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cherokeenw unregistered |
posted 01-27-2003 12:59 AM
We have had three litters of Shih Poos, and I am not in it to make money. I have let her have three litters due to the fact they make one of the most loving pets for childern. Our daughter is handicap and they are great companions for these childern. I have a great deal of elderly asking for them too. Some breeders refer to them as mutts but we refer to them as loving companions. They are super easy to train and well behaved dogs. IP: Logged |
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Albert Member  Posts: 143 |
posted 01-27-2003 01:30 AM
Well said !!! IP: Logged |
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TUPPY unregistered |
posted 03-12-2003 02:32 PM
Hi, I have a 3 yr. old schi-poo spayed female. She is a sturdy lovable playfull little darling. We've had her since a baby, to me she is worth every bit of the 600. we payed for her. We bought her from a pet store, she was not a puppy mill pup. Then a year ago we bought a sister for her, a one year old purebred maltese, we got her from a lady that couldn't have her where she was moving. She also is a little darling, but very jealous,of our 1st little Shi-poo. It has been a bit of a trial sometimes, but we love her so much, we just work around her jealosy, as best we can. So there you have a purebred and a cross bred, Very different in our case, but one is friendly to every one, she would go home with anyone, and the other one might try to nip your heel as you leave. They are as different as chaulk and cheese. IP: Logged |
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danelover unregistered |
posted 03-13-2003 05:32 PM
You paid 600.00 for a mixed dog? I'm not against mixed breeds,, they make the best pets,, I am against people breeding then as a NEW breed of dog. How do you know it's not a puppy mill dog? No reputable breeder would sell their pups to a pet store. Puppy mills frequently house dogs in shockingly poor conditions, particularly for the "breeding stock" animals who are caged and continually bred for years, without human companionship, and then killed, abandoned or sold to another “miller” after their fertility wanes. These adult dogs are bred repeatedly to produce litter after litter—without hope of ever becoming part of a family. The result is hundreds of thousands of puppies churned out each year for sale at pet stores, over the Internet, and through newspaper ads. This practice will end only when people stop buying these puppy mill puppies. Reputable breeders care where their puppies go and interview hopeful adopters. They don't ever sell through pet stores or to families they haven't thoroughly checked out. IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 03-13-2003 06:01 PM
DANELOVER, I will have to agree with you there.I would never sell any of my pups to a petstore.I am sorry,but there is no way I would pay $600 for a mix..I am not saying mixes are bad,but come on..I feel if it is not pure bred then it needs to be free.My pups range from $400 to $2000.All but one of my dogs is A.D.B.A registered and come from great stock. I think the lady that payed $600 got ripped off.Not that your money was wasted,because if you love your dog,then it was money well spent.But its not even a purebreed. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 186 |
posted 03-13-2003 10:01 PM
I agree with danelover and pitbull_princess, your pup may not be from a puppy mill, but it's also not from a reputable breeder either. A reputable breeder would never send their pups to a petstore where anyone with the money could buy them, and later dump them once they got to be too much trouble (not talking about anyone on here, just people in general). And "Shi-poos" are mutts, or crossbreeds, or mixed breeds, whatever you want to call them, they're NOT a breed. Nor will they ever BE a breed until breeders stop breeding F1 Poo x shih-tzu pups. You don't have a breed until your dogs are breeding true (exhibiting a "uniformity" in temperment/physical characteristics between members of the same "breed), and have been for several generations. So far all the "poo" breeders are doing is pumping out lots of little mixes and selling them off to anyone who wants one and can handle the price tag. IP: Logged |
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rmcleod unregistered |
posted 03-14-2003 01:14 PM
I am looking for a black female shih poo puppy. My grandmother, who is 90, has had one for the past 9 years. The shih poo was just diagnosed with kidney cancer and given only 6 months to live. Of course, grandmother is not wanting a new pup and that is not my intention. I have been trying to locate a breeder for this mix for quite sometime for myself as they are wonderful dogs. Very smart, loyal and easy to care for. I do agree with some of the responses listed with regards to cost. I am not interested in paying anywhere near $600. I have given some thought to starting my own mix and may still do that, but I am very interested in connecting with other breeders of shih poos. IP: Logged |
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Hiiaka New Member  Posts: 3 |
