Try to expose your dog to as many novel environments as possible. But remember, do not coddle. Praise the dog only when she shows confidence and explores the new environment.

Encourage confidence by playing tug of war, retrieving games or play fighting.

Scolding and punishment DO NOT WORK. They only make the dog feel more powerless and less in control.

Do not loom over the dog, touch her nape, or make prolonged eye contact. These are all dominant signs and will be interpreted as such. Ask strangers to avoid greeting your dog or, alternatively, crouch down to the dog’s level, avert their gaze, and gently encourage her to approach.

Limiting your dog’s intake of water when you know guests are coming over can sometimes help. Pick up the water bowl (and close the toilet bowl lids) 3 to 4 hours prior to their arrival. Caution: some dogs with medical problems that increase their thirst should never have water withheld. If in doubt, check with your veterinarian.

If your dog urinates out of excitement when you return home and greet her, try to downplay the greeting by ignoring her for a few minutes until she calms down. If the problem occurs when friends greet her ask them to do this, too.

The above procedures help a great deal in avoiding urination whoopsies until the dog becomes more confident. Positive changes are usually seen in a few weeks, if not sooner. If submissive urination persists after 2 years of age, drug therapy can be instituted at the discretion of your veterinarian. And remember, be patient; accidents will happen.

Prevention is the easiest way to deal with submissive urination. The right style of obedience class can be an excellent confidence booster for your dog. Such classes can also open your eyes to the ways that you unconsciously reinforce a negative behavior, and will teach you the importance of well timed praise (and other rewards) in a healthy relationship with your dog."

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