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Samsintentions
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Breeders ~ Oppinions Reply with quote

I was brousing some sites, just to see what's out there, who's breeding what lines, ext..... I found some sites that are questionable. Tell me what you think.

http://raiders1mikeromeo.tripod.com/grandjeepkenneles/index.html
This one I found that the dogs look nice! but some of the photos bothered me. One, the chains they use on some of the dogs look HUGE!! doesn't that constitute neck problems? ANd the photo with the guy holding the dog next to another dogs kennel, labled "play time". Those dogs look like they are fixing to tear into each other.....just didn't give me the right feeling about them. They didn't have any info on them either....


http://www.pitbullbreeder.net/
The most exotic??? "We've been breeding for over 15 years. That makes us Professionals." I highly disagree with this statement. Even someone thats been breeding over 30 years, doesn't mean they are doing it right, know everything.....SOme very nice looking dogs, but no info.....and what have their dogs done to prove themselves?? Other than color?


http://www.victorinoskennel.com/
If I ever get a pit, it will come from these people. OMG> I've never seen a more beautiful dog!! Rebel JO is awsom!!!!
They look like they have their stuff together, obviously very family oriented and work together. IMO this is how a breeder should be.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.pitbullbreeder.net/
omg i have never seen pits those colors before...
its so weird and different
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angie wrote:
http://www.pitbullbreeder.net/
omg i have never seen pits those colors before...
its so weird and different


There's a good reason you haven't seen them in this color before - APBTs do not come merle. Also, responsible breeders wouldn't breed merle dogs (who are supposedly not possibly pure anyway - I say supposedly because I've not done enough research on it to know). There are many health problems associated with merles. For that matter, reponsible breeders wouldn't breed specifically for any color. They are after people's money - plain and simple.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah those 1st two are bybs. Merles...lol, dont stay away from them.

Victorino's is a good kennel/breeder. I've sent a few people there, they're reputable and responsible breeders.

This is also another really good one
http://www.coldsteelpits.com/coldsteelmainpage.htm

This one looked okay to
http://www.flashfirekennel.com/index.html


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's a good reason you haven't seen them in this color before - APBTs do not come merle.


Thats what I always thought but I wasn't positive so I didn't want to make that statement without researching it first. I never saw that color before even though I have heard of it. Thats sad that people still breed them even though they have health problems.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinaH's dog, Bluebell, is really what I want. That is an awsome dog!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GinaH's dog, Bluebell, is really what I want. That is an awsome dog!!!


Awwww Thanks Sams and Angie. She is an awesome dog and the sweetest thing! She brought me a dead mole this morning she came running in after my husband let her out to potty and evidently she caught a mole killed it then brought it in to me and dropped it on my pillow while I was still sleeping....Ughhhhhhhh! I just about Puked when I woke up and saw it but the jester was so sweet.

Bluebelle~APBT
http://www.dogster.com/?75640

Punkin~APBT
http://www.dogster.com/?75639

Fancy~Pekingese
http://www.dogster.com/?75637

Pinky~APBT
http://www.dogster.com/?75636

Molly~Kitty Cat
http://www.catster.com/?78238

Marigold~Kitty Cat
http://www.catster.com/?79701
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at that smile!! Who's is bigger BlueBells or her sons????!!!




She's just an awsome looking dog. I believe Gina is trying to show her?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were to buy an APBT I would buy one of this females get.



This is a WhizBang dog.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya Whizbang got some awesome dogs, I tried to get my friend to get one from them.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure about blue Merles? I was on a site the other day and it seems that alot of breeders are striving to get that colour. Personally the puppy I seen on that site looked like half Aussie Blue Cattle!!! Smile Still cute though.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neek wrote:
Are you sure about blue Merles? I was on a site the other day and it seems that alot of breeders are striving to get that colour. Personally the puppy I seen on that site looked like half Aussie Blue Cattle!!! Smile Still cute though.


From what I understand, merle of any color (blue, red, etc) is not a natural APBT color, and is only made possible by introducing another breed into one's breeding program. I believe merles often are plauged by many of the same problems as albinos, such as deafness, blindness, immune deficiencies, etc. Just because many breeders strive for this color does not mean they are breeding to breed standard, and definitely does not mean they are concerned with their dogs' health. They are striving for this color because it is *rare* (in other words no responsible breeder breeds them and the general public is ignorant to the reason why) and therefore they can make more money off the pups. Money is their only motivation.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I told my friend about it and she said that in a book she read that Pit Bulls come in all various colors.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats the wizbang site??? I would like to see it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a site i found informative about the merle pattern in apbt's.

http://www.apbtconformation.com/merle.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you sure about blue Merles? I was on a site the other day and it seems that alot of breeders are striving to get that colour. Personally the puppy I seen on that site looked like half Aussie Blue Cattle!!! Still cute though.


I myself am sure because NO responsible breeder breed/strive for a certain color. They strive to produce a dog as close to the standard as possible with a true temperament and great health. I think blue merles are prone to the most health problems, not saying the other variations aren't. The color was introduced by breeding them with Catahoulas.

Lots of breeders strive for blue, red, pure white, albino, size, aggression, amoung other stupid traits, that doesn't make it a good thing. It makes them irresponsible and usually after something "rare" to peddle or something they like.

Whiz Bang Kennels
http://www.whizbangkennel.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoW!!! Love the dogs...
The cream with chocolate brindling is an intresting mixture. Is that common?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one site, I hope the link works! Blue merle pitbull pup.
www.americanpitbullregistry.com/pitbullpictures.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is one site, I hope the link works! Blue merle pitbull pup.
www.americanpitbullregistry.com/pitbullpictures.htm


Well yeah that the APBR site, so its like "bybs are us". They have a whole page with merles. Don't forget their most rediculous color. The "moo moo pattern" lmao
http://www.americanpitbullregistry.com/moo%20moo%20patterend%20pitbull%20pictures.htm
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