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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member  Posts: 315 |
posted 04-03-2003 04:28 PM
  
Let me tell you a little something something about my dogs.My male that is allergic to dirt is just fine and so is his offspring.They have all been tested and they do not have allergies. As for my x-ray...I do them for me...not for you or anyone else.I do them for my records and it makes me feel safer. I don't just do x-rays either.I have their hearts and lungs checked.Every 6 months they have blood work.All my females get paps done.Pit Bulls (making sure my grammer is correct)have high pain tolerance,I like to make sure my dogs are in the best health the could ever possible be in. If you don't like how I breed,then don't reply to my post.I am not asking anyone here to like or dislike it.I am not asking anyone here to buy a dog from me....If you just don't like me,well,you can kiss my a**. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 47 |
posted 04-03-2003 04:39 PM
This forum is so mean! I'm tired of peeples lectureing me on parvo, I just wanted help not lectures! And ppl stop fighting, and lay off pitbullprincess! IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 315 |
posted 04-03-2003 05:06 PM
You know,I have changed my mind.If you have a problem with me and me dogs...Please feel free to say it.Cause I am as game as my dogs.JUST BRING IT! IP: Logged |
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JP unregistered |
posted 04-03-2003 05:11 PM
Really, the spelling of Pit Bull catergorizes a pit bull with a cure/mutt???? So if someone spells pit wrong then their dogs are mutts? Come on, if such a petty thing is that important then that breed is in big trouble. I'll bet half the people you get your dogs from can't even spell their own names. Seems like your looking just to cause trouble for any other pit bull breeder. Tell me hmmm are you the same person who has a whole yard full of pit bulls,over 30 of them, that live outside and have multiple litters every year?? IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 315 |
posted 04-03-2003 05:44 PM
Well said JP and Maltese, This joker is just trying to rattle my chain,but you know what,he/she is not gonna like what they find on that other end...One pissed off Pitbull_Princess.All of my dogs stay in my house with me.That is one of the reasons I keep my kennel so small.Plus,it makes it easier to spend time and have one on one trainning time. IP: Logged |
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fluff unregistered |
posted 04-03-2003 07:43 PM
Sure there is nothing wrong with your white, because he only has allergies to dirt and you given him a shot each month to control the allergies. Thats like me saying there is nothing wrong with my epiletic chin cause I give him phenobarb so I will breed him any way because he is fine... Sorry...but to me a "general practice" vet's check ups are bogus. hearts should be done by a cardiologist, eyes by an opthomologist, hips should he read by an orthopedic specialist.... If your not doing those things then you not doing clearances... sorry... there is no way around it... If you don't want to do clearances, for what ever reason...fine... but don't pretend you do. IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 258 |
posted 04-03-2003 07:57 PM
Huge difference. Those two problems are COMPLETLEY different. You should not even be comparing the two. IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Member Posts: 88 |
posted 04-03-2003 07:59 PM
Do you people not read a word pitbull princess says and you do not need to go to a specific type of vet ie opthamologist, cardiologist etc. If they are done by a vet that knows what they are looking for than that is all you need. Especially when pit princesses vet specializes in her breed. As far as her baby white with the alergy that was not what she was saying at all. If you would have read you would have realized that none of the pups have any of these problems. Pitbull princess is a great breeder of Pit Bulls and a great asset to them. And for the record I am not usually in support of breeders but in pit princess's case I am behind her all the way. So stop bashing her and knock the immaturity off. It is getting really old atleast to me. Especially when people are criticizing her grammar come on get a life. If you do not know pit princess you can not say these things. So lay off her or if you do want to ask her questions why dont you all try doing it in a civilized mannar and stop bashing her thats something the 12 year olds on these forums do. IP: Logged |
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tybrax Member Posts: 42 |
posted 04-03-2003 08:04 PM
hmmmmmmmm! how petty and rude are you , to put someone down because of the way pitbull pit bull is spelt,very childish on your behalf.Princess is a great advocate for the pitbull [oops] pit bull.She has been a great mentor to all of us on the site, and we have learn;t alot from her. And guess what it wasn;t spelt wrong , it just wasn;t spaced. petty person. IP: Logged |
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Russ Member Posts: 118 |
posted 04-04-2003 03:35 AM
Lay off of princess [This message has been edited by Russ (edited 04-04-2003).] IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 46 |
posted 04-04-2003 12:13 PM
I honestly (and I'm not just picking a fight here) don't see much difference between breeding a dog with epilepsy (under control by meds) and breeding a dog with allergies (under control by meds). Both can make the dog miserable, both can be (and often are) genetic, and both can decrease the dog's quality of life to the point where it's kinder to have it PTS. Both are things that don't need to be passed on. Not all diseases/disorders are passed on in "simple" patterns... some skip generations, some may disappear for several generations, then resurface worse than ever before. The main point about the other tests is that there is a certain procedure that needs to be followed in order to obtain accurate results.... a procedure that only certain vets take the time to get certified in. These tests have been created by the best vets in the country as a way of identifying genetic diseases so they can be "weeded out". The tests given by "general care" vets (it doesn't matter how much of an expert they are on a certain breed) cannot even be compared to those given by the specialists. The reason I've helped to draw this out... I asked about specific tests, and instead of a straight answer, got several "excuses" and still no straight answer. Not that there's really a need for it now, I can draw my own conclusions from what I've read. IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 315 |
