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honeybears Super Senior Member Plus

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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: for you who feed raw, question |
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Since my husband wont let me feed raw I have looking for alternatives and found this.
http://www.stevesrealfood.com/canine/fdbeef.html
they ahve both frozen and freeze dried food - I was looking at the freeze dried. By holy moly 40% protien and 29% fat - it doesn have recommend feeding guidelines, but I fed that to Jake who is #100 he would probably only get a Cup
And i heard high protein can be bad, but since this is kind of equivilant to raw what are your thoughts
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Jamiya Moderator

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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think that's a decent food. I started out feeding Nature's Variety frozen raw before I went totally raw. It was way too expensive, though - I just couldn't afford it every day.
You won't get any teeth cleaning benefits from raw patties like that, but it's got to be better than most kibbles. I don't really know how it compares to the premium kibbles.
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honeybears Super Senior Member Plus

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Jimiya, I just got back from my new dog bakery - I got Jake Wysong synorgon kibble. It is their allergy version They carry natures variety and breeders choice raw patties. I wonder how it would work if I incorporated soemthing like this a few times a week. I think Maisy does it but since she is MIA The brochure says the freeze dried is for when you travel.
check this out - this is a wysong kibble - but my place doenst carry it
they say it is a non-heated food that is 99% meat.
INGREDIENTS:
Beef, Beef Liver, Chicken, Chicken Liver, Ground Bone, Condensed Whey, Fish Oil, Calcite, Barley Grass Powder, Wheat Grass Powder, Dried Seaweed Meal, Artichoke
it only has 250 calories a cup which means jake would have to eat 6C and and Wouldnt be abel to affore that.
I wonder if you can mix it like a few tmes a week it it would beneficial?
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nern Moderator

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 5042 Location: NY
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: Re: for you who feed raw, question |
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I was looking at the freeze dried. By holy moly 40% protien and 29% fat - it doesn have recommend feeding guidelines, but I fed that to Jake who is #100 he would probably only get a Cup
And i heard high protein can be bad, but since this is kind of equivilant to raw what are your thoughts
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The freeze dried and the frozen Steve's foods are the same the only difference is the moisture content. Because it only has 3% moisture, the freeze dried formulas appear to be extremely high in protein compared to foods with more moisture. The freeze dried and the frozen have the same amount of protein but the moisture content makes it seem very different. On a dry matter basis both formulas have 41% protein which is similar to the dry matter protein found in many canned foods.
The frozen raw has:
Protein:10% minimum
Fat:7% minimum
Fiber: 1% maximum
Moisture: 76% minimum
The feeding guidelines can be found on their website here: http://www.stevesrealfood.com/canine/feed_dog.html |
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nern Moderator

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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if you can mix it like a few tmes a week it it would beneficial?
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I think it would. I have recently been considering supplementing with some frozen raw or freeze dried as well. In the Wysong literature it states that Archetype can be used in combination with Wysong canned and dry diets, supplements and fresh foods.
On a side note...Natalie & my cats loved the Archetype when it was dry but refused to eat it rehydrated. Natalie did'nt care for Steves freeze dried but Sebastian loved it. Natalie loved the Nature's Variety frozen raw. |
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Shady_Babygurl Member

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honeybears Super Senior Member Plus

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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for all of the info. For now I am going to try the wysong synorgon and he just went on the Nzymes yeast treatment last week which I want him to get adjusted to and this new food and Nyzymes before I try supplementing. I think I may try the pattys, - it depends if I convince my husband, if not I will try the archetype.
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