posted 04-22-2003 01:17 PM           

quotes from jjami

"your an ignorant ass."

XXXXX Thank you jjami. Once again your displays of intelligence and kindness shine through. Call me what you like, doesn't bother me, but if you need to resort to such tactics to make your point you end up looking like the fool.

"...i'm more inclined to believe that my "beloved" shermans mom & dad got together because of careless owners that did not spay or neuter."

XXXXX Maybe, but anyone who has a litter becomes a "breeder" and i use that term loosely, they have a responsibility but many choose NOT to be responsible. Intentional or not a litter was born and pups were dumped off. This is the reality of owning or breeding mixes AND purebreds and is the same reality for the mixed poodle breeds. The "breeder" their dog came from was careless, they did not care to spend the time educating their buyers, nor did they follow up to see if their dog was cared for and altered. Now they too will have "oops" or intentional breedings and so shall we see a rise in # of dogs needing homes.

"so all in all my husband and i did a good thing for him and for us. why aren't you saying how wonderful we are for doing what you keep beating people up over?? i went to the shelter!! i rescued a dog!! comeon, wheres the kudos to me? you don't really care about that at all do you?"

XXXXX I'm sorry I didn't realize this thread was ABOUT YOU. But if you want a pat on the back sure, I have no problem with that, I am grateful that you did save a dog.

"are the people that read & post here supposed to be blown away with your superior knowlege? your high moral standards?"

XXXXX I'm sorry you feel threatened by my intelligence. I do have good standards.

"your ability to completely overlook the topic of the post and not offer any knowledge or advise to the poster?"

XXXXX I almost always offer some education, links or input.

"which as i've said before is so freaking TYPICAL of you and your buddies that think like you that continue to beat this particular horse! your not saying anything different that hasn't already been said 100,000 times already, you all just enjoy seeing your words on the board and pissing people off!"

XXXXXX I'll say them 100,000 times again if that what it takes. If you don't like my response don't read it. Simple solution. As for my "buddies" well these are people sharing my view, sorry you don't like it but too bad. They have a right to state their beliefs just as I do. There is logic and reason and experience behind our posts. I am not sure why you feel any opposing view to yours is wrong and I truly don't understand your logic.

"as for the poo-crosses becoming a true breed, who knows? who the hell cares?? the people that own them don't. the people that want them don't. i do not see why on earth it should bother YOU so much! i own one, i enjoy talking to other people that own one or want to own one. whats YOUR excuse for being in this post other than to start controversy?"

XXXXX Point proven.... who cares? obviously you don't, the only thing you care about is harassing anyone who disagrees with your mentality. I care. I care about now and I care about the wrath I will be cleaning up in 10 years. There are no laws to govern the health and breeding of our animals. Anyone can and WILL breed. Maybe there are the few breeders who take the poo breeds seriously but most are Joe Blows who breed anything they get their hands on because of a trend and chance to sell mixes for big $$. This is what I care about. If there are those seriously planning to establish the poo crosses even they won't like to see unscrupulous "breeders" wrecking what they are trying to establish. You claim to hate to see animals suffer yet are too busy being defensive and argumentative rather than see the reality--- they are suffering! The more people that buy mixes from breeders, the less people adopting from rescue and shelters. You are right about one thing, I've been forgetting to post my favorite educational links.

I'm sorry that your hatred for me takes over because I am sure you are a reasonable person who does care about the welfare of animals. www.petfinder.com
Dog owners Guide http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodogs.html
http://dogladybarks.homestead.com/oodlesofdoodlesandlhasapoo.html

The backyard breeder http://www.netal.org/The%20Backyard%20Breeder.htm

posted 04-23-2003 10:06 PM           

Absolutely....,the snobbier the better (now now, just kidding to those who may take that literally)
heehee You can be my buddy anytime

posted 04-23-2003 11:12 PM           

"Now I didn't have time to read everyone of the post above but I did read several and can someone please explain why my puppy is going to suffer because he is not purebred??? I don't agree with you on this."

XXXXX Well please take the time to read before you reply, since you haven't read what you're disagreeing with.

Its not that your particular puppy will suffer (directly) because its not "purebred", its that irresponsible breeders are PURPOSELY breeding to create new mixes, and failing to health test & certify their breeding dogs. Any dog MIXED OR PUREBRED can and will suffer when the breeders are not breeding with the purpose to better their dogs, are not responsible, ethical, or HEALTH TESTING!!!! In addition to that they are flooding the market, so its actually the dogs right here right now in shelters who are alive (for now) and suffering because no one wants them. What the "innocent" "unsuspecting" buyer doesn't understand is that by purchasing a dog they are supporting such a breeders poor breeding practices. A good breeder doesn't breed for the "demand", they breed for themselves.

"I feel some of these people especially the breeders speaking out here are only mad because these mixed breeds are cutting into your pure bred profit."

XXXXX ANY breeder should not be breeding with the intent to profit, and few *dedicated* (key word here) breeders actually do profit. Why? Because it is expensive and time consuming to health test our dogs, to show them in conformation, and to properly whelp and raise a litter, where much of our time and money is spent. Do I mind? No, its my hobby NOT my job. I can't speak for anyone else but I "profit" off my daytime, non-dog job and ***I live for my dogs NOT off my dogs!*** I have waitlists for my pups well before I occasionally breed. The type of people looking for a poo mix are not the same "type" of people looking for my breed, so it really doesn't effect me as a breeder. On the other hand as a rescue worker it effects me, and rescue and shelters greatly!!!

What makes you think that by breeding mixes you get a better pup? Define better? By adding another dog to a pedigree, doesn't breed anything "out", what it does to is add in a lot of unknown variables to the gene pool..... unless the lines are well known and well researched but even that is not a guarantee. A "sickly" dog shouldn't be bred period.