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Jameka
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 Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject: Online auctions selling PIT BULLS!!! |
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Supported by none other than the peddlers of ******* & ******* Kennels!! No one has the slightest idea who may be bidding on these pups and thats how they end up in the wrong hands!. These dogs are sold to anyone with top bid!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:11 am Post subject: |
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I do agree that it is stupid to put a dog up for auction but then again the bid started out at $1500 so I can't see someone paying that much for a dog just to mistreat it.
That listing is also the only listing on the whole website if you look under description it takes you to the catergories and that is the only auction listed. Anyhow selling an animal in an auction besides livestock auctions in my opinion is just dumb. |
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Jas
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:15 am Post subject: |
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MODERATOR EDIT ******I have removed the links and names posted above. Responsible breeders/owners do not auction off their dogs. Auspet does not support the auctioning of dogs. We'd rather this information not be posted here. As this is like free advertising for any ignorant or unscrupulous buyer reading with interest - your statement below is exactly why!
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| No one has the slightest idea who may be bidding on these pups and thats how they end up in the wrong hands! |
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True_Pits
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Meka wasn't supporting them at all. She was showing the sick reality of the dogs, sold to make money as property and a monye making tool. But I understand what you mean, some one might happen along and decide to get a dog from them.
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| but then again the bid started out at $1500 so I can't see someone paying that much for a dog just to mistreat it. |
Then you have a lot to learn. I'll see if Meka won't post about the people she knows owning the blue female, registered, good conformation that they paid $1000 for just to mistreat and bred to a freaking LAB on purpose if I remember right and bred to some other mutt.
Lots of people who mistreat dogs pay a lot, many people like to brag about a dogs prices even if it is a crappy dog, nothing special, not a good ped, lacks conformation, bad temp, ect. These breeders know this, so they will breed anything and everything to full these people and catter to those looking for an ego trip wth an expensive dog. Anyway here is a previous post I made on the subject.
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I in no way intent to start a heated arguement over this topic. I simply created this thread to enlightent a few people about the common misconception of high priced dogs. Or should I say over priced. A lot of people believe an expensive dog will be taken care of because it cost so much. This isn't always true. The large, misconformed, bred for size and color dogs are becoming a huge fad and they are being overbred and overpriced because people will pay to have the most exotic or cool "object" to boost their ego and image. Part of the fad is becoming to actually a pay a very large amount of money for the dog, so the individual can boast about the cost of the dog.
In a qoute by HOPS "NOBODY IS FORCED TO BUY THESE DOGS.AND I APPRECIATE PEOPLE SELLING THERE DOGS FOR $1000 TO $5000.KEEPS THEM OUT OF EVERY BODYS HANDS.NOBODY GOING TO A DOG THEY SPENT $5000 OUTSIDE ON THE CHAIN,OR IN A RUN IN THERE ON POOP.ALL DAY LONG."
Selling a dog doesn't keep them out of the wrong peoples hands. Say irresponsible, neglectful and abusive hands. This is my strong feeling and I know it to be a fact because I have seen it first hand. One major thing is INCOME TAX, everyone is familiar with income tax and believe it or not some people use it to buy a dog that they have no intentions of taking care of.
This little story is the truth about this guy and I'm not sure where he got the money from the first time, but he bought a UKC registered, blue fawn, Pit Bull for $1500. He would leave the dog outside, he did have a fenced in yard, but the dog always excaped. It wasn't aggressive to dogs or people but would still jump on kids and scare people. So he had animal control called on him and even paid fines but still didnt confine his dog. The dog was picked up and he didn't go into claim it (within 5 days) so it was put down. Which he did get screwed but I don't feel sorry because he was irresponsible. He got screwed because the dog was a pit. If it isn't claimed in 5 days it either detroyed, the only way it can be adopted out is if someone from out of town comes in to adopt it. Which is BS. So you have to life outside city limits or another town and 5 days isn't a long time. Okay anyway back on topic. Now this is the crazy part, he was upset, upset because his dumb dog got out again and killed and now he just wasted a good $1500. Soon I suppose he will be happy again, because he has a girlfriend who is buying him a new dog with her income tax. This time a female because he said dogs are good money and he can breed his own. That way he never has to worry about buying another dog and will always have extra money. Those are his words not mine.
