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need pacu help bad!!!!!


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willieb18
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do i need anything to take the chloramine out of my water? i have not put anything in my water besides some stuff to lower stress
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know how much money you guys make but i dont have enough money to buy a 1400 dollar fish tank for a pauc that's just plan stupid i can buy a freaking car for that price..............
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t_chelle16
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, oscars simply are not meant to properly digest fish. Plus any fish like store bought feeders or bait fish are generally kept in very crowded dirty conditions so there's a strong possibility that they have diseases.

Yes, you need something that will remove chlorine & chloramine. The stuff you use to lower stress, is it called Stress Coat? If it is, then it will reamove chloramine & chlorine. If it's not Stress Coat, the bottle should say if it removes anything.

jay29617, if you can't afford a tank to properly house a certain fish, then you shouldn't keep that fish. If you try to keep a fish in a tank that is too small, it will suffer and die prematurely. Do you already have a pacu?

-Chelle
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is called stress zyme... it saies that it "speeds the development of the biological filter to eliminate ammonia and nitrite. but i am going to take my pacu back to the fish store tomorrow. i called them and told them i couldnt take care of it so they are going to take it back. so i am going to start over. i need all the information to start off with a good clean healthy tank. thanks
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t_chelle16
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My suggestion is to first read this article:
http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cycle2.html

Then replace all the water, clean out your filter, and basically start from scratch doing a fishless cycle as outlined in that article.

-Chelle
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willieb18
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i read that artical and didnt understand it. i just need steps to follow.
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t_chelle16
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a good discussion on fishless cycling (complete with steps & more indepth explainations) in another forum.

http://forums.fishindex.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7387

-Chelle
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willieb18
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got rid of my oacu today. the guy at the store told me that my tank should be cycled. so all i need to do is get something to take the chlorine out of my tap water right? he also showed me some stuff that i can get to bring down the ammonia. what do you think i should do??
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t_chelle16
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, your tank is NOT cycled. You never cycled it before adding the pacu. After you added the fish, it started to cycle but never finished. If it had been cycled, you shouldn't have any ammonia in there at all.

If you add somthing to remove the ammonia, you will be starving and killing your bacteria and the tank definitely won't be cycled then.

I suggest you forget everything that guy at the LFS has told you, drain the tank, be patient, and start all over again with the fishless cycle.

-Chelle
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catgrl8888
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beware of what the people at wall mart tell you. My sister got a red bellied pacu from wall mart and tthe guy told her the fish was a "non meat eatig fish". she had no idea if this was true or not so she called me a asked, boy that was a good laugh! And pacu grow very fast so watch out. Hers went from a little 3 incher to a 6 inch fish in about 2-3 months. sadly he died before he got to his full size, his tank collapsed in the middle of the night! He had to be housed in a 15 gal. tank for two days. We had nothing else to put him in. finally got him in a new tank and his tank mate, the oscar pushed him out. He died on her living room floor. The oscar died two weeks later from some unknown cause. I think she had a stomach viruse or she ate a bad feeder fish.

Anyway good luck with your pacu! Hope your's does better than my sisters!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i still have some guppys in there will it cycle with thme in there? i was just going to keep them untill i got another fish.
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t_chelle16
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

willieb18 wrote:
i still have some guppys in there will it cycle with thme in there? i was just going to keep them untill i got another fish.


No. Guppies will only produce a tiny fraction of the bioload as an oscar would. You would only get bacteria colonies sufficient to handle the amount of ammoni produced by the guppies. Then when you added the oscar, there would be a relatively huge increase in the amount of ammonia. The bacteria won't be able to handle it and you'll have high ammonia like you did with the pacu.

And if you try to do a fishless cycle with the guppies still in the tank, they will die because you have to add 5ppm ammonia. If you don't have another tank for the guppies, I would just see if the LFS will take the guppies. They wouldn't be able to stay in the tank with the oscar anyway.

-Chelle
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: See this site for all sorts of pacu help Reply with quote

http://www.postring.net/pacu/
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