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Michelle unregistered |
posted 04-19-2003 04:13 PM
I had a beautiful baby boy yorkie named Wolfman. He was born on 2/20/03. I bought him on 4/12/03. I had him 2 1/2 days before he went into the hospital on 4/15/03 with parvo. It came on very fast. My 1 1/2 lb. boy fought for 4 days before I had to put him to sleep on 4/19/03 because he couldn't fight anymore. I am now left crying and torn apart. He's my baby. I paid alot of money for him and the hospital bills were very costly. I wanted to save him and so did Wolfie's vet. Money can't bring him back, but I don't want the breeder to benefit from my pain, tears, broken heart and my Wolfman's death. My questions are: how do I go about finding out what the laws are in Cleveland, Ohio to get my money back? Can I get the cost of the dog back, cost of the vet bills back or both? Can anyone help? I have never had a situation like this happen before. Are there laws to protect people like me who invest in an aminal and they die and get nothing out of it but sadness? If there aren't laws does anyone know how I can go about getting laws passed to help us who buy dogs, get attached and they die from illness? IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member  Posts: 99 |
posted 04-19-2003 04:35 PM
Michelle, my Baby boy Yorkie/silky also had to be put down from this virus. Did you have a health guarantee on your puppy when you bought him? I got my money back for the puppy, because there was a health guarantee, but we did not ask for the vet bill money, and doubt we would of gotten them. You need to contact your breeder, and talk about the situation, to see if you will be able to get money back. I know its hard, but in time you will feel better. =) IP: Logged |
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Michelle unregistered |
posted 04-19-2003 05:18 PM
Yes I have a guarantee, but she is trying to fight it. She says that she doesn't know how the dog got parvo. It could have been from anywhere not just her place. I researched and found out that parvo takes anywhere from 3-10 days to come on. I only had him 2 1/2 days. I also had 2 different vets write a letter for me that it had to have come from the breeder. She is still fighting even with all of this information. I am glad that you responded and I am sorry for your loss our pets are a part of our hearts forever. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-19-2003 05:57 PM
=) Whatever I can do to help! =) ok, firstly how long was the puppy's health guarantee? It really doesn't matter if the puppy caught this disease from you or her, in my opinion...If she was a responsible breeder, she would of givin him his shots/vacc aginst parvo. Thats really all I can tell you until I know how long the guarantee is. =) IP: Logged |
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danelover unregistered |
posted 04-19-2003 07:35 PM
Maltees2003 I don't think this pup was old enough for ALL of it's Parvo shots yet. And No the breedes guarantee would not cover a pup who caught Parvo after leaving.But this pup sounds like it was sold with Parvo. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-19-2003 08:26 PM
My mistake, I didn't realize this puppy was so young. Your right danelover, he was to young for all vaccs, but a responsible breeder would not sale a pup that young anyways. And yes he should still be covered wether he caught it there or not. Well, really depending on your breeder. I would really just talk to her/him about the gurarantee... =) let me know what happens! IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 04-19-2003 09:11 PM
Michelle, You can take the breeder to small claims court.I would as for my money,vet,and court cost. I as a breed would give you money and pay for the vet bills.I would be happy to do that because if it were one of my pups,I would want to know.That way I could check all my dogs. Maltese, IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-19-2003 09:13 PM
Pitbullprincess, I've read MANY webs, and asked breeders, and they said what I said. BTW I wasn't referring to all breeder. Sorry if you got that message. I meant toy breeders. Because, they are so little. =) Yes, I'm right now this one! IP: Logged |
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JP unregistered |
posted 04-19-2003 10:27 PM
Michelle, So sorry for your loss. Poor little fella. It sounds like the pup had parvo before it left the breeder but pups can pick it up anywhere where they have come in contact with contaminated animal feces (a common way of contrating but not the only). 2 days is a too short time...but did you have him out anywhere besides your yard? The parvo shot *can* also cause parvo in puppies, it has been known to happen, but may day a few days or weeks before symptoms appear. When was his first parvo shot? Does your contract advise you to have your dog examined and deemed healthy by a vet within 72 hours (or so) of purchase? If so you should have a case. Did you receive a record of health (shot record) from the breeder? If so there should be the breeders vet clinic's name on there. Might be a long shot but call them and see if you can find out if any other of her pups were treated for parvo, then you would have a stronger case. Ethically & morally any responsible breeder would replace that pup or refund you fully especially within that time frame. As a breeder I would feel terrible if this happened and would assume responsibility regardless. Sorry that not only you have deal with grief but contend with a bad breeder. Does the breeder belong to any breed club? Try searching the net for a yorkie club in your area, there may be someone who could help you further...especially if the breeder signed their code of ethics. I hope things work out. IP: Logged |