posted 03-17-2003 07:25 PM
What do these dogs look like? Can some one please send me some pictures of these dogs? hiiaka06@yahoo.com Aloha IP: Logged |
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KathySobers New Member Posts: 1 |
posted 03-20-2003 08:03 AM
I have a 1 year old shih poo male who was purchased for me from a pet store @ $600.00 and he was worth every penny. He was given to me during my breast cancer chemo and is to me an angel from heaven. He is the most wonderful dog and I would recommend this cross breed to anyone. There personality is wonderful and they are very easy to train. We had him house-broken in 2 wks. He is a great companion and once again I recommend this cross breed to anyone. IP: Logged |
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nanahjo New Member Posts: 3 |
posted 05-25-2003 04:16 PM
Hi, I have a black female schi-poo baby. She is 4 weeks old. Still interested? nanahjo@wmconnect.com [This message has been edited by nanahjo (edited 06-15-2003).] IP: Logged |
iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 05-25-2003 04:45 PM
why is it that eveytime someone mentions how much they paid for their mixed breed dog the 2 same people have to say you got ripped off or no reputable breeder would breed a mix!the thing is shih poo's are good dogs regardless of who bred them or how much was paid for them. all that matters is that the owner cares for the dog. mixed or not! a dog does not have to be pure bred to be a good dog.the way i see it is if you know what your getting and you want to pay that price it's up to you!and no matter how much you tell them they got ripped off they're still gonna pay that price because shih poo's are great and they know it.that's why they have such a big price tag.i knew my dog was mixed when i paid $400 for him is he not worth it because he's mixed?yes he was worth it!and weren't all dogs mixed in some way to make the pure breeds?yes they were!untill you own one of your own and see how loving they are please don't bash others for paying the price they want to pay for their dogs every one says to go to the pound to get a dog but when they mention they got a mix are you gonna bash them too for paying the $75 fee for a mix? IP: Logged |
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jam500 Member Posts: 62 |
posted 06-04-2003 07:48 PM
I've couldn't of said it better! IP: Logged |
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PEGGY New Member Posts: 5 |
posted 06-04-2003 09:01 PM
Are shih-poos hyper? Do they bark lots or is that more in the way you train them versus the breed? Does anyone that has one know? Thanks in advance!  IP: Logged |
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Joee Member Posts: 22 |
posted 06-05-2003 02:51 PM
Luvmypup-Wow, thanks for that response! I was the one of the other ones who posted a reply a while ago and started a holy war because I paid an outrageous amount for my pekapoo and as you mentioned, the same ones always seem to come back and repeat over and over the same ol' thing. Like TUPPY, I was also bashed for purchasing him from the pet store. Yikes! don't want to stir that pot again, I agree with Jam500. IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-05-2003 03:07 PM
I am not trying to pick sides here nor am I trying to start anything. The reason people flip out about buying dogs from petstores is because the dogs that are in petstores for the most part are puppy mill puppies. And as far as spending $600 on a mix I wouldnt spend $600 on a purebreed. I have a 14 year old mix and I also have 2 purebred rottweilers. All are rescues. My mix we got from a shelter as a pup. My 2 year old rotty I got from the pound and my 3 year old rotty I rescued less than 2 months ago. that is probably why people have a tendency to flip out about spending that much on a dog. I see so many poodle mixes at the pound along with many other dogs that need homes. Just my thoughts please dont think I am being rude or trying to start anything but those are the facts. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-05-2003 03:48 PM
yes i agree there are animals in need of a home at the pound and if i could i would take them all in but i can't do that.and i also agree that when you buy from a pet shop that you take a chance on getting a puppy mill pup but don't you take that chance wherever you go? and aren't the pups at the pet shop are in need of a home just as much as the pups at the pound? IP: Logged |
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puttin510 Member Posts: 616 |
posted 06-05-2003 05:45 PM
Hiiaka, I know a gal that showed her shi-poo on another forum. What she looks like: generally with it being a mix it can take on either the mom or dads appearance. The face can look shorter like a shi or longer like a poo. Have bigger eyes like the shi or smaller like the poo. Hers has a more shitzu look over all. Even the hair. Short face and big round eyes. But like I said it depends on which genes are more dominate. Very cute dogs though. I have always like both breeds. Just be prepared for alot of grooming IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-05-2003 10:47 PM
