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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 277 |
posted 06-05-2003 03:48 PM
 
yes i agree there are animals in need of a home at the pound and if i could i would take them all in but i can't do that.and i also agree that when you buy from a pet shop that you take a chance on getting a puppy mill pup but don't you take that chance wherever you go? and aren't the pups at the pet shop are in need of a home just as much as the pups at the pound? IP: Logged |
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puttin510 Member  Posts: 332 |
posted 06-05-2003 05:45 PM
Hiiaka, I know a gal that showed her shi-poo on another forum. What she looks like: generally with it being a mix it can take on either the mom or dads appearance. The face can look shorter like a shi or longer like a poo. Have bigger eyes like the shi or smaller like the poo. Hers has a more shitzu look over all. Even the hair. Short face and big round eyes. But like I said it depends on which genes are more dominate. Very cute dogs though. I have always like both breeds. Just be prepared for alot of grooming IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 313 |
posted 06-05-2003 10:47 PM
About pet shop dogs the answer to your question is no. In my area petstores no longer sell dogs. Many people boycotted the sale of dogs in petstores around here so you no longer see dogs in tiny kennels and has decreased the number of puppy mills in the area. There is only one petstore in the area that sells dogs. They come from different breeders, have 3 year health guarantees for hereditary dieseases, the petstore offers a 50% discount for all vet expenses if you use the vet they go to, and most of the dogs are brought in per request by customers and I have never seen a dog there for longer than a week. So no I dont feel that petstore dogs need homes as much if people stopped buying them petstores would no longer go through puppy mills or would not sell the dogs.And the price for them is outrageous in the first place. So people can make a difference if you came here 5 years ago every petstore around here sold dogs. Today there is only 1 within an hour drive. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 277 |
posted 06-05-2003 11:42 PM
ok here's a question we're trying to avoid the puppy mill dogs from the pet stores so we shouldn't buy from the pet store right?now suppose we do stop buying from the pet stores.where do the puppy's in the pet shop end up when the store closes?the pound! which is exactly where your telling us to go.SOOO either way were getting a puppy that came from a pet shop.most pets that you find at the pound were most likely bought from a pet shop before they ended up in the pound.so the way i see it is if you know the dogs history (which the pound cannot usually give)then it's ok to buy from a pet shop. i bought mine from a pet shop and i have his family history, i have the name AND the phone number of the breeders who bred him so does that make him a puppy mill dog? and like i've said before it's not the price that matters it's the joy of having a loving pet to share your time with.no matter what the breed, no matter what the size no matter what the age,and no matter what the price.AND MOST OF ALL NO MATTER WHERE HE CAME FROM. IP: Logged |
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Jas Moderator Posts: 108 |
posted 06-06-2003 12:54 PM
pet stores don't close down when people no longer support them for selling puppies, they just need to stop selling animals. in order to stop selling animals the demand needs to cease so they stop acquiring them. Rarely do many pet stores sell only animals, most sell food, leashes, toys, treats and all that--- still a huge profitable industry. Wrong. most dogs in the pound are not from pet stores but the results of a so called breeder's indiscriminte breeding, or owners who no longer wanted their pet for one reason or another, found strays, and possibly pet stores. The point is NOT to support pet stores selling animals period. If one manages to get a healthy petstore dog and knows the history, breeder & that the breeder was not a puppy mill then consider that luck -- because it is rare, and even rarer is that dog is who he is supposed to be - many falsify paperwork so there is no way to to tell upon purchase if the pedigree is legit. ILUV said "i bought mine from a pet shop and i have his family history, i have the name AND the phone number of the breeders who bred him so does that make him a puppy mill dog?" To answer: yes, possibly. a contact number (if it is even real) doesn't state anything about the breeders. Have you spoken with the breeder of your dog? Have you seen their facilities? do you know what their breeding practices are? do you know if they are ethical breeders? Lastly why is a breeder incapable of selling their own dogs, why need a PS? SOunds fishy. Even if by some luck your dog came from a decent breeder, you are pedistooling ALL pet stores by your "success" story yet fail to see the damage caused when the next person reads how wonderful a pet store is and goes out to purchase a dog without knowing the background--and they might not be so lucky. i believe all dogs are great & deserving that is not the point. the joy of having a pet is one thing but is it joyous for someone to own a pet plagued with health problems? whose siblings are born deformed and need to be slaughtered because they dont look right & wont "sell"? whose parents live in disgusting conditions? i would feel incredibly guilty purchasing a dog knowing that my dogs family lives like this or that I supported a PS knowing most PS dogs come from this. I guess its easy for those without a conscience to say NIMBY (not in my back yard-no pun intended), didnt happen to me and Look the other way! [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 06-06-2003).] IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 313 |
posted 06-06-2003 02:55 PM