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Fluff unregistered |
posted 04-20-2003 10:35 AM
Are there other puppies at the breeder's house dying of parvo? If not then most likely the dog contracted it AFTER if left. You could have parvo in the ground around your home. You CANNOT blame the breeder for a contagious disease unless the breeder was having sick dogs BEFORE you came to her house. While I agree that breeders should offer guarantees...the buyer has to show some responsibilty in carryng for the animal. Breeders cannot hold your hand every step of the way and if a dog contracts an illness the breeder is not responsible for it. I am very sorry for your loss...but I think you might be trying to put blame on some one..when no one is at fault! IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-20-2003 10:47 AM
If she had the puppy for 2 1/2 days before he got sick, then it was PROBABLY and MOST likely the breeder. Because...most of the time you couldn't catch it that fast...Just like my puppy. IP: Logged |
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Fluff unregistered |
posted 04-21-2003 04:43 PM
If it was contracted at the breeders, they would have other puppies that were ill with it. IF the breeder is clean, then NO it most likely DID NOT come from the breeder's. Parvo *usually* has an incubation period of 7-14 days...it does not mean it can ONLY have an incubation period of that time..especially in a young puppy who is far more suspetable. Also there is a possibilty this puppy could have coronavirus, which is similar to parvo, however the incubation period is not the same. IP: Logged |
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Michelle unregistered |
posted 04-22-2003 08:25 PM
The vet finally agreed to give me money back for the dog after I told her that 4 vets said that when I bought my puppy it had parvo from the breeder. I don'dt know what changed her mind all of a sudden. She wouldn't tell me. Maybe other people who bought puppies from her called her with sick puppies. To the person who wrote earlier: I wasn't trying to pin this on the breeder. I had no clue where my puppy got sick. THE VETS TOLD ME that the puppy was bought with parvo. That is why I believed them. I was just trying to get him better. They all told me that is where it came from and I should call the breeder and let her know that I had a puppy that had parvo. IP: Logged |
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Michelle unregistered |
posted 04-22-2003 08:33 PM
I want to say thank you to everyone for your kind words and advice. I have never had this happen to me before and found this sight searching for answers. I decided to post a question and I was surprised in all of the responses I got. I never realized how many dog lovers there are out there. Does anyone know how long I have to wait after bleeching everything before I can bring another puppy into the house? I have called numerous vets and there answers varied from 1 week to 9 months. This is a huge range and I don't want this to happen to any other puppy I bring into the house. Please help again. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 99 |
posted 04-22-2003 08:44 PM
Michelle, It reall depends how old your other puppy will be, how well you cleaned your house..etc... You see, we bought kennel sol, put it in a steam cleaner and steam cleaned our carpets, bleached throws/rugs/toys....we washed bedding in kennel sol, we had the carpets steam cleaned before this also, I bleached the porches down, and also spray kennel sol, and bleached bathroom floors. My mom got a puppy and everything is going alright so far. She wait about 2 months...I'm waiting 3 to get my puppy. You will hear alot of different opinions on here. I'm just telling you about my experiences so far, my friend had this happen, and she got a puppy and it be ok...My aunt had a puppy die of parvo outside and none of her other dogs got it. So what kind are you planning on getting? I'm getting a Maltese...They are great dogs to consider! =) Also make sure to wash in HOT water anything u can I think that helps... You should also buy a parvo disinfectant...My mom found "Kennel Sol" It is suppose to be what the kennels you to wash down them. How long has it been so far? I've read anywhere from 1 month-6 montsh - 1 yr...I think it really depends on how much your willing to scrub and clean. Lol! Let me hear back form you! =) IP: Logged |
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Michelle unregistered |
posted 04-22-2003 10:18 PM
I want to gat another yorkie. My Wolfman died on 4/19/03. I am not ready emotionally yet for another dog, but I do want one on the near future because I got Wolfie because I truly want a dog. It will just take awhile. I have been beeching everthing and I am still a little nervous that I missed something even though I know I didn't. It was just horrible to go through parvo once. I don't want to do it again if I can help it. I also got rid of all of the toys, bowls and beds because vets have told me to do this and I would rather start all over and be less worried about having the things that my Wolfman had. IP: Logged |
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puttin510 Member Posts: 616 |
posted 04-22-2003 10:30 PM