About pet shop dogs the answer to your question is no. In my area petstores no longer sell dogs. Many people boycotted the sale of dogs in petstores around here so you no longer see dogs in tiny kennels and has decreased the number of puppy mills in the area. There is only one petstore in the area that sells dogs. They come from different breeders, have 3 year health guarantees for hereditary dieseases, the petstore offers a 50% discount for all vet expenses if you use the vet they go to, and most of the dogs are brought in per request by customers and I have never seen a dog there for longer than a week. So no I dont feel that petstore dogs need homes as much if people stopped buying them petstores would no longer go through puppy mills or would not sell the dogs.And the price for them is outrageous in the first place. So people can make a difference if you came here 5 years ago every petstore around here sold dogs. Today there is only 1 within an hour drive. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-05-2003 11:42 PM
ok here's a question we're trying to avoid the puppy mill dogs from the pet stores so we shouldn't buy from the pet store right?now suppose we do stop buying from the pet stores.where do the puppy's in the pet shop end up when the store closes?the pound! which is exactly where your telling us to go.SOOO either way were getting a puppy that came from a pet shop.most pets that you find at the pound were most likely bought from a pet shop before they ended up in the pound.so the way i see it is if you know the dogs history (which the pound cannot usually give)then it's ok to buy from a pet shop. i bought mine from a pet shop and i have his family history, i have the name AND the phone number of the breeders who bred him so does that make him a puppy mill dog? and like i've said before it's not the price that matters it's the joy of having a loving pet to share your time with.no matter what the breed, no matter what the size no matter what the age,and no matter what the price.AND MOST OF ALL NO MATTER WHERE HE CAME FROM. IP: Logged |
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Jas Moderator Posts: 163 |
posted 06-06-2003 12:54 PM
pet stores don't close down when people no longer support them for selling puppies, they just need to stop selling animals. in order to stop selling animals the demand needs to cease so they stop acquiring them. Rarely do many pet stores sell only animals, most sell food, leashes, toys, treats and all that--- still a huge profitable industry. Wrong. most dogs in the pound are not from pet stores but the results of a so called breeder's indiscriminte breeding, or owners who no longer wanted their pet for one reason or another, found strays, and possibly pet stores. The point is NOT to support pet stores selling animals period. If one manages to get a healthy petstore dog and knows the history, breeder & that the breeder was not a puppy mill then consider that luck -- because it is rare, and even rarer is that dog is who he is supposed to be - many falsify paperwork so there is no way to to tell upon purchase if the pedigree is legit. ILUV said "i bought mine from a pet shop and i have his family history, i have the name AND the phone number of the breeders who bred him so does that make him a puppy mill dog?" To answer: yes, possibly. a contact number (if it is even real) doesn't state anything about the breeders. Have you spoken with the breeder of your dog? Have you seen their facilities? do you know what their breeding practices are? do you know if they are ethical breeders? Lastly why is a breeder incapable of selling their own dogs, why need a PS? SOunds fishy. Even if by some luck your dog came from a decent breeder, you are pedistooling ALL pet stores by your "success" story yet fail to see the damage caused when the next person reads how wonderful a pet store is and goes out to purchase a dog without knowing the background--and they might not be so lucky. i believe all dogs are great & deserving that is not the point. the joy of having a pet is one thing but is it joyous for someone to own a pet plagued with health problems? whose siblings are born deformed and need to be slaughtered because they dont look right & wont "sell"? whose parents live in disgusting conditions? i would feel incredibly guilty purchasing a dog knowing that my dogs family lives like this or that I supported a PS knowing most PS dogs come from this. I guess its easy for those without a conscience to say NIMBY (not in my back yard-no pun intended), didnt happen to me and Look the other way! [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 06-06-2003).] IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-06-2003 02:55 PM
