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footsie
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From:Vancouver, WA USA
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posted 11-26-2003 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for footsie     Edit/Delete Message
Whenever my cat wants some attention he'll get on the counter and starts howling. I get up to take him down and he jumps off and hides as soon as I get half way across the room. Then, he'll watch me and as soon as I get settled sitting down, feet up, newspaper open, he's right back on the counter! He'll do it dozens of times in a row until I give up on the newspaper and play with him. Its like a game to him. Meanwhile, I haven't read the news (or a book or magazine or anything) in over a month!

If by chance I do get ahold of him while he's still on the counter he goes in the bathroom for a few minutes, which he hates.
For now I have the policy that he only gets shut in the bathroom if I take him directly off the counter. I wouldn't want him to think hes being punished for getting down.

What do people think? Should I chase him down when he jumps off and lock him up then too. I tried a squirt gun, but there's a inconvineintly placed wall between the livingroom and kitchen and he only does it when I'm in the livingroom.

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Caitlyn
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posted 11-26-2003 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caitlyn     Edit/Delete Message
Hi There

You dont say how old your cat is or how long he has been doing this behaviour. From experiance it is harder to break an older cat of a habit especially if he has been doing it for more than a month but if he is a young cat and just started to do it you have more chance.

I have found the best way to teach animals is by positive reward not by punishment. Though I do allow my cats on the kitchen work surfaces there is one food preparation area they are not allowed on. I initially started to take them down of the surface and when they were on the floor to reward them with a treat, always a treat on the floor never on the side. Also the surface is near their food bowls, so when I am dishing their tea up if they get on the side they must get down before they get fed. The repetition is a must though and you must always be consitent otherwise they don't learn.
They don't go on the worksurface at all now, we don't even get dirty paw marks from when we're not around.

The best way though is to train them from kittens, my mom's cat was simply told 'no' from when they first got him and he has never been on th side even when there was raw meat left out.

I don't like punishing animals especially because they don't really understand what they have done wrong plus you can build a negative attention seeking pattern. Where they do wrong just so you notice them, even if it is to shout at them. If you must punish him to stop doing it then a water bottle is probably best.

In the end a cat only starts new behaviour patterns because you encourage them, whether you do that consciously or subconsiously, maybe your cat just wants more of your time. Try playing with him and giving him more one on one attention, you might find he stops misbehaving all on his own.

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footsie
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posted 11-26-2003 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for footsie     Edit/Delete Message
You're right. I absolutly agree that Footsie is doing this as an attention getter. He knows its bad, thats why he always gets down right away. He also howls and meows and carries on when he is up there. Letting me know that hes there and its time to chase him down and making it impossible to just ignore him.

So, I guess the problem isn't just the coutners, it the whole attention seeking. He does get played with quite a bit (several hours a day), but if he had his way, every second from when I get home to when I go to bed would be spend dangling a feather on a stick. I can only do that for about an hour before I'm bored out of my mind. Since I've gotten him my TV watching has probably trippled because its the only thing I can do while playing with the cat at the same time.

Basically, Footsie demands much more attention than I've ever seen from a cat. I know I sound like I'm complaining, but honestly I would love for him to just take a nap sometime (I've never seen him sleep any place but on my lap. He sleeps while I'm in bed or at work, and rarely at all when I'm around) so I could read a book! Hes 6 months old, so I'm hoping he'll grow out of it. But in the mean time I'm going nuts.

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nern
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posted 11-26-2003 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
I think ignoring his little game would be the best way to get him to stop but I can imagine how annoying (and hard to ignore) it must be.

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Caitlyn
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posted 11-27-2003 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caitlyn     Edit/Delete Message
I have to agree with Nern on this one, ignoring him is the only way to deal with this I'm afraid. Negative attention seeking is pretty common in cats, my youngest used to be terrible between 5 and 10 months, he is still an alarm clock kitty we never managed to break him of that but he doesn't come and bite you and scratch to get you to play anymore. On the subject of keeping him amused though, we found hiding his food around the house helped keep him out of mischief and interested for hours. We never gave him a proper meal just put it in various different places everyday. You can also get balls that you put food in and as they push it around a treat falls out, they are mostly used for dogs but work for cats too!
I have to say I think he will grow out of it, tom cats can be quite handful at times even when neutered, if you don't have him done already I do suggest it, but certainly alot of his bounciness will be gone by the time he is three.

Good Luck

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tuttifrutti
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posted 11-28-2003 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuttifrutti     Edit/Delete Message
Ignoring may work, or, my friends had a cat that would get up on teh counters at night, so one night they covered the counter in poster board covered in a very sticky tape, and with a little pepper, and then the cat got up there. They had to come and cut a little fur off, but she hasn't been up on the counter since then!

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