posted 04-04-2003 01:08 PM
Goob, You go right ahead and think what you want of me and my dogs...I really don't care.As for my vet,You do not know a dang thing about him or his qualifications,so do not judge.I have tried to be respectful to you and you wanna keep on me.You know what it takes more than a book to be smart.So go stick your nose back in a book.I have book smarts,but most of all I have street smart..So,I plan to go alot farther in life than you. So, if you are going to keep bashing me then I would wrather you not even reply to my posts.Thank You and have a nice day.... P.S. grow up! IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 46 |
posted 04-04-2003 01:38 PM
Well, given the fact that there are no certified PennHIP vets in your area, I think it's safe to assume that he doesn't do that. I have no idea whether he's certified in anything else, but doubt it since you seem to have no idea what anyone's talking about as far as genetic tests. I've also never said anything about your dogs. I have questioned your breeding ethics, but only after you wouldn't answer a simple question about your dogs and health tests. IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 315 |
posted 04-04-2003 02:31 PM
Goob, You have no idea about anything my vet is certified in.All my dogs are geneticly sound.I do not have to answer to you or to anyone else for that matter.As for my vet goes,He knows alot more than your brain could ever.You are right,I do not know everything about genetics,but that is why I have a vet. I have a lot of support from other people in this form and alot of support through out the USA on my dogs.You are a very little man with a bad attitude.You come here and preach to everyone about what they need to do and when they need to do it and how they need to do it.No one likes a know-it-all,and that is exactly what you are. IP: Logged |
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Fluff unregistered |
posted 04-04-2003 03:28 PM
HAHAHAHAHA You think there is nooo difference between a "good" vet and a specialist. I GUARANTEE you that the national breed clubs for MULTIPLE breeds will HIGHLY disagree. Why the heck do you think that breed clubs make it apart of their CODE OF ETHICS to use these specialists? Because they specialist KNOW what they are doing...that is their area. GDC, BVA, OFA, WDA all exist for a reason. Because general practice vets LACK the ability to interperate and the understanding of inherited orthopedic disease and CANNOT be relied on to read an x-ray with accuratecy. Heck even the "foundations" have at least THREE specialist look at the x-rays and give their opinion before they give a rating. As for their being no difference between epilepsy and allergies...I beg to differ. Many a dog are destroyed for BOTH. Ever seen a dog litterally tear off its skin from an allergy out break...it isn't a pretty sight! Allergies can be the catalyst for soooo many other problems, URI, Gastro intestinal, eye ulcers...its not just limited to itching. Do you even understand what allergies are? Its the inability of the autoimmune system to be able to tell the difference from the environment or even from self, and a pathogen. THE AUTOIMUNE SYSTEM people...that is a SERIOUS complication. We tend not to think of allergies as being a serious problem but they could be a signal to greater things dealing with the immune system. Personally I don't care what you breed... and I am not here to tell you what to breed....but like I said....You should walk the walk if your gonna talk the talk... IP: Logged |
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goob Member Posts: 46 |
posted 04-04-2003 03:29 PM
Of course.... how could I forget... I'm sure your dogs are known across the country for their gameness, conformation, great temperments, and soundness (they're so sound that you don't even need to test them to be sure, you just KNOW  ). They're probably the best kept secret in the world, which is why no one's ever heard of them until coming to this board. I asked you a question which you didn't want to (or didn't know how to) respond to, you got defensive and started making excuses as to why you couldn't give me a simple answer, and all of a sudden I'm "preaching" to everyone. Of course IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 258 |
posted 04-04-2003 03:31 PM
Goob, just to be clear I like the advise you give and find it very needed here. But something my mom told me a long time ago.... Assume = ASS U ME.....assumme is to make an ASS outta U and ME I lauph every time I hear that word and NEVER use it lol IP: Logged |
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Laduenda unregistered |
posted 04-04-2003 04:31 PM
Why would I bash her? Actually I am not . I am trying to see why she breeds,What are her goals in breeding,etc..I just cannot fathom the idea that someone would breed a dog with allergies. Why would you keep all of your dogs inside at the same time? I hope you don't have them all in the same room or you might come home to find a few less live dogs than you had when you left. IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 315 |
posted 04-04-2003 04:47 PM
All my dogs stay in the house.My dogs do not fight with each other.Yes,we have had small scuffles,but nothing I could not handle and no one got hurt. As for my dog having allergies,you guys are crazy...My dogs has minor allergies.I know exactly what it is and how to take care of it. You guys wanna keep bashing..go right ahead,but I have better thing to do.Like fight to save pits lives...Get a clue. IP: Logged |
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poofy/fluff unregistered |
posted 04-04-2003 09:31 PM
This conversation is not about keeping your dogs in the house, or keeping them in tune with each other...its about whether or not you practice what you preach. With your lack of information...I can only come to one conclusion. No. Look. I am sorry to be so harsh on this subject...but if you are going to put your self on a pedistal you need to have a reason to be there...If you choose not to do health testing, then fine, but don't pretend and try to convince others who are too ignorant to know better, that the vet can make those descisions. A breeder, with experience has a better chance at making that call then a vet. Thats where my problem lies with this whole deal...if you cannot meet the 'high standards' then don't expect other to meet them and don't try to talk your way out of not having any interest yourself in meeting them.