Thanks Jas I couldnt have said it much better myself. Pet stores that sell dogs dont go out of business they just stop selling puppies and all they do is just dont order any more in. They usually sell the last of their puppies. The stores that used to sell puppies are still here they just dont sell dogs and cats anymore. I wish people would stop being so ignorant about pet store puppies. They come from puppy mills which is the worst place any dog could live and they need to be stopped but with peopl continuing to buy from them they wont. I have no issues with mixed breeds of purebreds I have both. However if you get a dog I feel you should be getting it from 2 people either a responsible breeder not a back yard breeder or a rescue/pound. Puppy mills need to be stopped and people dont realize the affect of buying dogs from petstores. You can make a difference by not buying dogs from petstores we did it here and you dont see dogs around here in petstores. So you can make a difference but people need to wake up and realize there is a problem first. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-06-2003 03:24 PM
first of all rotty mommy you need to take a look at your self before you call someone ignorant, and second of all i never said i supported puppy mills.what your saying is all dogs from a pet shop came from a puppy mill well that's not true! yes some have i will agree there. but you cannot say they all do.and jas yes i do know the people that bred my pup and yes the phone# is theirs. i have met them and they are good breeders just because they breed full bred and mixed does not make them bad people because of the fact that every bredder has cross bred at some point.the point i was trying to make in the first post was that i'm just tired of people coming here to get help from others just to be put down for how much they spent on their mixed breed it's nobody's buisness to run their mouth about someone else's dog!nobody seems to get that around here!I'LL SAY IT AGAIN NOBODY COMES HERE TO BE PUT DOWN FOR HOW MUCH THEY PAID OR FOR WHAT BREED THEIR DOG IS!!do you get it yet ?we've established the fact that every time someone says they paid x amount for their shipoo you get pi$$ed off and run you mouth about this breeder and that breeder if you don't like it then do something about it because picking on the poor people that come here for help isn't gonna do anything but run them off and make yourself look( as you would say) IGNORANT !!and tuppy if you haven't left yet congrats on your shih poo IP: Logged |
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puttin510 Member Posts: 616 |
posted 06-06-2003 05:22 PM
Actually the pet supply place I get my dogs food from, they rescue and adopt out cats, dogs and some birds. They sometimes have puppies but all have been rescued from shelters and some pups from the trash. I think they are wonderful for doing this. Some of (their) cats that are there are free to roam the store, are also cats that were in need of a home and now get lots of attention from customers. IP: Logged |
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danelover Member Posts: 29 |
posted 06-06-2003 07:19 PM
http://www.columbusdogconnection.com/MorrowCountyPuppyMill.htm Here is the type of place pups in pet stores come from,,,beautiful isn't it??? IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-06-2003 09:45 PM
to iluvmypup first off I did not mean to say that you were ignorant I meant more society in general there are alot of people out there that dont know where petstore pups come from. Secondly, I did not come here to put anyone down I was not rude in any way just stated some facts. You are the one that is taking things to far. I never said that all petstore pups come from puppy mills but most do. I did not say that noone should get a dog from a petstore necessarily but they need to do their research on the store and their dogs first. Just like you would do for any breeder. I am not here to judge people in any way. I cannot control what other people choose to do nor do I judge them for it. I only educate. And I dont see what the harm in doing that is. people need to be aware of what goes on in most petstores not all but most. Many people are not aware of it. I have never came on this forum unlike some others here to put people down or to get on peoples backs. I just inform them. As I said in an earlier post there is one store here that sells dogs but they are legit and do it responsibly. So I agree there are some out there like that but they are few and far between and I have never seen a chain store that is like that especially. The chain stores around here now have rescue dogs and cats that come in every weekend and I think that is great and is how it should be. But you dont have to beat down on those that are only trying to educate I was never rude and if you took offense to anything I said I am sorry it was not my intention but every post you have written you have jumped down our throats yet you say I am the one doing it and I have not. The purpose of this forum is to educate and I have never said there is anything wrong with mixed breed dogs. They are just as loving and personable as any fullbreed. But I think people have to be extra cautious about getting a mix from a breeder as there are alot of breeders out there who just dont care about their dogs. Not to say there arent ones that do because there are but there are less of them. Just my thoughts but again I am not being rude just voicing some facts and opinions I hope you can realize that and not jump down my throat please! IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 12:02 AM