So sory to here about your little wolfman. By what I have read thru this forum. I am with the majority and say its the breeders fault and maybe her quick change of mind in giving back your money, was due to the fact that others were coming back with the same parvo problems. This sort of news around town can squash a breeder. She probably realized she better get it over with, instead of having her name dragged thru the gutter. I hope you find yourself a new little buddy in time. Yes, there sure are many dog lovers all over. These types of forums are a great release The average person on the steet would look at us like we are nuts for caring so much for our pets. They are our family members. Welcome to the forum. IP: Logged |
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Michelle unregistered |
posted 04-22-2003 10:34 PM
Thanks alot and I do agree that the public would think that we are nuts, but our puppies are family to us. They need to be taken care of like babies when they are young. I had a yorkie and he was 1 1/2 lbs. so he really needed to be taken care of. IP: Logged |
RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 04-23-2003 01:53 AM
Michelle as far as how long to wait. To be better than safe than sorry I would tell you 9 months. You can never be sure that you got everything bleaced. I would recommend that if you get another dog within the next year to year and a half to have gotten all of the puppy shots up to 16 weeks before bringing the puppy into the house. This way there isnt a chance of your puppy getting parvo again and it can take up to the last set of shots for the immunization to take effect. I am so sorry for your loss. IP: Logged |
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Aurora New Member  Posts: 4 |
posted 05-02-2003 02:27 PM
Babes, You can access your local laws/ ordinances on the net.Use key words like, Ohio,State Laws,or GOV.But (I'm not sure) I ever heard of a law that required any mandatory vaccinations other than rabies, So I'm sure it may be a word to the wise to purchase/ adopt animals with all of their up-to-date shots.I sincerely apologise you & your babe were victims of neglect.Possibly making us aware to prevent this from happening to another animal and mommy is a way to move forward, and bring something positive out of this awful situation you experienced.(no luck with the laws, try small claims court,a judge will decide what was right and wrong)it's not against the law to be a victim.It's a contradiction of morality to let an animal be................ ****Start by addressing your city mayor, then work your way up to the ones above him/her the ones above them until someone is responsive.Most likely your local senator wil be the one to act.But he will need someone more credible than a stranger to be impacted.A list of who does what and how and #'s Address' to reach them are available the same way I wrote of at the top. Good luck, I hope you can use some of this information [This message has been edited by Aurora (edited 05-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2004 unregistered |
posted 05-02-2003 05:45 PM
*sorry my e-mail is broken, and can't access my Pass Word... So im a unreg person. I just want to say my mom had a puppy, die of parvo (from a test that showed up) or coccidia (first guess of the vets) but probably parvo. WE CLEANED our hearts out, and then again. my mom got a new puppy at 12 wks old, with all current shots, and she is just fine and dandy! She also has been vet checked since then and healthy. She will have a 16 wk old shot to be safe though. she is about 15 wks old and a feisty little thing. *so to michelle ...you dont have to wait that long, if you take precautions (however u spell that) just make sure you clean again (try steam bleaching your carpets) and make sure you get your new ones shots kept up. And he/she should do fine! *ppl can not say anything about this! It is experience, not off of a website! IP: Logged |
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JP unregistered |
posted 05-03-2003 09:58 PM
People are trying to help Michelle and offer advise, its not about how fast to get a new pup its about making a logical and smart decision. Yes a new pup right away might not get sick or it may but why take a chance and risk the heartbreak and losing everything again. Is it worth that? Also you could have the cleanest house & yard, but some dogs have a stronger immunity to parvo and others weaker. Michelle said emotionally she is not ready for another dog. One thing from *experience* a good breeder friend of mine lost her litter to parvo brought in by a visiting puppy family. She cleaned her place to the high heavens and ONE year later had another litter and they too got parvo. A $5000 trip to the vet saved them -- luckily. I'd wait 9 mths - a year. IP: Logged |
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malteseof2004 unregistered |
posted 05-06-2003 04:54 PM
I want to gat another yorkie. My Wolfman died on 4/19/03. I am not ready emotionally yet for another dog, but I do want one on the near future because I got Wolfie because I truly want a dog. It will just take awhile. I have been beeching everthing and I am still a little nervous that I missed something even though I know I didn't. It was just horrible to go through parvo once. I don't want to do it again if I can help it. I also got rid of all of the toys, bowls and beds because vets have told me to do this and I would rather start all over and be less worried about having the things that my Wolfman had. is what michelle wrote. She wanted to know how long to wait. So, I told her from personal experience! And I was not talking to you JP so dont reply if u dont like it. IP: Logged |
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