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 315 |
posted 04-04-2003 10:04 PM
This is it...I have told all of you that my dogs have a clean heath certificate..If you do not believe me than that is your problem not mine.I am far from stupid as you claim.I do have champ. dogs and I do show them.Your Opinion does not matter to me.Me and my partner know and so does everyone that buys from us.If you have never heard of T-Bone kennels then you do not know pitbulls (ooppss)Pit Bulls) like you say you do.Do not tell me what you think I do not know.... IP: Logged |
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jjami57690 Member Posts: 30 |
posted 04-04-2003 10:26 PM
this is unbelieveable! i left this board months ago because of the sniping, arguing, self-righteous know-it-alls that have nothing better to do with their lives than use this board as a means to gripe about back yard breeders and sing the praises of their own breeding of pit bulls. i came back to do a little research and there on the top of the board is a post i started, months ago, about poo cross lovers and i see 70 some posts! imagine my surprise when i see that the majority of the posts are from the same old people saying the same old things they were saying way back in november, and in the same nasty way!! and here i thought that pits had their own discussion board. guess theres just more opportunity to piss and moan over on this board. god, you gotta love it. and please, unless you just get off on posting a response to each and every post (and i KNOW that no one out there is like that), don't bother responding cause i won't be reading it. i've read it all before. you all just carry on.... IP: Logged |
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tybrax Member Posts: 42 |
posted 04-05-2003 05:07 AM
this is starting to be very pathetic, what business is it of anyone's where the pit bulls are keep , if she wonts to keep them in one room so be it.You's are questioning princess as a breeder, what for do you think you;s are one better? another question asked to princess is why do you breed? Why wouldn;t she don;t you [stupied question]princess is not an idiot, she knows what she is talking about, you;s are surpose to be breeders and we are surpose to stick together and save these breeds, and all you;s are doing is questioning and judging her ability as a breeder.About her vet , i am quite sure her vet has all her certificates,You's are sounding like detectives questioning her as if she is a criminal. As for goob , i respect you , i have learnt alot from you , but goob not everyone is a book of knowledge , on genetics dilute gene, merle, tri.Princess is an experienced owner and breeder of american pit bulls for years, princess recognises the positive outcome.And alot of people on this site believe in her.Nobody should be bashing anyone, or judging them, questioning their ability as a breeder and owner.What is it are we surpose to be put in categories,the high and mighty breeders, that know everything, and the lower level ,who only know half.l will stick to the lower level l am not high and mighty, and l am not a know all. Princess loved your post, 10 points for it. oh about your e-mail, from this parasite, frame it darl. its just another judgmental idiot, trying to be an know all , and condem the breed. By the way l see hmmmmmmm has know e-mail address , l wonder why? to scared.Princess when its all boiled down you don;t have to explain yourself to anyone .tybrax IP: Logged |
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fluff/poofy unregistered |
posted 04-05-2003 07:22 AM
You said: "I have told all of you that my dogs have a clean heath certificate.." If your dogs have been health certified from phenotypic genetic diseases you should have numbers stating those facts. All you need to do is post a few so that the info, which is PUBLIC RECORD, can be looked up. If your "clean health certificate" is that little piece of paper that comes from a vet stating the dog is well enough to travel......then thats worth about as much as the piece of paper its written on. I have seen pet store puppies with those health certificates...even the ones who die before they get to the shop. IP: Logged |
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Malteseof2003 Member Posts: 47 |
posted 04-05-2003 09:27 AM
HOW DID THIS MESSAGE GET FROM "CROSS BREEDS" TO IF PRINCESS IS A GOOD PIT BULL BREEDER OR NOT? STOP YOUR MEAN TONGUES EVERYONE! IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Member Posts: 88 |
posted 04-05-2003 10:31 AM
To fluff/poofy STOP all this sh*t is getting really old just stop bashing pitbull princess this whole thing needs deleted so you can all find something better to do I cant believe how childish alot of you are acting this is getting really old and it needs to stop so GROW UP. IP: Logged |
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fluff/poofy unregistered |
posted 04-05-2003 12:07 PM