i'm not jumping down anybody's throat i'm trying to defend the poor people that come here to get help. only get put down for spending their money on their dog and i've said i don't support puppy mills but everyone acts like i do and every post i've put here is not to attack someone it just seems that every time someone mentions the name shihpoo and how much they spent.someone says the same thing they said in the last post that was made about shihpoo's i have a shih poo myself and he's like one of my children and when you put down shihpoo's or where i got him it's upseting (in other words your putting my dog down)so all i'm trying to say is please stop putting people down for how much they paid or where they got their dog because putting people down here isn't going to make the world a better place it's just gonna make others feel bad about the puppy they bought.and could make many of these dogs unwanted which in turn could put these poor animals in the pound and i'm sure you don't realize it but that could happen IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 01:01 AM
This is the spouse of... I can't understand why you are all fighting over what breed of dog has value over another ,I Think it's up to the owner on choice . Further more it seem like certain people dislike poo dogs only because they can't afford them.lol,I also believe pittbull dogs are very vicious and if they are trained to attack the owner should get life for it.If you think you know where every dog comes from (thats twisted) grow up , get a life and stop attempting to know it all! If you think that getting a dog from the shelter makes you a solution to the problem your sadly mistaken,even pet shop dogs need a home. pure breed dogs are no better than a poo , they are all dogs so get off your high horse and understand i paid the same money for our poo as you did for your so called pure breed and its much better looking and very well behaved!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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Jas Moderator Posts: 163 |
posted 06-07-2003 02:35 AM
Rotty, Danelover, Goob, Puttin, Pit-BullPrin, & others I may have forgotten, Keep educating it does help and ignore those who are too ignorant to see past their own posts as they are too busy trolling & name calling to understand everythings not solely about them -- usually this happens when they dont hear what they want to hear. Suffice to say some people just never get it! Usually because they do not spend the time reading other posts properly, instead they act irrational and respond so. Its funny how they manage to twist things about and make accusations about us when really they are the accusers! I have only seen tactful, informative & helpful posts from the above people. These people should be thanked for their time and effort (Thanks People do post here for help and help is alway offered. Rarely does a question go unanswered. The moderators do a good job watching these forums so if there we're personal put downs and attacks you can be assured those posts are edited or removed! Thanks again to all who make the dog world a better place! p.s. GREAT post earlier Rotty. Well put!!! [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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ilovemypets Moderator Posts: 364 |
posted 06-07-2003 09:50 AM
To Ilovemypup, I think your stating things quite well! Who cares how much we pay for the kind of dogs everyone gets?! Its our money and decision. And if the "bashers" would stop and reason alittle there wouldn't be a problem. Your doing great! I'm not saying I (myself) would pay that much for one, but I'm certainly not going to get into money business of someone else. Let the people B! [This message has been edited by ilovemypets (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-07-2003 11:35 AM
I am not the basher if anyone would be I would have to say Ilovmypup's spouse was the rudest. Not trying to be mean but it was. I have never put people down for how much they spend on a dog. And for Iluvmypup's spouse. If you read my earlier posts you spent more on your mix than I did my purebreeds. But I also do have a mix so dont think I have issues with them cuz I dont. I never put poo mixes down. I personally would not have one nor am I in favor of them being bred but apparently there are alot of people out there that do like them. I have 2 rottweilers but I dont expect everyone to like them. And to iluvmypup's spouse I dont have pitbulls but I do have rotties who have the same bad rap as pitbulls. There are no bad dogs just bad owners and there are alot more dog bites from smaller dogs than there are large dogs its just larger dogs have a bigger bite. My rotties yes they were both rescues and they are the biggest babies you would ever meet. They are 100 pound lap dogs. Sad but true. And as I write I am trying to get my one to go out to the bathroom. She keeps whining cuz she has to go but wont go out cuz it is pouring rain outside. So they really are huge babies. And most of them are. I never