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BarbP
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posted 07-29-2002 11:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I have a 16-year old neutered male tabby cat named Ari who has some health problems, and I am trying to decide what would be best. First, he has FIV -- he is a housecat exclusively and has been since he was about a year old, but a couple of times he has run out the door and been gone for an hour or two, and apparently he was bitten by an infected cat on one of these ventures. Also, this August, he was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism and has been on pills for that. During that same visit, the vet checked out a lump in Ari's neck, to the right side of his throat, and told me that this probably was a thyroid cancer. The vet said Ari was in no pain at that time but that operation to remove the cancer would be expensive and no guarantees he would even survive the operation at his age.

In October, Ari developed vomiting and diarrhea for some reason and after a day of this he was very weak and would not eat. The vet took a blood sample from the left side of Ari's neck for a chemical panel, and said that the main problem was that he was dehydrated. He weighed 4 lbs at that visit. Vet gave Ari an injection to help him rehydrate. I brought Ari home and changed his diet -- began feeding him pureed cooked chicken, mixed with baby food vegetables and/or cooked mashed rice, all watered down a lot to a very soupy consistency. He liked it and I'm still feeding him that twice a day, plus he is back to eating his regular cat food also. He has rehydrated and weight went up to just over 5 lbs in a month. Also, since this diet change his "poo" has firmed up properly for the first time in well over a year.

The lump in his neck is the size of a hen's egg by now. The vet still says "thyroid cancer". Ari's white cell count is not up, though. And he has a lot of energy also and jumps up on the countertops regularly and with no trouble. A couple of nights ago, he saw that I had moved his cat grass to another window and climbed right up there to get at it.

This lump in his neck is now pressing his windpipe to the left a bit. Starting about a week ago, he had sneezing and sniffles and his breathing a bit labored, so I got some antibiotic from the vet but the vet did not see Ari. The sniffles are clearing up, his breathing is still a bit labored but that doesn't seem to be bothering him.

I want the vet to evaluate Ari and consider again the idea of operating to remove that lump in his neck. It is a very firm lump, well defined, I can't tell if it has grown actually into the tissue of his throat. The vet has not biopsied this, he seemed to think he would need to sedate Ari to do a biopsy and said that this would not be good for Ari -- this was his opinion, anyhow, back when he first examined the lump in August. I don't see why a needle biopsy can't be done without sedation, since the vet took blood from the other side of Ari's neck without sedation, and the lump is just under the skin, not hard to get to.

I am thinking the lump might not be cancer, given that Ari has gained weight back, seems to have his normal energy, certainly has a good appetite, etc. Still, cancer or not, if it continues to grow it will choke him. It may already be starting to do that, as I can't tell for sure if his slightly labored breathing this week is from pressure of the lump on his throat or is due to congestion in his nasal passages. If he seemed to be having actual trouble breathing, I'd take him in to the vet of course, but he breathes okay and just makes "noise" when he does it.

I'd like to hear opinions -- am I hoping for too much? Does it sound like cancer when he has gained weight and has good energy levels? Should I risk the operation if the vet is willing to do it? Or should I plan instead to have Ari put to sleep soon? Right now he seems as content as ever, he enjoys stretching and being petted, eating, prowling around the house and all his usual things.

Sorry for length but I need to make decisions soon. Thanks for any thoughts.

BarbP

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Stephi
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posted 04-11-2003 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hey, I understand your pain and confusion. My cat is near 20 and is quickly going down hill. we're a bit different though...see I don't take him to the vet (and it's not because I don't care about him) or know what he has, I assume a multiple of things cuz of his age, but i'm NOT going to go to a vet and pay $40 for them to tell me what's wrong. It doesn't matter to me. He's an old cat and that's what happends, I don't need to pay someone just to do tests and diagnose things. Plus at that age there's nothing they can do (but pretend to do more tests and hope to fix problems-and make you feel guilty so that you keep coming back)..but anyway
To put him down, or to not put him down THAT is the question. People tell me to put my cat down, but it's too hard for me cuz I've had him since i was 5. But then again I don't want him to suffer...and if we have control over that? Plus it's hard to feel comfortable putting him down if he seems to be happy. MY ADVICE? no one can tell you what's the "right" thing to do. WE know our cats better than anyone else. If you find it necessary to put down your cat, then do it. But if he seems ok then don't let the vet try to scam some more money outta you. But don't be selfish and hold on to your cat if he IS suffering. I say, if you see these signs: can barely move/walk, change in personality, crying, sad face, etc etc then it's time to let go. Sad to say, this week I've begun to experience all this...i honestly can't recognize my cat anymore so i'm planning on taking him to the vet this weekend. It's gotten to the point where it's killing ME more than him. I don't want to remember my cat this way. and I know he know's what's up.
I wouldn't bother having the lump removed. Too much money and also a risk. FOrget it. He's too old. Plus who's to say that it's really affecting him. If you're not bs-ing yourself and your kitty seems to be happy and not in pain then let him be and enjoy the moment. Trust your gut & good luck.

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carrie
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posted 04-11-2003 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carrie   Click Here to Email carrie     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Barb,
It sounds as though Ari is content right now- I wouldn't put him through the stress and trauma of surgery. The "soup mixture" that you are feeding him sounds like a good idea- perhaps you can begin adding some helpful supplements and using a bit of raw chicken- which can be very helpful in boosting the immune system- there are several good books about this and much information on the internet. It is difficult for people in our society to fight the stream of logical thoughts about action and treatment- concerning conventional medicine- however, your intuition will NEVER let you down- do what you feel/know is right for Ari and all will work out well- even if "well" means letting go eventually. My thoughts are with you and Ari today.
Carrie
ps. I wrote a bit about FIV yesterday on one of the other posts- (I believe it was actually titled "FIV" you might want to take a look at that as well.

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woofdoggy
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posted 04-12-2003 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woofdoggy   Click Here to Email woofdoggy     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Barb,
First of all it's great to see how much love and care you have been giving Ari. Certainly vets' bills are no jokes, but when you love your pet some times there's no other choice.

Ari has had this lump since August you say, and it is growing. It may not be cancerous, you are right. I'm inclined to agree that if it was and he's had it for 7 months he would be a lot sicker than he is. But like you I don't know for sure.

As he is putting on weight, and contented, there is absolutely no need to even think of putting him to sleep. You only do that if an animal is suffering, and Ari is not by the sound of it.

But you do need more advice about the lump if it definitely beginning to affect his breathing (and are you sure it's the lump, or not some respiratory infection?).

If it were me with my kitty, I would get another vet's opinion. There are many honest vets out there who are not out to just make a quick buck. Take a list of all the questions you have, and ask him/her.
As far as surgery goes it can be a risk with an animal of any age, though admittedly more so when older.

If the vet says surgery is the only way to go, I would ask first what the chances of recovery are,and be clear in your mind about that and then weigh it all up. It's a very hard decision for you, I understand that, and it's painful to go through this.

Please let us know how it goes?


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