I bet 90% of you would jump on the first person who was to post to this board about a litter of puppies they have for sale. Or how about some one studding out their dog. How many of you would give that person the 3rd degree about health clearances, responsible breeding what ever. Yet, its okay for one of you "own" not to have to meet those "community" standards. I am sorry if what I am saying p*sses you off. But you also know what I am saying is true. I hate it when folks have those double standards. The fact is if you (any one) doesn't have to meet that criteria, you should be ashamed to ask others to meet them as well. As I said before...this is not a personal agenda...I couldn't care less what a person breeds, thats their buisness, but what I do care about is the misrepresentation that way to many people put on. IP: Logged |
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Hmmmm unregistered |
posted 04-05-2003 01:38 PM
First off, yea, I do have a website. No, I will not post it as I have stated some things that could get me in a little trouble. T-Bone Kennels?? If you know APBTs you know it? Well, I have NEVER heard of your kennel. Neither has T. Smith (Hunter Red ROM) or D. Bopts (Ute-Colo Kennels) or Coy (Gr Ch Banjo). If these guys dont know bulldogs, no one does and they definately dont know you. You dont even have dogs listed on Pedigrees Online! PB Princess, you may have everyone here fooled but, me, I DO know pit bulls, I know several involved in APBTs (none of which have heard of your "kennel") and just from the other posts in which you have totally contradicted yourself, I know you are full of crap. IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Member Posts: 88 |
posted 04-05-2003 02:28 PM
Actually i did find a line of hers online so no she is not full of crap. And yes i would get on someones case somewhat for putting pups for sale on here. but pitbull princes doesnt do that nor is she a byb. All I am saying is you said your peace on whatever you think the case might be now just drop it. We are not helping anyone by sitting here bashing anyone i wouldnt even want you to do this to a real byb. It doesnt get anyone anywhere. That is what i meant when i told you to grow up. This is getting rediculous and by people bashing people on here i know of 4 people who you have scared off this forum who only came here for advice and had no interest in this topic. Just petowners who wanted some advice and becaues of alot of your immaturity levels they have left luckily i got 3 to come to another forum to get advice so they would atleast get answers to their question because obviously noone here is doing that. ANd that is not the point of this forum to go round and round on the same topic i think th moderator may be ending this post and i really hope she does. It needs to end and all the baching and fighting needs to end or there wont be an auspets much longer because noone will come here. so just stop. IP: Logged |
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Fluff/poofy unregistered |
posted 04-05-2003 05:43 PM
Firstly I am not bashing...nor calling any one a BYB...I am however stating...that if you are going to expect others to meet certain standards, which I know the people here do...then you should expect those standards to be met by your friends as well. So this means, if you don't want to be critisized, then you must not catergorize others, in the realm of BYB, commercial, etc. Breeding only once in a blue moon doesn't make you responsible. What you do as a breeder is what decides that. And how can you set the bar for others, if you can't reach it yourself. As for scaring off people. How many people do you think you have scared off when asking questions about breeding? studding out a dog? or any aspect of canine reproduction, by playing the twenty questions game of ethics with them when they ask? I bet far more then I have scared off by asking some one to meet the expectations they have set on others. IP: Logged |
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RottyMommy Member Posts: 88 |
posted 04-05-2003 07:21 PM
First off you dont know me or what i believe secondly i try to suggest other options for people and rarely get in someones face so to speak. So no I can guarantee you I have not scared off more people than you. It is not the fact that you sit here and want to know facts or whatever it is first off the fact that this post didnt even have anything to do with pitbull princess and than as soon as it started it wont end. I have just counted and 5 new people that were originaly on auspets have come to another forum that i am on and they are saying flat out how outrageous this all is that they come on this forum looking for advice and instead read a 70 person post of people bashing back and forth and it isnt just this post it is many others. Secondly you are not even a member to this forum so you probably dont give a rats behind on whether this forum gets shut down but when i first joined this forum people helped me alot but at this point I am sick of it and I am done. I cannot possibly help people when all this bashing is going on and due to that scaring people who actually are looking for help away. So you can all continue to go on bashing each other and turning this forum into a soap opera but I am sick of it and dont need to hear anymore. Dont bother responding because I wont be here. But do everyone a favor and grow up. The bs needs to end. Why dont you try helping people instead of criticizing them there is a difference ya know? IP: Logged |
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