said that purebreeds are better than mixes so I dont know where you got that from. I have a mix and love her to death. I never put myself on a high horse. Never stated that fullbreeds are better than mixe. But for the record, you did pay more than myfullbred rotties but they are rescue dogs. But I dont down you for that it is your choice. And I never stated that I know where every dog came from. I dont know the story of my mix and my one rotty. I dont know where they came from. All I said and I will say it again. Is be aware that many petstore dogs come from puppy mills, do your research on the breed or mix and do your research on the store, breeder, or even rescuer you are getting your dog from. Knowledge is the key to any dog being healthy and happy. Puppy mills and breeders that are just in it for the money need to be stopped. There are many dogs out there with health problems that could have been avoided if they were bred responsibly. I am not the one on the high horse. I have never been rude nor judgemental. If other people have take it up with them. I am only here to inform as that is what everybody who loves their breed, mix and just flat out furkid should do. They should be well informed but most important they should love as I am sure everyone on this forum does. But dont take offense to what I have written as I have not been rude or put anyone down just educating and even if you continue to think I am trying to bash you which I am not there are others out there that I am sure will learn as I see it happen everyday. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 02:16 PM
danelover:You paid 600.00 for a mixed dog? (then comes pitbull princess to kiss up) DANELOVER, I will have to agree with you thereI am sorry,but there is no way I would pay $600 for a mix..I am not saying mixes are bad,but come on..I feel if it is not pure bred then it needs to be free.I think the lady that payed $600 got ripped off.its not even a purebreed. (now it's goobs turn in the battle of the butt kissing) Shi-poos" are mutts, or crossbreeds, or mixed breeds, whatever you want to call them, they're NOT a breed. (i said) aren't the pups at the pet shop are in need of a home just as much as the pups at the pound? (and rottymommy says) About pet shop dogs the answer to your question is no. I never said that all petstore pups come from puppy mills but most do. I did not say that noone should get a dog from a petstore. (rottymommy again) I wish people would stop being so ignorant about pet store puppies. They come from puppy mills . (yet again another butt kiss) jas said: Keep educating it does help and ignore those who are too ignorant to see past their own posts as they are too busy trolling & name calling to understand everythings not solely about them -- usually this happens when they dont hear what they want to hear. Suffice to say some people just never get it! Usually because they do not spend the time reading other posts properly, instead they act irrational and respond so. Its funny how they manage to twist things about and make accusations about us when really they are the accusers! I have only seen tactful, informative & helpful posts from the above people. These people should be thanked for their time and effort (Thanks ) if it weren't for people like yourselves then many people would still be uninformed. NO one, I repeat NO one has put down anyone else's pet. If certain people feel bad about where they have gotten their dog from, then it is something to learn from for next time -- there are legitimate reasons so many people like the above are saying what we do---we're not concocting lies out of thin air---honestly! More people walk away learning something than not and that is what's important.p.s. GREAT post earlier Rotty. Well put!!! hey jas who were you talking to really?lol (let's hop on the high horse shall we?) rottymommy: rottymommy: (you are one very confused woman.please make up your mind) [This message has been edited by iluvmypup (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Jas Moderator Posts: 163 |
posted 06-07-2003 02:35 PM
excuse me iluv??? Grow up. enough is enough, you have been nothing but rude and insultive to anyone who does not share your view. Well too bad get over yourself. in all the quotes you've taken I have yet to read anything offending or rude, simply opposing opinions to yours and guess what that is allowed!!!! your posts on the other hand are not only incorrect but slanderous and extremely rude. do you take pleasure into getting people worked up? its evident you are nothing more than a troll just trying to cause trouble. [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-07-2003 02:41 PM
Ok so maybe I get a little heated up at times and say thing that get misinterpreted. Bottomline - here it goes There are many people out there that dont know that MOST petstores get there dogs from puppy mills. It is fine if you get your dogs from a petstore taht sells dogs responsibly otherwise no I dont think you shoud buy from a petstore. IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-07-2003 02:42 PM