Thanks Jas I couldnt have said it much better myself. Pet stores that sell dogs dont go out of business they just stop selling puppies and all they do is just dont order any more in. They usually sell the last of their puppies. The stores that used to sell puppies are still here they just dont sell dogs and cats anymore. I wish people would stop being so ignorant about pet store puppies. They come from puppy mills which is the worst place any dog could live and they need to be stopped but with peopl continuing to buy from them they wont. I have no issues with mixed breeds of purebreds I have both. However if you get a dog I feel you should be getting it from 2 people either a responsible breeder not a back yard breeder or a rescue/pound. Puppy mills need to be stopped and people dont realize the affect of buying dogs from petstores. You can make a difference by not buying dogs from petstores we did it here and you dont see dogs around here in petstores. So you can make a difference but people need to wake up and realize there is a problem first. IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 277 |
posted 06-06-2003 03:24 PM
first of all rotty mommy you need to take a look at your self before you call someone ignorant, and second of all i never said i supported puppy mills.what your saying is all dogs from a pet shop came from a puppy mill well that's not true! yes some have i will agree there. but you cannot say they all do.and jas yes i do know the people that bred my pup and yes the phone# is theirs. i have met them and they are good breeders just because they breed full bred and mixed does not make them bad people because of the fact that every bredder has cross bred at some point.the point i was trying to make in the first post was that i'm just tired of people coming here to get help from others just to be put down for how much they spent on their mixed breed it's nobody's buisness to run their mouth about someone else's dog!nobody seems to get that around here!I'LL SAY IT AGAIN NOBODY COMES HERE TO BE PUT DOWN FOR HOW MUCH THEY PAID OR FOR WHAT BREED THEIR DOG IS!!do you get it yet ?we've established the fact that every time someone says they paid x amount for their shipoo you get pi$$ed off and run you mouth about this breeder and that breeder if you don't like it then do something about it because picking on the poor people that come here for help isn't gonna do anything but run them off and make yourself look( as you would say) IGNORANT !!and tuppy if you haven't left yet congrats on your shih poo IP: Logged |
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puttin510 Member Posts: 332 |
posted 06-06-2003 05:22 PM
Actually the pet supply place I get my dogs food from, they rescue and adopt out cats, dogs and some birds. They sometimes have puppies but all have been rescued from shelters and some pups from the trash. I think they are wonderful for doing this. Some of (their) cats that are there are free to roam the store, are also cats that were in need of a home and now get lots of attention from customers. IP: Logged |
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danelover Member Posts: 26 |
posted 06-06-2003 07:19 PM
http://www.columbusdogconnection.com/MorrowCountyPuppyMill.htm Here is the type of place pups in pet stores come from,,,beautiful isn't it??? IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 313 |
posted 06-06-2003 09:45 PM
to iluvmypup first off I did not mean to say that you were ignorant I meant more society in general there are alot of people out there that dont know where petstore pups come from. Secondly, I did not come here to put anyone down I was not rude in any way just stated some facts. You are the one that is taking things to far. I never said that all petstore pups come from puppy mills but most do. I did not say that noone should get a dog from a petstore necessarily but they need to do their research on the store and their dogs first. Just like you would do for any breeder. I am not here to judge people in any way. I cannot control what other people choose to do nor do I judge them for it. I only educate. And I dont see what the harm in doing that is. people need to be aware of what goes on in most petstores not all but most. Many people are not aware of it. I have never came on this forum unlike some others here to put people down or to get on peoples backs. I just inform them. As I said in an earlier post there is one store here that sells dogs but they are legit and do it responsibly. So I agree there are some out there like that but they are few and far between and I have never seen a chain store that is like that especially. The chain stores around here now have rescue dogs and cats that come in every weekend and I think that is great and is how it should be. But you dont have to beat down on those that are only trying to educate I was never rude and if you took offense to anything I said I am sorry it was not my intention but every post you have written you have jumped down our throats yet you say I am the one doing it and I have not. The purpose of this forum is to educate and I have never said there is anything wrong with mixed breed dogs. They are just as loving and personable as any fullbreed. But I think people have to be extra cautious about getting a mix from a breeder as there are alot of breeders out there who just dont care about their dogs. Not to say there arent ones that do because there are but there are less of them. Just my thoughts but again I am not being rude just voicing some facts and opinions I hope you can realize that and not jump down my throat please! IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 277 |
posted 06-07-2003 12:02 AM
i'm not jumping down anybody's throat i'm trying to defend the poor people that come here to get help. only get put down for spending their money on their dog and i've said i don't support puppy mills but everyone acts like i do and every post i've put here is not to attack someone it just seems that every time someone mentions the name shihpoo and how much they spent.someone says the same thing they said in the last post that was made about shihpoo's i have a shih poo myself and he's like one of my children and when you put down shihpoo's or where i got him it's upseting (in other words your putting my dog down)so all i'm trying to say is please stop putting people down for how much they paid or where they got their dog because putting people down here isn't going to make the world a better place it's just gonna make others feel bad about the puppy they bought.and could make many of these dogs unwanted which in turn could put these poor animals in the pound and i'm sure you don't realize it but that could happen IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Moderator Posts: 277 |