He's not the only one. With the income tax idea my neighbor has had pits for awhile. They are just inexpensive, backyard bred dogs. But now when the income tax comes about $2000 is going to buy either a "good looking pit" red nose with a big head/chest or a recent idea they had was buying a Canary Dog or something along those lines because they are rare and can sell for more, because they want to breed their dog. They have always been interested in breeding but thank god they haven't turned their dogs into breeding machines....yet. Did have an accidental though. One of the dogs went to the same whack job type person. They are Pit mixes but he swears his is the baddest and just needs a big, huge, muscular male to breed her to and get some bad pups. Which he's already planning on selling as pure. And been looking for papers to hang them with. I only met/talked to him once when they introduced me to the guy but he is a loon and knows nothing about breeding. He wanted to buy a male pup of mine, even with the high price tag, but that wasn't happening!!
The time when my mom's aunt's St Bernard was hit by a car. The dog she payed $3000 for and was so proud of. The dog wasn't really that great and had aggression problems. She never did anything with him but show him off. Lived in almost the country to let him run loose, their are dangers in the country, even being hit by car. Let alone not really being out there, just having some land around your place. I can't really say she was too heartbroke over the matter. Her pocket book was I assume but then again she always seemed to have money and replaced him soon after.
There are lots of people buying over priced dogs and not taking care of them. It seems a lot of people value money but at the same time waste it. A good friend of my mom came into some money. Not a lot but a couple grand I believe. They went and wasted it. bought the biggest TV they could and VHS/DVD combo. That may not sound all that bad. They get some money and buy a luxery they could normally not afford. Well it lasted less than a month. Her son damaged the screen some, kids do that I guess, but then her husband totally detroyed it in one of his rages. There is their $2000 down the drain. On top of that they are in debt and close to having there care repossesed when they got the money. Instead of paying off bills or saving their car (which gets them to work) they basically wasted it. Not sayin its WRONG to spend on things you want if you get a chunk of money but use your common sense. Had they wanted one of those over priced dogs thats what they would have spent on it and I'm sure it would have ended up as their other dogs. Dumped off, pregnent, and physically abused by the husband. Most kids these days are the same way, of course they are spending their parents money and wasting it. Loosing/breaking expensive objects because they can always get another. Even when they become adults their spending habits will be the same, they'll waste the money to get a better, sprortier care then their neighbor, or a bigger, badder dog that can make them look cool and intimidate people, ect.
Some of the most expensive dogs I know sit on a chain, most of the yards are cleaned regulary, but not all of the ones I have seen. So yeah maybe they step in their poop, thats just the personal way the person keeps their kennel. I prefer mine feces free and to promote the cleaniest outdoor environment possible. The people with some of these dogs actually purchased the dogs from $4,000 to even $8,000, they sit out on chains unless they are being bred or something like that. The difference is the dog is bred, the pups are kept for themselves and others they trust with the dogs. Some of the pups are sold. Now these were highpriced, expensive dogs but NOT overpriced because the dog is worth it. There is a difference and even if the price is the same $2,000. The difference is the BREEDER. Having high price pups doesn't mean the dogs are quality, or worth that amount and are going to be in good hands. The breeder could just be a peddler, selling expensive poorly bred dogs to anyone with the money. Then there are the breeders who put their all into the dogs and sell their dogs to the RIGHT kind of homes at the same price you get a quality dog that is worth yout $2,000. These breeders screen homes/buyers while the others just take the cash and move to the next costumer. They only care about the buck. One of their most used comments is your just jealous because I can sell my dogs for $1500. Some of these people don't know the person they are talking to. How do they know what the other breeder can sell their for, or has sold theirs for? Its all a money game to them. Well breeding isn't about selling pups for high prices. Its to breed for your line to have feature dog to continue your line of dogs that should represent the breed and have a correct temperment and health. Even when/if the other breeder sells an expensive dog its to a good home, and its occasionally not every puppy in there several litters. Thats just my opinion and some of my personal experience although I know more people who have paid a good price just didn't care for the dogs. |
I have an update to add to this, the neighbor who was looking for the big red nose or Canary dog went the way of Cane Corso. This is a very scarey situation. Their income tax came they got the dog. Well I went to see it and this dog is a freak. It is so scared of everything, it constantly cowers and has its tail tucked, it wont walk, it has to be drug out of its kennel crate. She said the "breeder" told her that these dogs are like that, they don't like strangers and she is a stranger, they are naturally scared of people and it makes them protective or some bulls*** like that. I've never seen a dog so scared in my life. The most scariest thing is she has her dogs to be mean "guard dogs" and this dog already has extreme fear and I'm scared it will attack one of the children one day. This dog isn't right, no 3 month old pup should be scared and are not very protective by that age. I can't believe she paid that money and bought into it from some idiot telling her Corsos are naturally like that. On top of that I know it will be like her others, abused, neglected, probably made aggressive, of course I'm sure it will already have fear aggression. Ok I should stop ranting about this, I had put it out of my mind until this price then resurfaced and I thought of it. |
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Jas
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Meka wasn't supporting them at all. She was showing the sick reality of the dogs, sold to make money as property and a monye making tool. But I understand what you mean, some one might happen along and decide to get a dog from them.