Oh and by the way I dont buttkiss either I just wanted people to calm down and not get all defensive atleast not when someone else isnt trying to make anyone angry or not trying to offend anyone. IP: Logged |
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ilovemypets Moderator Posts: 364 |
posted 06-07-2003 02:56 PM
I don't think rottymommmy was trying to "attack" or "offend" I also think that iluvmypup's posts are reasonable and I don't blame her for taking up for herself and her dogs. There ARE bashers not "rottymommy" but others that need to control what they type, because it is obviously just to get things started. I think there is alot of "misunderstanding" because you really don't know the tone of the voice when they(people) type things, and thats how things get started. Thats what I gots to say.  IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 03:52 PM
i'm sure that if everyone can keep the remarks (which i put in my last post) to themselves we could all get along i understand what your saying about puppy mills rottymommy and i do agree that they need to be shut down.but the fact of the matter is people buy from pet shops .and i'm not telling them it's ok to do that.i'm just stating the fact that shihpoo's and their price tag allways gets attacked here. yeah $600 is alot for a mixed breed but people are willing to spend that amount because shihpoo's are good dogs all the things you have heard from shihpoo owners are true.i allways thought there's no such thing as a non shedding dog untill i got mine.i've had many dogs (and yes all the others came from the shelter)but he's the best one yet.i never knew dogs could be so loving.and like my spouse said very well behaved.i also agree that breeders should not mix because their are enough animals in this world that don't have a home.(if you ask me breeders shouldn't breed at all untill every dog has a home)but the thing is argueing that issue here isn't gonna change that.just like argueing about puppy mills and pet shops here isn't gonna change that either.i think we all (including myself)need to stop attacking eachother and give help to the people that come here for it regardless of how much thay spent on their dog or regardless of the breed. i have many opinions about other breeds but i'm not gonna come on here and say you spent that much on that kind of dog?and no jas i don't enjoy fighting with others.but i also don't like seeing every person here that paid x amount for a shihpoo being offended by someone asking why they paid that much and that they got ripped off.that's some people's opinion yes but some things are better left unsaid.what kind of dog do you have?would you like it if someone asked you why you paid x amount for that dog?would you like to be told your dog wasn't worth spending that much on?you would be offended right?in my opinion every pet should have a low price tag that way more animals would have a home.but there's nothing i can do to change that .and like i said breeders should not mix but they do.and if they had not i wouldn't have my little angel.and i wouldn't trade him for anything.i'm not saying shihpoo's are the greatest dogs in the world but their not the worst either.and it's not the shihpoo's fault that they are here it's on the breeders who bred them.so why don't we not put down the price tag.instead put down the breeders that mix. but not when some innocent person comes here for advice.if you feel so strongly about byb or pet shops why not make a separate post about it instead of waiting untill someone says they spent $600 on their shihpoo.that way you can say whatever you like about it and nobody will feel that it directed towards their dog.you have a right to your own opinions as does everyone else here but some things are said at the wrong times and seem offensive to others. IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 343 |
posted 06-07-2003 04:37 PM
Iluvmypup I think we just found a mutual ground.LOL Totally agree with your post however I would appreciate it if your spouse deleted his post about pitbulls. I did take offense to it and just a forewarning it could lead to a war in here if some others saw it. I told you my opinion on it and that is all I have to say on it but it was offensive and I just wanted to warn you. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 04:45 PM
tx for the warning. my spouse was only stating an opinion like others have before (i'm not trying to offend) [This message has been edited by iluvmypup (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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jjami57690 Moderator Posts: 101 |
posted 06-07-2003 05:01 PM