posted 06-07-2003 01:01 AM
This is the spouse of... I can't understand why you are all fighting over what breed of dog has value over another ,I Think it's up to the owner on choice . Further more it seem like certain people dislike poo dogs only because they can't afford them.lol,I also believe pittbull dogs are very vicious and if they are trained to attack the owner should get life for it.If you think you know where every dog comes from (thats twisted) grow up , get a life and stop attempting to know it all! If you think that getting a dog from the shelter makes you a solution to the problem your sadly mistaken,even pet shop dogs need a home. pure breed dogs are no better than a poo , they are all dogs so get off your high horse and understand i paid the same money for our poo as you did for your so called pure breed and its much better looking and very well behaved!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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Jas Moderator Posts: 108 |
posted 06-07-2003 02:35 AM
Rotty, Danelover, Goob, Puttin, Pit-BullPrin, & others I may have forgotten, Keep educating it does help and ignore those who are too ignorant to see past their own posts as they are too busy trolling & name calling to understand everythings not solely about them -- usually this happens when they dont hear what they want to hear. Suffice to say some people just never get it! Usually because they do not spend the time reading other posts properly, instead they act irrational and respond so. Its funny how they manage to twist things about and make accusations about us when really they are the accusers! I have only seen tactful, informative & helpful posts from the above people. These people should be thanked for their time and effort (Thanks People do post here for help and help is alway offered. Rarely does a question go unanswered. The moderators do a good job watching these forums so if there we're personal put downs and attacks you can be assured those posts are edited or removed! Thanks again to all who make the dog world a better place! p.s. GREAT post earlier Rotty. Well put!!! [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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ilovemypets Moderator Posts: 269 |
posted 06-07-2003 09:50 AM
To Ilovemypup, I think your stating things quite well! Who cares how much we pay for the kind of dogs everyone gets?! Its our money and decision. And if the "bashers" would stop and reason alittle there wouldn't be a problem. Your doing great! I'm not saying I (myself) would pay that much for one, but I'm certainly not going to get into money business of someone else. Let the people B!  [This message has been edited by ilovemypets (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Moderator Posts: 313 |
posted 06-07-2003 11:35 AM
I am not the basher if anyone would be I would have to say Ilovmypup's spouse was the rudest. Not trying to be mean but it was. I have never put people down for how much they spend on a dog. And for Iluvmypup's spouse. If you read my earlier posts you spent more on your mix than I did my purebreeds. But I also do have a mix so dont think I have issues with them cuz I dont. I never put poo mixes down. I personally would not have one nor am I in favor of them being bred but apparently there are alot of people out there that do like them. I have 2 rottweilers but I dont expect everyone to like them. And to iluvmypup's spouse I dont have pitbulls but I do have rotties who have the same bad rap as pitbulls. There are no bad dogs just bad owners and there are alot more dog bites from smaller dogs than there are large dogs its just larger dogs have a bigger bite. My rotties yes they were both rescues and they are the biggest babies you would ever meet. They are 100 pound lap dogs. Sad but true. And as I write I am trying to get my one to go out to the bathroom. She keeps whining cuz she has to go but wont go out cuz it is pouring rain outside. So they really are huge babies. And most of them are. I never said that purebreeds are better than mixes so I dont know where you got that from. I have a mix and love her to death. I never put myself on a high horse. Never stated that fullbreeds are better than mixe. But for the record, you did pay more than myfullbred rotties but they are rescue dogs. But I dont down you for that it is your choice. And I never stated that I know where every dog came from. I dont know the story of my mix and my one rotty. I dont know where they came from. All I said and I will say it again. Is be aware that many petstore dogs come from puppy mills, do your research on the breed or mix and do your research on the store, breeder, or even rescuer you are getting your dog from. Knowledge is the key to any dog being healthy and happy. Puppy mills and breeders that are just in it for the money need to be stopped. There are many dogs out there with health problems that could have been avoided if they were bred responsibly. I am not the one on the high horse. I have never been rude nor judgemental. If other people have take it up with them. I am only here to inform as that is what everybody who loves their breed, mix and just flat out furkid should do. They should be well informed but most important they should love as I am sure everyone on this forum does. But dont take offense to what I have written as I have not been rude or put anyone down just educating and even if you continue to think I am trying to bash you which I am not there are others out there that I am sure will learn as I see it happen everyday. IP: Logged |
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) if it weren't for people like yourselves then many people would still be uninformed. NO one, I repeat NO one has put down anyone else's pet. If certain people feel bad about where they have gotten their dog from, then it is something to learn from for next time -- there are legitimate reasons so many people like the above are saying what we do---we're not concocting lies out of thin air---honestly! More people walk away learning something than not and that is what's important.