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 thanks TruePits, I know she wasn't supporting them, it is fine to express how we feel about these auctions but it is better not to give them further exposure (you know how it goes). |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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True Pits I was not in anyway implying I thought auctioning off a dog regardless of price was Ok.
I would never personally pay that much for a dog and I have never really known anyone who had so it just seemed to me if anyone would be willing to pay that much for a dog that they might take care of it.
I don't know everything, like most people on this forum. I guess I do have a lot learn.
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Then you have a lot to learn. I'll see if Meka won't post about the people she knows owning the blue female, registered, good conformation that they paid $1000 for just to mistreat and bred to a freaking LAB on purpose if I remember right and bred to some other mutt.
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Jameka
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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0Thank you True_Pits. No, I do not support these people. I think it is a disgrace to sell a dog, or any other type of animal at an online auction site.
Here is the story about the blue Pit.
She is about 18 months old now. She is solid blue with a redish tint when the sun hits her. She has PERFECT conformation. She weighs about 45 lbs & is very proportionate. She is the most gorgeous blue Pit I have ever seen. She is just put together so beautifully. If I remember correctly, her ped. has quite a few CH & GR CH in it, & I believe that her parents were both working on being pointed. Anyway, these people bought her as a pup, at about 10 weeks old. They paid $1000 for her. She is dual registered PR. They paid $250 & knowingly took her to a crappy vet, who had never cropped a Pits ears. He had only cropped Dobes & Great Danes. The vet messed up & did a Dobe crop. Her ears were so long, that they took her to another vet, paid another $200, & had her recropped. When this pup was about 6 months old, she came into heat for the first time. The owners had her in the car & were driving around. They passed a house with a huge black lab out in the yard. They went back & talked to the owners of the Lab. They found out that the 100 lb. Lab was registered, so they made an arrangement with the Lab owners & they bred this tiny little 6 month old female to this freaking Lab. There were a few problems when she was delivering pups, & she was taken to the vet. There were a total of 9 pups, all of which were given away free to a good home. On her second heat, at about a year old, she was bred again. This time to a registered Border Collie. Again, all of the pups were given away free to a good home. The last time I saw them, about a month & a half, or 2 months ago, they had taken her to have her tail docked. She had a huge gash in her neck, where they chained her up outside & left her collar on too tight. She used to run free in their tiny yard, on a main road. She always wandered off, & one night was hit by a car. She had to have pens put in her leg & now she walks with a bad limp. They were talking about breeding her again, on her next heat, which should be soon, but they couldn't decide what breed to use this time.......... No matter how much talking & begging I did, they would not listen. They didn't see a problem with breeding her so young, so often, or to other breeds. They didn't see a problem with giving the pups away, not having the mother DNA & OFA tested, they didn't see a problem with leaving her chained up & her collar on too tight.
They paid $1000 for that dog, & they ruined her. They abused her, they mistreated her, they bred her to other breeds & produced a bunch of mutts. There is no doubt in my mind that this dog could have earned major points, if they would've just done something with her. Price doesn't matter. They just wanted a dog that they could say they paid a lot of $ for. They wanted a Pit, simply so they could say they had one.
I guess my point is this: No matter where a dog comes from, no matter how much you pay for it, no matter how perfect it is, if the people that buy it want to mistreat it, or ruin it, they will. |
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