its amazing that this very same argument goes on so frequently on this message board. often its not even the mention of the price that starts it, it can be a simple post on someone looking for a poo cross mix or asking about their personality, etc. and if they unwittingly refer to them as a "breed" then its an all out war. you know its true, anyone that has been monitoring this board for any length of time has seen it 100 times. i'm happy to see so many poo cross lovers out there and see them sticking up for their choice of pets. the puppymill/puppy store issue has been beat to death. we all agree that we don't like them. but because these little dogs are difficult to find and highly sought after thats what drives up the price and unfortunately keeps them going. i don't know the answer guys. but i do know that i don't regret one bit the price i paid for my malti-poo. she had a sister and if i'd had the money i'd have taken them both. and i don't see the need for a certain group of people to come in on a post about poo crosses on the pretext of "education". they claim to not be putting someone down for owning one yet the post is so severe that it certainly feels as if they are putting them down. ask me, i've been there. the administrator added a seperate message board for pitbulls. maybe we can put forth a request for a seperate board for poo crosses or maybe just small dogs in general to be added. that way the people that own them and love them won't be subject to the unasked for opinions of those that don't own them or love them and then those people won't be offended about where they got their pet or how much was paid. i think that would be fair. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 05:05 PM
i think that's a wonderfull idea IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 05:17 PM
i have sent a request to auspet tx for the great idea i am also going to make a separate post for all poo owners to request the same. IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 186 |
posted 06-07-2003 07:58 PM
Sheesh, agree with people on one thing (and this is about the only thing I agree with a lot of people about on this board), and I'm engaged in "the battle of the butt kissing". Not to get off-topic, but first... quote: Well, spouse of's got part of it right (people who train dogs to attack SHOULD be in prison)... but the BYB who gave the owner the dog should be in the cell with them Of course, in his/her media induced paranoia, they've also misspelled the name of the breed they're trying to insult.... doesn't exactly come off as knowledgeable.
quote: Not sure where you get the idea that everyone who disagrees with you owns purebred dogs, or that they've paid a lot of money for them, but you're wrong.
quote: Sure, but those dogs were mixed to meet a need, to fullfill a purpose... the only purpose breeders have for breeding high priced "designer breeds" is to line their pockets a little thicker.
quote: If people will dump their dogs off at the shelter just because they didn't like a few comments on an internet message board, then maybe they shouldn't have gotten the dog in the first place. And if it made them "unwanted" as in less people buying them... leading to less people breeding them and less being dumped off at shelters, then all the better. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-07-2003 08:13 PM
so we must continue this... i'll tell you what goober lol you did a wonderfull job of kissin all the butt you can but i think you might just be able to do a little better than that SO LET'S HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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Jas Moderator Posts: 163 |
posted 06-08-2003 12:46 PM
See Goob, just as I stated a troll! Someone with nothing better to do with ALL their free time than cause trouble. anyone seriously considering buying a dog from an unreputable breeder or pet store can read this topic and come away with 2 things: 1)Reasonable valid points with meaningful responses from caring dog fanciers who have taken the time to explain well known issues. 2)Immature gibberish with rude and uneducated replies showing a lack of respect because they obviously haven't bothered properly reading what they are responding to, therefore have no valid points in return so instead completely disregard anything said. A continuance of further snide comments or harping on one point instead of looking at the big picture and citing valid reasoning or stating why they feel the other is inaccurate - then resort to name calling! goes to show they blurt things out in defense of their own personal choice/mistakes and try to justify their errors rather than making an educated response. irrational responses only make one look uninformed in front of future viewers! IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 330 |
posted 06-08-2003 12:53 PM
i'm not going to bother to read the above post because i'm sure it's just more insults directed towards me all because i felt i was defending my dog which i love very much.i apologise to anyone who feels that i have insulted them and i've decided that maybe i shouldn't come here anymore. sorry all IP: Logged |
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) if it weren't for people like yourselves then many people would still be uninformed. NO one, I repeat NO one has put down anyone else's pet. If certain people feel bad about where they have gotten their dog from, then it is something to learn from for next time -- there are legitimate reasons so many people like the above are saying what we do---we're not concocting lies out of thin air---honestly! More people walk away learning something than not and that is what's important.